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PutTogether
05-08-2009, 4:30 PM
I caught this gun (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=181589) for sale yesterday on the "for sale" forum and snagged it up. I did the DROS today at On Target because they let you shoot your gun there during your ten day wait.

Holy crap this is a fun gun. I would HIGHLY recommend anyone that likes shooting .22 and or shooting revolvers pick one of these up. Incredible build quality - feels like a gun, not like a toy.

BamBam-31
05-08-2009, 4:40 PM
Aw, man, I was eyeing that puppy, too. Nice get. :)

wellfedirishman
05-08-2009, 4:54 PM
That's one great revolver, you will love it:

Couple of quick improvements that are easy to do yourself:
Wolff Type 1 standard hammer spring, makes the double action much smoother. Don't get the reduced power one, it gives too many misfires.

www.gunsprings.com, look under S&W K frame:
Shooter's Pak with a TYPE-1 std. power mainspring.
Stock No. 17120.....$15.00

And a set of S&W Target grips (the big chunky ones) about $20 in fleabay

And finally, a scope rail for a red dot, I used one similar to this:
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=340945&utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=free&utm_campaign=657

Enjoy! Stock up on 22LR, you will be shooting a lot of it.

savasyn
05-08-2009, 5:36 PM
Oh rub it in that you grabbed that fine fine piece!
Enjoy the heck out of it!
I'll get one eventually.

PutTogether
05-08-2009, 5:42 PM
Guy that had it before me already switched the springs out for me!

maxicon
05-09-2009, 9:20 AM
Nice! The 4" 10 shot is my favorite version - best balance, great capacity - and is the sweetest full-frame .22 revolver you can get, IMO.

I should probably sell off a few of my cheap .22s for one of these.

Seed
05-10-2009, 2:43 PM
Nice pick up

SmithAndJohnson
05-10-2009, 9:55 PM
Awesome gun. Love mine, will never ever let it go.

Get one (or a few) of these (http://ds10speed.spaces.live.com/) - it doubles the fun.

tbui
05-10-2009, 10:18 PM
It's one my favorite gun from my collection and I'll never sell it. Get a 686 4" to match.

nikki#2
05-10-2009, 10:29 PM
"...Holy crap this is a fun gun..."

:iagree: Nice catch! You'll want to get some nice wood grips for it. These Kim Ahrends feel like they were custom fit to my hands! :thumbsup:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/617-2-1.jpg

nikki#2
05-10-2009, 10:34 PM
In time, you'll want a nice Leather Holster too if you plan to carry it afield. While you search for the perfect Leather one,
I can recommend this Uncle Mike's Flap Holster for < $20:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Uncle-Mike-3-4-Revolvr-Military-Flap-Style-Holster-New_W0QQitemZ360144079913QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item360144079913&_trksid=p3911.c 0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|24 0%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

The eBay seller accepted my offer of $15 (+ shipping)... so if you're interested, I'd suggest submitting an offer for < $15 to see if he bites.
I couldn't find this model on Uncle Mike's website. Here's my initial impressions:

- My 4" 617 fits the flap holster quite snugly. No movement at all.
- As you can see, it is a bit wider and "blockier" than the standard Uncle Mike's Sidekick Holster (shown w/ my 6" 617).
- The Flap is attached via Velcro to the back side of the holster, and can be adjusted and removed, if desired. A retaining strap (also Velcro attached) is included.
- The rear sight is fully protected and covered. It rests 1.5" down into the holster.
- The grips are fully covered and protected.
- The trigger and trigger guard is also fully covered and protected.

Net: For $20, I'm pleased with the Value, Fit & Finish of this Uncle Mike's Nylon Flap Holster. It fully protects the Grips and Trigger,
and will serve nicely in inclement weather, or when I'm in heavy brush and don't want to risk scratching a nice leather holster.

Enjoy!

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/holster2.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/holster6.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/holster4.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/holster5.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/holster3.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/holster1.jpg

TheBundo
05-10-2009, 11:08 PM
I've shot rental 617's a lot at TargetMasters. Nice gun

Seed
05-10-2009, 11:16 PM
:iagree: Nice catch! You'll want to get some nice wood grips for it. These Kim Ahrends feel like they were custom fit to my hands! :thumbsup:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/617-2-1.jpg

stop showing this picture you bastard! It's too damn pretty!

nikki#2
05-10-2009, 11:26 PM
stop showing this picture you bastard! It's too damn pretty!

It's a Real Shame... I was planning to give it to you, my East Bay Brother.
But you know I can't now... since you sold off it's Soul Mate! :43:

RedDawn
05-10-2009, 11:48 PM
Congrats on a nice pickup. It's next on my short list.

Seed
05-11-2009, 12:42 AM
It's a Real Shame... I was planning to give it to you, my East Bay Brother.
But you know I can't now... since you sold off it's Soul Mate! :43:

yeah sure. kick me in the nuts while i'm down.

OqHJqpeCEBc

PutTogether
05-11-2009, 10:11 PM
Thanks for the comments, and for the heads up on that holster. I ordered some Ahrends grips, which arrived today. Too bad I accidentally ordered the square butt version. :(

zman
05-11-2009, 10:29 PM
Congrats! Yep, mine's a keeper :thumbsup:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/zandrolouie/Guns/DSC_6348.jpg

liketoshoot
05-12-2009, 10:53 AM
I've had 2 for about 3 years, a 4" and a 6" they never stay clean! Especially now with the price of ammo.
Good grab

nikki#2
06-01-2009, 7:53 PM
Cool... My new Hogue wood grip in cocobolo just arrived today! :thumbsup:

That's one of the cool things about revolvers... so easy to swap the grips out to tailor a custom fit to your hands...

I like the 'no-screw' look of the Hogue. It has a completely different feel than the Ahrends in my other pic.... Much fuller in the hands.
Feels larger and thicker. Some may not like it as much... as the Ahrends feel so right (and I'm so used to them). I'm obviously going to
need to handle and shoot both grips A LOT to determine which I like better! :43:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/hogue2.jpg

bongfoo
06-01-2009, 8:15 PM
god! i LOVE those grips! they would look lovely on my 686...
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/hogue2.jpg

PutTogether
06-01-2009, 8:15 PM
How do you keep yours so shiny?

nikki#2
06-01-2009, 8:31 PM
How do you keep yours so shiny?

Mothers mag polish, and old t-shirt... and some inane sitcom on the boob tube! :nuts:

dwh100
06-01-2009, 9:45 PM
Thanx a lot! I've been doing pretty well not letting the new gun acquisition bug get its teeth in me. Until now!!!

Gonna be my next purchase!

zman
06-07-2009, 2:16 PM
Cool... My new Hogue wood grip in cocobolo just arrived today! :thumbsup:

That's one of the cool things about revolvers... so easy to swap the grips out to tailor a custom fit to your hands...

I like the 'no-screw' look of the Hogue. It has a completely different feel than the Ahrends in my other pic.... Much fuller in the hands.
Feels larger and thicker. Some may not like it as much... as the Ahrends feel so right (and I'm so used to them). I'm obviously going to
need to handle and shoot both grips A LOT to determine which I like better! :43:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/hogue2.jpg

So have you figured out yet which one's better? Ahrends vs Hogue?

Ifticar
06-07-2009, 5:00 PM
I caught this gun (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=181589) for sale yesterday on the "for sale" forum and snagged it up. I did the DROS today at On Target because they let you shoot your gun there during your ten day wait.

Holy crap this is a fun gun. I would HIGHLY recommend anyone that likes shooting .22 and or shooting revolvers pick one of these up. Incredible build quality - feels like a gun, not like a toy.

I should. I really should. I would like to buy one. Will you sell me yours?

PutTogether
06-07-2009, 7:30 PM
I should. I really should. I would like to buy one. Will you sell me yours?

No. But I wish you the best of luck.

nikki#2
06-08-2009, 10:18 AM
So have you figured out yet which one's better? Ahrends vs Hogue?

Yo Zman! I grew up by R-side. Used to hang w/ my crew at Tyler Mall and chase the hotties around when it was too hot outside! :thumbsup:

I'm really enjoying the Hogue now that I'm getting used to it. I wear a large sized glove (cadet in a golf glove) and it does fit my hand really well!
The Hogue's definitely bigger than the Ahrends, so I'd have to say the Ahrends would probably fit the majority of hand sizes better...
But my GF's hands are pretty large (she's almost 6') and she has no problem with the Hogue and thinks it's 'prettier'. :thumbsup:

Actually, we're both really enjoying the 617 so much (her favorite gun), so I'm searching for a 4" 686 to match it, and the 686 will replace a Glock for HD.
I just picked up a Crimson Trace Grip off eBay for her to practice with on the 617. I've had one on my J-frame S&W for a while and love it! Not cheap,
but I got it for ~$150 and would definitely recommend it for HD. I've seen them go a few times for about the same price from this seller: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190310402838

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/CTC6173.jpg

zman
06-11-2009, 8:30 AM
Yo Zman! I grew up by R-side. Used to hang w/ my crew at Tyler Mall and chase the hotties around when it was too hot outside! :thumbsup:

I'm really enjoying the Hogue now that I'm getting used to it. I wear a large sized glove (cadet in a golf glove) and it does fit my hand really well!
The Hogue's definitely bigger than the Ahrends, so I'd have to say the Ahrends would probably fit the majority of hand sizes better...
But my GF's hands are pretty large (she's almost 6') and she has no problem with the Hogue and thinks it's 'prettier'. :thumbsup:

Actually, we're both really enjoying the 617 so much (her favorite gun), so I'm searching for a 4" 686 to match it, and the 686 will replace a Glock for HD.
I just picked up a Crimson Trace Grip off eBay for her to practice with on the 617. I've had one on my J-frame S&W for a while and love it! Not cheap,
but I got it for ~$150 and would definitely recommend it for HD. I've seen them go a few times for about the same price from this seller: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190310402838

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/CTC6173.jpg

Thanks for the reply bro! I have medium-ish hands, so I'll keep an eye on the Ahrends.

dwh100
06-16-2009, 7:54 PM
:iagree: Nice catch! You'll want to get some nice wood grips for it. These Kim Ahrends feel like they were custom fit to my hands! :thumbsup:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/617-2-1.jpg


May I ask what is the wood type and finish of those beautiful grips?
Thanx!

wksinatl
06-17-2009, 4:54 AM
I've got one and love it. The only gripe I have heard about the 10 shot model is the double action pull is not as smooth as one that is a 6 shot. I have never compared the2 side by side so don't know. I guess it's the geometry of the hand that turns the cylinder. I shoot mine single action only so it would matter to me. Enjoy your new HG!!!

Keith

nikki#2
06-18-2009, 8:54 PM
May I ask what is the wood type and finish of those beautiful grips?
Thanx!

Howdy dwh100 :)

Those grips are Kim Ahrends combats in Cocobolo wood. Sorry, I don't know the exact finish... I bought the 617 used, and the (very cool) former owner offered to include any of his grips in this pic... Well, I think you can guess which one caught my eye! :D

Actually, both the Hogue and the Ahrends in my pics above are Cocobolo wood. The Hogue has a gloss finish, the Ahrends do not. I really like the Ahrends a LOT. They fit my hands REALLY well... BIG improvement from stock S&W rubber grips. I wear a large glove, actually a cadet-size golf glove, and the Ahrends fit me better than the Hogue does. I like the Hogue alot too, and it's on my 617 right now... but unlike the Hogue, the Ahrends feel like they were custom-made to my hand. Let's just say when I need to shoot well (e.g., a little friendly wager...), my 617 will be wearing the Ahrends. 'nuff said. :chris:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/grips1.jpg

nikki#2
06-18-2009, 10:19 PM
I've got one and love it. The only gripe I have heard about the 10 shot model is the double action pull is not as smooth as one that is a 6 shot. I have never compared the2 side by side so don't know. I guess it's the geometry of the hand that turns the cylinder. I shoot mine single action only so it would matter to me. Enjoy your new HG!!!

Keith

Hmmmm.... I bought both a 6" 6-shot (w/ target trigger + hammer) and a 4" 10-shot at the same time... with the intention of keeping only one.
Off bags @ 25yards w/ scope I found the two about equal.

The 6" 6-shot was well used and the 4" 10-shot was essentially new. I MUCH preferred the 6-shot because the action in both SA and DA was soooooo much smoother!
BIG difference. And while the 4" may have looked prettier with the wood grips it came with, the reality was it was getting left at home. :sleeping:

Then I did a trigger job on the 4" 10-shot (Wolff 13lb Rebound Spring, Reduced-Power Mainspring (initially experienced FTF's), light stoning w/ the help of someone that knew what he was doing, followed up with 2K+ dryfires w/ snapcaps)...........

Man-o-Man, the table did a 180! :eek: From that moment forward, the 6" 6-shot's days were numbered. The 4" 10-shot now laid claim to the superior trigger in both SA & DA.
And as a bonus, I found that (for me), 10-shots are more fun than 6-shots.

You gotta LOVE a 617 in any configuration. When I see someone else shooting one at the range, it brings a smile to my face and I always walk over and introduce myself.
S&W makes a very fine revolver indeed!

:cheers2:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/Image2.jpg

dwh100
06-21-2009, 9:37 AM
Good shooting!
I just DROSed my 4" 617 on Friday!
Ordered some grips and the Wolf spring kit too

I've never taken a revolver apart. Is replacing the strings pretty straight forward? I did watch a tutorial web video from Midway, but it wasn't very detailed. Got any hints or tips on changing out the springs?

Cheers!

nikki#2
06-21-2009, 7:19 PM
Good shooting!
I just DROSed my 4" 617 on Friday!
Ordered some grips and the Wolf spring kit too

I've never taken a revolver apart. Is replacing the strings pretty straight forward? I did watch a tutorial web video from Midway, but it wasn't very detailed. Got any hints or tips on changing out the springs?

Cheers!

Congrats on the 617! You will LOVE it! :D Cracking open a Smith revolver is pretty intimidating your first time! :eek:

First.... The internals of a S&W revolver are a work of art! Spend a little time studying this interactive website to understand the basics of what's going on under that sideplate before you attempt anything. You'll appreciate the time you spent once you remove the sideplate! Pay peticular attention to the functions of the Mainspring and Rebound Springs:

http://www.rattlesnakeridge.org/flash/SW357Mag1.swf

Next, get some help... I posted in the Gunsmithing, and How To Forum asking for someone local & experienced to (Please) help me install the Wolff springs. A VERY experienced Calguns member who lives just a couple miles away responded and spent AT LEAST half a day showing me the ropes! He was AWESOME and so were the results! :cool: Since you're close to LA, I'd suggest shooting a pm to Saki302. He would have done the same for me if I was down there. Some pretty COOL people here on Calguns!

Enjoy that 617 and lets see some pics when you get it! :)

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/617rebound.jpg

dwh100
06-21-2009, 7:57 PM
Thanx for the cool link!
I've worked on 10/22s, M1s, ARs, and 1911s before, but not revolvers.
Once you remove the cover, does the cylinder and yoke slide out manually with ease, or is there a retainer of some sort? **(I found out that one of the side plate screws hold it all in)
It appears that the end of the rebound block will lift up and out once the rebound sping is depressed. Is it as simple as depressing the spring, lifting the block out, replacing the rebound spring into the block, depressing the spring and dropping the block back in? The main spring seems pretty straight forward.
Thanx for the help!:)

Addendum:
Just talked to a buddy whose friend is a S&W expert and is glad to come by and help tutor the spring removal and tune up over a few brews!
I'll get some pics up around next Mon. or Tues.
Cheers!

Ditch
06-21-2009, 9:16 PM
I like my 4" 686 and my 617 in 4" I should say LOVE, but I get all choked up and tears run down my face with Joy!:)

nikki#2
06-21-2009, 9:26 PM
Thanx for the cool link!
I've worked on 10/22s, M1s, ARs, and 1911s before, but not revolvers.
Once you remove the cover, does the cylinder and yoke slide out manually with ease, or is there a retainer of some sort?
It appears that the end of the rebound block will lift up and out once the rebound sping is depressed. Is it as simple as depressing the spring, lifting the block out, replacing the rebound spring into the block, depressing the spring and dropping the block back in? The main spring seems pretty straight forward.
Thanx for the help!:)

From my best recollection (Note: I've only had the sideplate off mine the one time);

1) The most forward screw on the side plate secures the cylinder and crane assembly. Once this screw is removed and the sideplate is off,
these are unsecured and easily removed.

2) I did not remove the Rebound Block. The Rebound Spring is held within the block with a screw, and it is under pressure.
It was not so much a problem removing it as replacing it. It is somewhat difficult to compress the spring into the block with the screw
and thread the screw back in. Care is needed here, as I can picture the spring popping out and flying across the room. The spring
is longer than the screw. One end rests against the back of the block, the other end fits over the screw. You compress the spring
with the screw and thread it in. Took me 3 tries to get it in there, as I was being overly cautious, but I finally got it in there.
Replacing this spring was the only difficult (tricky) step for me. I went with the 13lb spring in the Performance Pak.

3) Correct, the mainspring is straight-forward and easily replaced. I used a wolff reduced-power mainspring (Type 2) and experienced FTF's.
I later found out this is a common problem with the Type 2. I would recommend going with Wolff's Type 1 - Standard Power Mainspring.

Good Luck! :)

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/swspring.jpg

nikki#2
06-21-2009, 9:37 PM
Addendum:
Just talked to a buddy whose friend is a S&W expert and is glad to come by and help tutor the spring removal and tune up over a few brews!
I'll get some pics up around next Mon. or Tues.
Cheers!

Excellent! :chris:

And remember, the springs will lighten the trigger pull... But it's the stoning in the proper places that really makes that trigger smoooooooooth!
So tell him to bring his stones along, 'cause you're serving up the ice-cold Premium Brew! :43:

nikki#2
06-21-2009, 10:10 PM
I like my 4" 686 and my 617 in 4" I should say LOVE, but I get all choked up and tears run down my face with Joy!:)

Oh Man! Any chance you could post pics of them side-by-side?

A 4" 686 is next on my List! The 686 will be for IDPA and HD... and the 617 will be for inexpensive practice,
as well as targeting shooting and plinking. What a great combo! :D

supermario
06-25-2009, 7:22 PM
Congrats! Yep, mine's a keeper :thumbsup:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/zandrolouie/Guns/DSC_6348.jpg

How much do these cost? Very nice! I love 22's.

zman
06-26-2009, 8:01 AM
How much do these cost? Very nice! I love 22's.

Currently, SRP is $916. I got mine last Sept 2008 brand new for $680 before taxes & fees.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=14748&langId=-1&isFirearm=Y

WhiteHot
06-26-2009, 2:55 PM
Currently, SRP is $916.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

nikki#2
06-27-2009, 12:25 AM
Currently, SRP is $916.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/omg2.jpghttp://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/omg3.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/omg2-1.jpghttp://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/omg1.jpg

nikki#2
06-27-2009, 12:48 AM
I purchased the 4" 10-shot in my pics above used off smith&wesson forums for $500, incl. the Ahrends wood grips. That was a deal! :43:

I recently sold this (very accurate) 6" 617 here on Calguns for $525. I included a brand-new Smith & Wesson leather holster and two brand-new speed-loaders
for that price. The buyer test-fired it at an indoor range prior to purchase. He had a big smile on his face! :)

If considering used, keep in mind that S&W backs up their products with excellent Customer Service, plus a (transferrable) Lifetime Warranty.
If service is needed, they cover overnight shipping both ways.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/6176.jpg

dwh100
07-01-2009, 12:49 PM
Ok, Picked it up Monday, and the grips arrived today!

IDPA4U
07-02-2009, 5:04 PM
Ok, Picked it up Monday, and the grips arrived today!

Just found a 617 online today for a good price and had to buy it. Now of course I need to find the right grips and I think the Ahrends are perfect.

Are those the Cocobolo Round to square butt conversion with finger grooves?

How long did it take for them to arrive?

nikki#2
07-02-2009, 5:13 PM
Ok, Picked it up Monday, and the grips arrived today!

Very nice! :cool: Are those Ahrends? Nice grain... What's the wood and finish? Let us know when you do the trigger job! :p

dwh100
07-02-2009, 7:11 PM
Yep those are Ahrend's Retro combat square grips in Cocobolo / Tung oil finish. They took a couple weeks to arrive. The one thing I don't like about them is that the back strap doesn't fill these grips all the way to the base. The strap curves in leaving a small portion of the wood grip exposed. Got some Hogues on the way too! Still trying to set up a meet with my buddy and his friend to do the springs and stoning! I think I might go out to Angeles tomorrow morning, and run a few rounds through her anyway.

IDPA4U
07-03-2009, 1:55 PM
Wow, that doesn't look right. Nikki#2 is that how your grips fit?

PutTogether
07-08-2009, 7:18 PM
Yep those are Ahrend's Retro combat square grips in Cocobolo / Tung oil finish. They took a couple weeks to arrive. The one thing I don't like about them is that the back strap doesn't fill these grips all the way to the base. The strap curves in leaving a small portion of the wood grip exposed. Got some Hogues on the way too! Still trying to set up a meet with my buddy and his friend to do the springs and stoning! I think I might go out to Angeles tomorrow morning, and run a few rounds through her anyway.


Those are the wrong grips. Yours are the square butt grips, the ones you want are the round to square butt conversion grips.

dwh100
07-10-2009, 3:41 PM
Yep, talked to Kim Ahrend and he explained that I need a round to square conversion. I'll send them back with a $10 restocking fee and get the correct grips. The Ahrends are pieces of art! BTW got my Hogues from the Hogue auction site for $38 shipped!

checkenbach
07-23-2009, 11:07 PM
There's a nice 617/1 6" on Rimfire Central, it's not on the DOJ list, so Kalifornia guys like me are out of luck, but someone else should snag it!!!!

huntndog
07-24-2009, 8:52 PM
There's a nice 617/1 6" on Rimfire Central, it's not on the DOJ list, so Kalifornia guys like me are out of luck, but someone else should snag it!!!!

Thanks to the List, finding a 'No Lock' in Kalifornia is next to impossible... FTF only, no shipping.
And that Target Trigger and Target Hammer are nice touches as well. :mad:

Oh well, at least there's Buds @ $652 shipped. No TT/TH and you get the internal lock,
but at least you get a 10-shot, which I prefer over the 6: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/26304 :p

Talisker
07-27-2009, 7:17 PM
Can someone give a quick explanation what is meant by "no lock" or "pre-lock"? I just bought a 617 (no dash and number), 6 inch, 6-shot without any real knowledge about the differences between the 617, 617-1, etc. I was just helping out a buddy raise some cash for other projects. Seems these 617's are pretty popular. By the way, this thing is a fabulous shooter.

jazman
07-28-2009, 4:24 AM
Yes! Took a bit of time, but I found a 4 inch 10 shot in Florida with box, docs, and lock. It's on its way to Roger's Relics right now. I'm looking forward to shooting this baby...a LOT!:p

liketoshoot
07-28-2009, 6:38 AM
Can someone give a quick explanation what is meant by "no lock" or "pre-lock"? I just bought a 617 (no dash and number), 6 inch, 6-shot without any real knowledge about the differences between the 617, 617-1, etc. I was just helping out a buddy raise some cash for other projects. Seems these 617's are pretty popular. By the way, this thing is a fabulous shooter.

No lock means the left side does not have the ugle hole where the lock was, pre-lock means there is no hole there.

IDPA4U
08-03-2009, 3:43 PM
Finally got to take my new 4in 617 to the range and had a blast.
I haven't done any trigger work yet but I can see that with a little smoothing and lightening this thing is going to be ridiculous. Even with the factory trigger decent groups were possible in double action at 25 yards.

The DS-10 speed loaders are a must have for this gun and almost make it too easy to burn through ammo while speed shooting on steel.
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa253/ruger4u/IMG_5131.jpg
I did some informal ammo testing to get a baseline for what the gun was capable of and which ammo it preferred. I used an old technique I used to get rid of flinch from a .44 mag and loaded five random snap caps in the cylinder. I've found when shooting groups this helps detect any deficiencies in technique with the intermittent dry fire and is a great way to get to know the trigger of a new gun.
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I fired one group with each ammo type at 25 yards from a seated rest with my hands resting on a rolled up towel. Down the road I'll do a more thorough test with a scope mounted and a better rest.

The results were interesting, the gun certainly has some great accuracy potential(better than I can hold) and it seems you get what you pay for when it comes to premium ammo. I follow the philosophy that if you look at the best three shots out of a five shot group you have a fairly good representation of the mechanical accuracy of a handgun...


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I was pleasantly surprised to find the short sight radius really wasn't a disadvantage as I could routinely hit soda can size targets at 50 yards with ease. The one thing I would change is that it seems there isn't enough daylight visible (to my liking) when lining up the front and rear sights and I may consider a thinner front sight post or a different rear sight blade. Other than that, I'm going to have some trigger work done (any socal gunsmith suggestions) and look for a good holster. This is one great revolver. Its solid, well balanced, accurate, beautiful, and reliable with all ammo. I'll use it for steel matches, bullseye, and for a whole bunch of plinking.
Its a wonderful addition to the collection and can gobble any ammo I can find. I highly recomend it!

huntndog
08-03-2009, 8:55 PM
Nice setup... and excellent shooting! That 4" revolver is mighty accurate, and it looks good too! :cool2:

2new
08-03-2009, 10:40 PM
Sweet. Do the speed loaders have any clearance issues with your grips?

IDPA4U
08-04-2009, 6:21 PM
There is a slight clearance issue but its easy to work around. The grips are worth it.

My next additions will be a Weiglands rear sight blade to give me a more Bomar style sight picture:
http://www.jackweigand.com/smith_wesson_rear_blade.html

And a scope mount to try some optics:
http://www.jackweigand.com/swhpmnt.html