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mcat707
05-16-2009, 11:12 PM
I have been buying 22lr brick packs at many different WalMarts for over 12 years and just the other day I stumbled upon this new brick pack that I have never seen sold at any WalMart. Some of you may have, but its the first time for me so I grabbed the last two boxes sitting in the display case.

Federal .22lr LIGHTNING 40gr Lubricated Lead, 500rds for $14.47 each

Cant wait to try them out.


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Now here is the small collection of currently released brick packs that I have from WalMart. I know, I know....Im missing the Winchester 333 and Winchester Xpert HV. Hopefully I will get my hands on those also.


If you got some brick packs from WalMart not shown in this thread, please post them up and let us know what WalMart you got them from. It would be nice to see what other WalMarts have to offer (if they are in stock). Some WalMart sporting goods department cashiers have never even heard of or seen the Federal Target Grade bricks or the Winchester 333/Xpert. So maybe some stores are getting exclusive brands of bricks?



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Frijolito1988
05-16-2009, 11:17 PM
whats the diffrence with that lightning rounds ?

mcat707
05-16-2009, 11:23 PM
whats the diffrence with that lightning rounds ?

I havnt shot any of these yet, but I cant wait to find out.

Also they are lubricated lead. The other Federal bricks are not.

mvpatriot
05-16-2009, 11:26 PM
Hmmmm.... Very interesting...
I haven't seen the lightning type here at the 2 Corona WWs,
but as recently as today picked up 6 boxes of the regular Federal bulk there.

old-trapper
05-16-2009, 11:28 PM
you can tell from the picture and the box...the "lightning" are lubed lead not plated bullets hence the cheaper price

bohoki
05-17-2009, 12:26 AM
i havent seen fed lightning for years the last place i saw it was from big5

ck867
05-17-2009, 12:38 AM
you can tell from the picture and the box...the "lightning" are lubed lead not plated bullets hence the cheaper price

cheaper price? They are more expensive then the 550 federal red bulk pack

ErikTheRed
05-17-2009, 1:54 AM
I'm guessing those are the same bullets as Federal Champion, different box.

Clinton
05-17-2009, 9:49 AM
I'm guessing those are the same bullets as Federal Champion, different box.


Yeah, I don't see any difference either. I need to get a box of these to compare.

Conversekidz
05-17-2009, 10:41 AM
Is the lightning a 714 round or the 510 round?

mcat707
05-17-2009, 6:07 PM
Is the lightning a 714 round or the 510 round?

What do you mean? How many rounds per a brick? Comes with 500rds with this brick.

PolishMike
05-17-2009, 6:09 PM
edition? really?

Black_Talon
05-17-2009, 6:10 PM
What do you mean? How many rounds per a brick? Comes with 500rds with this brick.

He means "what is the Federal part number of this new ammo". I'd be interested in knowing the answer to that as well.

hybridatsun350
05-17-2009, 6:19 PM
Did you mean "addition" in your thread title?

mcat707
05-17-2009, 6:24 PM
Did you mean "addition" in your thread title?

you are correct sir :thumbsup:. Title has been edited

mcat707
05-17-2009, 6:25 PM
He means "what is the Federal part number of this new ammo". I'd be interested in knowing the answer to that as well.

Part number looks to be 510B

Geoman
05-17-2009, 10:35 PM
I bought a brick of Federal Lightning back in 1995. I date the ammo I buy for storage, I still have it.
Geoman

slik556
05-17-2009, 11:03 PM
One difference between the lightning and the 550bulk packs is the 550's are 36grn and the lightning's are 40grn.

high_revs
05-17-2009, 11:22 PM
so how does lubing the lead result in performance? because the automatch is also 40grain. i did notice the 40 grain auto match has slightly more kick into it over the 36 grain.

but there is the significant difference in price of course, since you get 225 less of the federal bulk 36 grain over the 40 grain automatch. Now you can you get the same grain with lightening version as the automatch.

so that would be the difference in performance between lightning and automatch? cuz they're same price with the latter being 150 rounds less.

NineteenElev3n
05-18-2009, 12:40 AM
One difference between the lightning and the 550bulk packs is the 550's are 36grn and the lightning's are 40grn.

Unless the lightning packs say they are hollow point, then I guess that would be the difference between the value 550 pack versus the lightning 500-pack. :shrug:

DRM6000
05-18-2009, 12:46 AM
looks like new packaging for the lightnings. iirc, the older packaging was a simple looking red and black box. the last time i bought some was in 2002 or something.

mcat707
05-18-2009, 6:46 AM
Unless the lightning packs say they are hollow point, then I guess that would be the difference between the value 550 pack versus the lightning 500-pack. :shrug:

1911, you are correct. The Lightning rounds are round nose and are not hollow points. I compared the Lightning rounds to the Target Grades and they are almost alike except that the Lightnings have a glossy coating over the bullet (lubricated lead).

xibunkrlilkidsx
05-18-2009, 7:42 AM
i just wish i could find 22lr ammo.

high_revs
05-18-2009, 7:50 AM
mcat707,
so is lubricated lead a bad thing in terms of performance? did you see larger or same groupings compared to the 40grain federal automatch?

mcat707
05-19-2009, 7:29 AM
mcat707,
so is lubricated lead a bad thing in terms of performance? did you see larger or same groupings compared to the 40grain federal automatch?

I have not had the chance to shoot the Lightnings as of yet but as far as using lubricated lead with a drop in performance compared to the non-lubricated (AutoMatch)?

I wouldnt think so, but someone who has experience with lubricated lead can possibly chime in here?

Jpach
05-29-2009, 2:34 PM
Are you willing to trade Remington GB round nose .22lr for Remington GB hollow point .22lr?

A'sDad
05-29-2009, 3:43 PM
I picked up a couple of the Federal 550 bulk pack at my local Walmart on Thursday morning. $14.99 each. They had 20 boxes (Two 10 box cases).
Happened to go back to get something with my wife later that day and all were gone. Interesting to see a box of ammo you know someone paid $15 dollars for listed on sites like this for $30-$40 dollars!

Arteel
05-29-2009, 4:02 PM
Ridiculous, I know.

I picked up a couple of the Federal 550 bulk pack at my local Walmart on Thursday morning. $14.99 each. They had 20 boxes (Two 10 box cases).
Happened to go back to get something with my wife later that day and all were gone. Interesting to see a box of ammo you know someone paid $15 dollars for listed on sites like this for $30-$40 dollars!

fusionstar
05-29-2009, 5:33 PM
I never liked the 550 bulk packs. shoots good but is not very consistent at 4" at 50 yards. I wouldnt pay the gouging price of 30-40 bucks for a box.. especially when I can get CCI Blazer or federal 510 and american eagle 40gr which I get 1" groups or smaller at 50 yards for half of that.. If the part number for those lightnings are correct.. they could be CCI blazer/Federal 510/American Eagle 40gr's that didnt meet those specs but is still fine to shoot.

But those are not lubed so I wouldnt know.

8bflylow
05-29-2009, 6:22 PM
i just wish i could find 22lr ammo.

srsly!




FWIW Ive had bad luck with the federal lightning ammo. It would not cycle my 10/22 properly. out of 1100 rounds almost 2 out of every 10 shots would not cycle my bolt completely and a shell would jam inside.

After that experience i never purchased the federal .22 550 bulk from walmart again.

GTR645
05-29-2009, 7:06 PM
i just wish i could find 22lr ammo.

What range do you usually go to in SD? I might be able to sell you a pack of American Eagle.

sb_pete
05-29-2009, 10:07 PM
mcat707,
so is lubricated lead a bad thing in terms of performance? did you see larger or same groupings compared to the 40grain federal automatch?

Most subsonic match ammo is lubricated lead 40gr. Far from being a problem, it is the preferred ammo for accuracy. That said, non-jacketed ammo does "lead up" the barrel and require more cleaning.

The big advantage of this stuff as far as I can tell is that you don't have to worry about transitioning from cheapo bulk pack to match subsonic. Most bulk pack is jacketed. Copper fouling in the barrel will decrease the accuracy you can achieve with lubricated lead subsonic match ammo. This means you need to reset your sights (for 40gr vs 36gr) and clean your bbl before switching between fed bulk pack and match ammo normally. With this stuff, you can enjoy the wonderful cheapness of bulk pack and seamlessly fire off a box of match ammo when you feel like it.

I want some!
-Pete

oso grande
05-29-2009, 10:55 PM
you can tell from the picture and the box...the "lightning" are lubed lead not plated bullets hence the cheaper price

I thought all 22 long rifles were lubed lead.

retired
05-30-2009, 10:03 PM
I can very rarely find .22 ammo bricks at Walmart. The one in Murrieta up until recently, would sell how ever many boxes someone wanted. Yesterday, they told me they are now restricting it to 3 boxes per person.

A month ago, the same mgr. said he didn't see any problem with a gun store coming in and spending thousands to buy all of their ammo for resale as it was capitalism at work. Now, it's 3 boxes.:eek:

tonelar
05-31-2009, 3:41 PM
I thought all 22 long rifles were lubed lead.

oso
Most all 22LR ammo uses heel based lead bullets. Plated or jacketed versions have less of a need for conventional lubrication. Plain lead bullets need lube in their rings to function properly. The other option is lead tumbled in Moly. These don't need additional lubrication and have a dark grey/ black appearance.

mcat707
07-01-2009, 6:40 AM
I finally got to pick up some more Lightnings yesterday at my local WalMart but they were sold to me by individual packs of 50rds each priced at a $1.47. The lady said they were only sold as a individual packs and not by the brick.

When I bought them by the brick back in the mid of May (see my OP) the guy behind the counter did seem confused on why he had received only a few bricks from his distributor so I guess he screwed up by selling them as a brick.

Faust
07-03-2009, 1:20 AM
do you have some feedback on the groups you're getting with these?

mcat707
07-04-2009, 1:24 PM
do you have some feedback on the groups you're getting with these?

Unfortunately I have not tried the Lightnings out yet. Im still going through my Federal AutoMatch bricks and 550 bricks.

Can anybody shed some light on these Lightning rounds?

ANARCANGEL
07-05-2009, 10:45 PM
The Wally Worlds near Modesto Have Jack @^&p. I have about 20,000 rounds of .22 but like a few more.....you know....just in case :30: