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Rob Roy
05-12-2009, 9:25 PM
Which one whould you choose and why?

NiteQwill
05-12-2009, 9:29 PM
23. .40 cal, good for ccw.

hybridatsun350
05-12-2009, 9:38 PM
Model 19.

The original Glock was designed for 9mm, and Glock's in 9mm have proven more reliable. Plus, 9mm is cheaper to shoot.

Saigon1965
05-12-2009, 9:42 PM
I had both - What purpose will they serve? 19 is nice the 23 has a bit more of bite to it due to .40 -

Rob Roy
05-12-2009, 10:13 PM
Model 19.

The original Glock was designed for 9mm, and Glock's in 9mm have proven more reliable. Plus, 9mm is cheaper to shoot.
On the other hand 23 can have a 9mm conversion barrel installed.

savasyn
05-12-2009, 10:20 PM
I have two G23s, so I guess I'm going to vote that direction ;)
You can convert a 23 to 9mm, but you can't convert a 19 to .40.

Rob Roy
05-12-2009, 10:28 PM
I have two G23s, so I guess I'm going to vote that direction ;)
You can convert a 23 to 9mm, but you can't convert a 19 to .40.
How's the quality of the conversion barrels comparing to the factory ones?

SVT-40
05-12-2009, 10:34 PM
I had a G19 when I had to qualify (I'm a retired LEO) I had to bring my own ammo. Since the Dept supplied .40 S&W ammo I bought a G23. Now I shoot for free!!!

Either are the perfect size for a off duty or CCW weapon.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Pistols/DSC08452.jpg
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Pistols/DSC08457.jpg

walter
05-12-2009, 10:48 PM
i dont know why, but I hate .40. too snappy

Sicarius
05-12-2009, 10:49 PM
Both are great but I like the .40 better.
Kevin

The SoCal Gunner
05-12-2009, 11:06 PM
I like the extra power of the .40s&w and another +1 for the conversion barrel (9mm and .357sig).

Tillers_Rule
05-12-2009, 11:31 PM
I voted 19 but changed my mind. The 9mm barrel for the 23 is only $100 or so. Makes sense to have a gun you can shoot either with.

DDRH
05-13-2009, 12:24 AM
is the G19 and G23 exactly the same? except for caliber size? same internals? size? recoil spring tension rating (dunno how to describe it)? basically whats the difference between both, besides caliber size.

I'd like to get a Glock19, but 2 of my buddies got G23's and they love it. I already have an HKP2K in .40 so i'm not looking into another .40. But the ability to do a 9mm conversion on a G23 is very attractive.

AdamM
05-13-2009, 12:39 AM
is the G19 and G23 exactly the same? except for caliber size? same internals? size? recoil spring tension rating (dunno how to describe it)? basically whats the difference between both, besides caliber size.

I'd like to get a Glock19, but 2 of my buddies got G23's and they love it. I already have an HKP2K in .40 so i'm not looking into another .40. But the ability to do a 9mm conversion on a G23 is very attractive.

Yep, same frame, same size, just differnet calibers. A G23 with a 9mm conversion barrel is basically a G19 with "23" on the side

ZepoL
05-13-2009, 2:09 AM
+1 on the G23(.40).

dgc357
05-13-2009, 3:28 AM
I would much rather have a G23 then a G19.

Quiet
05-13-2009, 3:37 AM
Glock 19.
Ammo is cheaper.
I also have a pleathora of 9x19mm large capacity Glock magazines since before 01-01-2000.

I rather own a Glock 38 than the Glock 23.
I'm more accurate shooting the .45GAP than the .40S&W and felt recoil is less with the .45GAP than the .40S&W.

DDRH
05-13-2009, 4:31 AM
Yep, same frame, same size, just differnet calibers. A G23 with a 9mm conversion barrel is basically a G19 with "23" on the side

So why wouldn't i be able to go G19 and put in a G23 barrel? see below.

I have two G23s, so I guess I'm going to vote that direction ;)
You can convert a 23 to 9mm, but you can't convert a 19 to .40.

:confused:

the G19 and G23 use the same mags too?

plankowner
05-13-2009, 6:25 AM
my vote is for the g23 my hands down favorite handgun and I completely agree about getting a 9mm barrel and g19 mag and enjoy the benefits of both rounds. I have one of them and its great never had a problem and I am planning on getting the .357 sig for it later .
I have a friend with the baby 9mm and he liked the fact that I can change mine over and he wanted to do the same but he is unable to do so , so now he is pretty bummed about that so I would say go .40 and enjoy 3 calibers.

Ladyfox
05-13-2009, 7:26 AM
I went with the G19 for two reasons:

1. While the G23 is nice to have the ability to swap from .40 to 9mm you should stick with a single caliber if you plan on using it for a primary pistol. For that matter, what happens if you shoot the .40 and wind up not liking the "bite" it has for recoil compared to the 9mm? You then wound up spending $100 more for a G19 that can shoot a .40 round that you dislike.

2. 9mm ammo is plentiful, and cheap from the looks of it as well, compared to .40 ammo. Makes me glad I have a G19 myself to shoot with more frequently compared to my .45.

Besides, if you are on the fence on this one you really should try shooting both and see which one you prefer. That will pretty much help clench the deal but if you have shot both, AND the recoil of the .40 does not bother you, then the G23 may be a better option but only if you really do plan on getting the 9mm conversion kit.

Vin496
05-13-2009, 7:32 AM
right now as things are I would go G23. Everywhere I go I see .40 available. Trying to find 9 mm can be fairly difficult right now.

JTROKS
05-13-2009, 7:36 AM
I voted for the G23 reason being you can always get a $100 after market barrel to shoot 9mm. I'm thinking you're picking a compact handgun for home defense and the 40 cal is hard to beat.

Oldnoob
05-13-2009, 7:37 AM
Get the G23 and the conversion barrel. All the cheap 9mm you can shoot and leave 40 for HD.


or in my case, 40 is all I can find, so 40 is all I shoot.

Oldnoob
05-13-2009, 7:37 AM
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f185/johell/My%20gun/Twinglock2.jpg

tomd1584
05-13-2009, 7:43 AM
I love my 23. Like other have said, get a 23 and get the 9mm conversion barrel and a couple of magazines. Since the recoil from the .40 is not bothersome at all to me, i'll take the larger round any day of the week. Plus, it seems i can always find .40 ammo nowadays but NEVER any 9mm. Heck, even my GF can shoot the 23 without any problems with recoil, and she's 5'4" 130 lbs..

glockman19
05-13-2009, 7:44 AM
Glock 19.

Why?

Less expensive ammo. glock platform was made on the 9mm. Less recoil on the 19 than the 23.

glbtrottr
05-13-2009, 7:54 AM
Hey Glockman19...

On a gunfight, I'll put out more rounds downrange on my 23 than your 19, while you're busy looking to get 9mm ammo at the local walmart...:)

If 9mm becomes plentiful again, I'll drop in a $100 9mm barrel, use glock 19 magazines and extractor, and voila! A glock 19.

Incidentally...I own both. :) And today my Sig 229 and Glock 23 seem to be getting a little more attention...

Glock619
05-13-2009, 8:12 AM
I have the 23 and love it. It's the first .40 I have owned and couldn't be happier.

Thinking about the whole 9mm con. thing. What do I need? Barrel and mag?

glockman19
05-13-2009, 8:15 AM
Hey Glockman19...

On a gunfight, I'll put out more rounds downrange on my 23 than your 19, while you're busy looking to get 9mm ammo at the local walmart...


Do you feel better now?

D53
05-13-2009, 8:16 AM
Well I own a Glock 19 and a Glock 22 ( I know its not compact, but it is a .40) and I prefer the G22 over the G19, I actually qualify better with the G22. Just my 2c.

norbs007
05-13-2009, 8:21 AM
I would say try both and pick whichever feels right for you.

plankowner
05-13-2009, 10:24 AM
[QUOTE=Glock619;2471388]I have the 23 and love it. It's the first .40 I have owned and couldn't be happier.

Thinking about the whole 9mm con. thing. What do I need? Barrel and mag?[/QUOT


thats it barrel and mag

savasyn
05-13-2009, 10:38 AM
I have the 23 and love it. It's the first .40 I have owned and couldn't be happier.

Thinking about the whole 9mm con. thing. What do I need? Barrel and mag?

For target shooting at the range, you can get away with a barrel and mags, but to do it right, you also have to get a 9mm extractor and ejector.

Once you know how, you can swap out all those parts in less than 5 minutes as it's super easy.

Badger71
05-13-2009, 10:49 AM
Glock 23 for me. However, go shoot both and see which one you prefer. i'd be happy to own either gun since I enjoy the ergonomics and mechanics of Glock pistols.

Rob Roy
05-13-2009, 11:09 AM
Interesting that most people vote for 19, but people who write a message recommend 23...

Bryan16
05-13-2009, 11:19 AM
I have my G19 filled with 16 HST 147gr +P's and 3 mags standing by. I can't say I ever feel underpowered with this setup.

DDRH
05-13-2009, 11:22 AM
For target shooting at the range, you can get away with a barrel and mags, but to do it right, you also have to get a 9mm extractor and ejector.

Once you know how, you can swap out all those parts in less than 5 minutes as it's super easy.

I asked in a post earlier in this thread, but no one answered...so here it goes again :o

Why wouldn't i be able to do G19==>G23 conversion? What's the difference?
:confused:

Rob Roy
05-13-2009, 12:58 PM
I asked in a post earlier in this thread, but no one answered...so here it goes again :o

Why wouldn't i be able to do G19==>G23 conversion? What's the difference?
:confused:
The hole in the slide is not big enough for .40 S&W barrel.

SpecV
05-13-2009, 1:04 PM
glock 19 because you can make a very tight grouping. 9mm is much easier to control.

becxltoo984
05-13-2009, 1:22 PM
I own both but seem to carry the G 19 more .

madmike
05-13-2009, 1:33 PM
I have a baseless unreasonable hatred for 40S&W, so I choose the 19. Plus I already have one, so it is the cheapest choice for me.

-madmike.

:shrug:

joe_sun
05-13-2009, 1:41 PM
I own a G23 and wish it was a 19. Aside from the known problems with 40sw Glocks, there is little to no real world difference in terminal ballistics between a 40S&W and a 9mm regardless of what anyone says.

savasyn
05-13-2009, 2:55 PM
I own a G23 and wish it was a 19. Aside from the known problems with 40sw Glocks, there is little to no real world difference in terminal ballistics between a 40S&W and a 9mm regardless of what anyone says.

Sounds like there might be some folks out there that'd be willing to trade you.

Or you could buy a conversion barrel, mags, ejector and extractor and have a G19 regardless what it says on the slide.

If you got a KKM conversion barrel, you'd have a match-quality tube that you could shoot lead through if you wanted. I use one of these in my competition G35(converted to 9mm) and it rocks!

bigbob76
05-13-2009, 7:16 PM
I think .40 is fine but not in a 23 because the weight and ergonomics. I have a Sig 239 in .40 and like it. The 23 which seemed like a good idea because it fit my 19 holster was miserable to shoot. I love the 19, it's easy to shoot well. My 30 is one of my favorites, I don't see the point of the 23.

smittty
05-14-2009, 10:11 AM
Berfore you buy the G23 with the intent to shoot 9mm you should know that you need more than just a 9mm conversion barrel. I bougr the 23 thinking of the same logic but was very disappinted.

Along with the conv barrel you need 9mm mags and swap the .40 extractor for the 9mm extractor.

DDRH
05-14-2009, 10:13 AM
I guess, i would get a Glock19 instead, and then get a Glock23 later on...best of both worlds...LOL

Black Majik
05-14-2009, 10:16 AM
G19. I used to have a G23, took me 6 months to convince myself to buy it. Sold it after 3 months cuz I ended up being too recoil sensitive.

3 rentals of the G23 through that 6 month contemplation, and I still ended up not liking it.

Yeah, I'm a super recoil wuss. G19 is much easier to shoot.

will227457
05-14-2009, 10:26 AM
g 19, ammo is cheaper and you will practice more,

most will say the 40 for the bigger bullet and "Stopping Power" but bottom line is if you can't hit your target it doesn't matter how big your bullet is.....

147gn hp in 9mm is an excellent man stopper if you are concerned with selfdefense

MKE
05-14-2009, 1:52 PM
Anyone who can't hit their designated target at the typical range of 25' or less shouldn't have a Glock in their hand...they need a shotgun! :D

I bought both G-19 and G23 (2nd gen) long ago...ended up selling the G-19, which I regret doing. My pick is the G-23 for flexibility of shooting both calibers.

tmuller
05-14-2009, 1:58 PM
I have a baseless unreasonable hatred for 40S&W

Me too, so I voted for the G19. Actually, I've owned a .40 and didn't like the round and feel I lose nothing with the 9mm and gain less expensive ammo. I guess I have some basis and reason for my hatred of the .40...

smittty
05-14-2009, 2:11 PM
I'm following this thread because I bought the 23 for all the reasons mentioned and after a year with I sold it along with the conversion barrel. Can you guess what pistol I have now...yes it's the G19.

oghl888
05-14-2009, 2:42 PM
G19 would be my choice given the two. I had one, but sold it and got 3 G17's later. The G19 just doesn't fit my hand as well.

Rob Roy
05-14-2009, 2:44 PM
I'm following this thread because I bought the 23 for all the reasons mentioned and after a year with I sold it along with the conversion barrel. Can you guess what pistol I have now...yes it's the G19.
What was your experience with the conversion barrel? What didn't you like about 23? Recoil snappiness?

stormy_clothing
05-14-2009, 2:49 PM
there both great guns, I gave my mom a g23 with a stainless steal barrel and marine spring cups and it's one of the most accurate guns I've ever shot, plus it will shoot bulk 40 so it's pretty cheap and the extra power is always there.

And you really only need a couple of mags of +p for home defense either way.

smittty
05-14-2009, 8:39 PM
What was your experience with the conversion barrel? What didn't you like about 23? Recoil snappiness?

The recoil didn't bother me but I'm not very recoil sensitive. Shooting 40 sw was perfectly fine but I wasn't very accurate with it. Perhaps it was just poor shooting but today I shoot the G19 accurately and back then I was dead on with a HK USP. I can't explain it!

I recall that using just the conversion barrel with 9mm ammo in the 40 cal mags I had frequent jamming. Then I bought 9mm mags and still had jamming but less frequent. I researched it and found out I then needed to replace the extractor so I gave up on the conversion idea and sold the conversion barrel and mags and eventually the gun.

Instead of a conversion barrel & extractor a better option would be to get a G19 upper to use on the G23 frame. This way you can quickly switch calibers without needing to swap extractors. Back then the G19 upper was around $300.

If you absolutely know you need the extra push of the 40sw then get the G23and forget the conversion.

If you are a regular guy like me and just want a centerfire handgun for plinking with the possibility of needing it for SD then I suggest the 9mm.

Smitty

Mstnpete
06-04-2009, 8:30 AM
Both are great but for stopping power I would go with the 40 S&W.

Gryff
06-04-2009, 8:55 AM
Compact gun, so not ideal for target shooting or plinking. Therefore, get the better caliber.

SVT-40
06-04-2009, 4:43 PM
As far a a conversion I have the .22 conversion by Advantage arms. It fits both my G19 and G23.

Talk about neat.

The conversion top end (slide, barrel recoil spring ect) is a direct replacement for the Glock slide and barrel. Just slip off the Glock slide and replace it with the advantage Arms unit. Swap out the Glock mag with the Advantage Arms .22 LR mag and away you go.
Perfect function and you can shoot away for pennies.

When your done just swap the slides and mag and you are back to 9mm or .40 cal.

I paid for my conversion in just a few months with the $$ I saved on ammo. plus it's just plain fun to shoot a Glock with absolutely zero recoil.

BunnySlayer
06-04-2009, 4:51 PM
I have one of each. The 23 is really snappy but not too bad.

badwolf
06-04-2009, 4:58 PM
I like the G23, and its the handgun i use most often at Frontsight

MarioS
06-04-2009, 5:28 PM
Whatever caliber round you like better, I guess. The use of the gun would change my decision as well. I would probably take the G23 myself for most purposes. Here in sunny "10-round" California (for civs anyway...), one of the biggest benefits of 9mm in overall magazine capacity is kind of a null point. Round for round, I'll take .40S&W and place my shots well. Some don't like the recoil on .40 though...

goathead
06-04-2009, 6:30 PM
both are great

roor1200
06-05-2009, 6:37 PM
G19 because its easy to shoot and like most said ammo is cheaper.. i personally like .40 - .45 in a full size pistol.