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TheOne
05-17-2009, 11:28 AM
Hi everyone, I'm still a relatively new member here on calguns. I'm in the market for a dedicated .40 and I am leaning towards the H&K USP. I was wondering for those H&K fanatics or anyone who has fired both guns side by side what your opinions are and any note worthy differences are.

I called around today and at one store the P2000 was more expensive then the USP. I will have someone most likely get me the gun either way through a LEO discount as family, not a LEO purchase and transfer. Thanks for your help either way.

Alvin

Dangerous1
05-17-2009, 1:12 PM
Ergo's are totally up to your preference.

HK USP V1 is DA/SA with a decocker and a safety. approx. 11.5lb and 4.5lb pull
HK P2000 V3 is a DA/SA with a decocker and no safety. approx. 11.5lb and 4.5lb pull

HK P2000 V2 is a LEM. approx. 7.5lb pull

The USP V1 can be carried "cocked and locked" like a 1911 ie round in the chamber, hammer back in SA mode, with safety on, which makes this a popular option for 1911 type guys.

Ishoot
05-17-2009, 1:21 PM
I have the P2000 LEM in 9mm and the trigger makes the gun for me. Consistent pull with the ambi slide and magazine release is great. I like the USP also but just prefer the P2000. JMHO

MontClaire
05-17-2009, 1:41 PM
P 2000 was made for duty and conceal/unconceal carry. it has tapered barrel slide for better interaction with holster and if you can get V3 variant-it'll have the safety hammer release button on the back of the pistol as oppose to the side in USP. both are excellent handguns in their category. I've shot both and purchased P2000. I like the way that you can see it decoked and have an ability to disengage. At the same time I like the accessories rail on the lower frame where you can attach light/laser or both if you get TLR2. Both guns shoot with the same characteristics and accuracy.
hope it helps.

Boo_Radley
05-17-2009, 3:12 PM
Although you may have already had your questions answered by the thoughtful responses above, another good resource for you is HKPro.com, where this topic has been rehashed ad nauseum. A quick search there will give you hours of reading on the topic.

By the way, if you are looking for a compact, perhaps you should compare the P2000 to the USPc, instead of the full-size, or USPf.

P.S. I love my P2000v3

Dangerous1
05-17-2009, 4:36 PM
Boo Radley - I agree. Except that versions not listed on the DOJ, though referred to by members on HKPro, may add confusion.

Haplo
05-17-2009, 10:09 PM
P2000 is great, but I like the P2000SK LEM the most. You can use a larger magazine with an xgrip grip extension if you want, and may be more comfortable to hold.

Rivers
05-18-2009, 8:49 AM
I have the USP .45 fullsize and the P2000sk subcompact .40. I got the P2000sk with the LEM trigger and the USP in DA/SA. I like the LEM so much that I had the lighter trigger springs installed in the P2000 for a 4.5-5# pull, and had the .45 converted by HK to the same light LEM trigger. Granted that it may take some getting used to the LEM trigger but once you do, it's awesome. While I like both chassis, I think I'd go with the P2000 since the rail is the industry standard Picatanny. The USP requires a converting rail to make it so. My understanding of the two from someone who would actually know the difference internally is that the P2000 is a later evolution with many subtle technical improvements over the USP. Both are great guns so you won't go wrong either way.

The comment about the P2000sk and using the X-Grip is correct. This combo makes the subcompact grip identical to the fullsize P2000 and the USPc. Only the shorter barrel length and sight radius are different from the regular P2000. Makes a difference if you ever expect to CCW it. Still amazingly accurate even with the shorter sight radius!

CaliGunOwner
05-18-2009, 11:55 AM
I like the recoil system of the fullsize USP

trinydex
05-19-2009, 1:07 PM
p2k has an ambi slide release and the universal light rail, not the hk proprietary rail. this is the winner.

Palindari
05-19-2009, 1:29 PM
Interesting reading...

Seriously considering getting the P2000 subcompact to replace my Beretta 9000s .40SW

Exiledviking
05-19-2009, 7:07 PM
Get your hands on both and see which one fits you better. I know that for me there are very few pistols that can hold a candle to the P2000.