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Justintoxicated
04-30-2009, 12:08 PM
Anyone have a link to yosemite restrictions for guns. I have been googling but unable to find anything. I weas considering going there but my friend said he just got back and witnessed a bear attack a guy in one of the other camps near his.

mark2203
04-30-2009, 12:11 PM
I remember hearing about this last year.

http://www.uniondemocrat.com/2008121895336/News/Local-News/Concealed-and-loaded-guns-OK-in-Yosemite

st.clouds
04-30-2009, 12:11 PM
I'm curious about this too, I thought there's an injunction against ccw in national park, but that should have expired 04/20 any news or update on this?

sfpcservice
04-30-2009, 12:23 PM
TITLE 36--PARKS, FORESTS, AND PUBLIC PROPERTY

CHAPTER I--NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR

PART 2_RESOURCE PROTECTION, PUBLIC USE AND RECREATION--Table of Contents

Sec. 2.4 Weapons, traps and nets.

(a)(1) Except as otherwise provided in this section and parts 7
(special regulations) and 13 (Alaska regulations), the following are
prohibited:
(i) Possessing a weapon, trap or net
(ii) Carrying a weapon, trap or net
(iii) Using a weapon, trap or net
(2) Weapons, traps or nets may be carried, possessed or used:
(i) At designated times and locations in park areas where:
(A) The taking of wildlife is authorized by law in accordance with
Sec. 2.2 of this chapter;
(B) The taking of fish is authorized by law in accordance with Sec.
2.3 of this part.
(ii) When used for target practice at designated times and at
facilities or locations designed and constructed specifically for this
purpose and designated pursuant to special regulations.
(iii) Within a residential dwelling. For purposes of this
subparagraph only, the term ``residential dwelling'' means a fixed
housing structure which is either the principal residence of its
occupants, or is occupied on a regular and recurring basis by its
occupants as an alternate residence or vacation home.
(3) Traps, nets and unloaded weapons may be possessed within a
temporary

[[Page 20]]

lodging or mechanical mode of conveyance when such implements are
rendered temporarily inoperable or are packed, cased or stored in a
manner that will prevent their ready use.
(b) Carrying or possessing a loaded weapon in a motor vehicle,
vessel or other mode of transportation is prohibited, except that
carrying or possessing a loaded weapon in a vessel is allowed when such
vessel is not being propelled by machinery and is used as a shooting
platform in accordance with Federal and State law.
(c) The use of a weapon, trap or net in a manner that endangers
persons or property is prohibited.
(d) The superintendent may issue a permit to carry or possess a
weapon, trap or net under the following circumstances:
(1) When necessary to support research activities conducted in
accordance with Sec. 2.5.
(2) To carry firearms for persons in charge of pack trains or saddle
horses for emergency use.
(3) For employees, agents or cooperating officials in the
performance of their official duties.
(4) To provide access to otherwise inaccessible lands or waters
contiguous to a park area when other means of access are otherwise
impracticable or impossible.

Violation of the terms and conditions of a permit issued pursuant to
this paragraph is prohibited and may result in the suspension or
revocation of the permit.
(e) Authorized Federal, State and local law enforcement officers may
carry firearms in the performance of their official duties.
(f) The carrying or possessing of a weapon, trap or net in violation
of applicable Federal and State laws is prohibited.
(g) The regulations contained in this section apply, regardless of
land ownership, on all lands and waters within a park area that are
under the legislative jurisdiction of the United States.

[48 FR 30282, June 30, 1983, as amended at 49 FR 18450, Apr. 30, 1984;
52 FR 35240, Sept. 18, 1987]

Jeff P
04-30-2009, 12:27 PM
Did the guy get attacked or Yogi help himself to the picnic basket or car window? http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/weapons.htm
Pretty clear.

Maestro Pistolero
04-30-2009, 12:29 PM
I'm curious about this too, I thought there's an injunction against ccw in national park, but that should have expired 04/20 any news or update on this?

Likewise, I am very interested. I didn't realize the injunction was due to expire. Info anyone?

Justintoxicated
04-30-2009, 12:33 PM
Did the guy get attacked or Yogi help himself to the picnic basket or car window? http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/weapons.htm
Pretty clear.

I didn't hear too many details from my friend other than it did injure a camper in the attack.

Thanks, So then, I could keep one unloaded in my car just in case. Can't use it but I think getting attacked by a bear at camp would be an exception to the rule. However it won't help me while I am hiking :( I guess I'll have to take my chances.

I belive the bill to allow CCW in the park fell through the cracks, acording to another post on this forum a while back.

or what if that injunction is expired?

Alan Block
04-30-2009, 1:35 PM
applied to Yosemite since the law stated that it only applied where it was also legal in State parks.

drjake
04-30-2009, 4:58 PM
Traps, nets and unloaded weapons may be possessed within a
temporary

[[Page 20]]

lodging or mechanical mode of conveyance when such implements are
rendered temporarily inoperable or are packed, cased or stored in a
manner that will prevent their ready use.

Does this mean that as long it's unloaded it can be packed in a backpack, or ruck. As long as it's prevented from ready use right?

Timberline
04-30-2009, 5:29 PM
Anyone have a link to yosemite restrictions for guns. I have been googling but unable to find anything. I weas considering going there but my friend said he just got back and witnessed a bear attack a guy in one of the other camps near his.

FUD? A quick Google News search on "Yosemite Bear" turns up no mention of any attacks on humans. When there are "incidents" with bears, you see small reference to them, like Tpm Stienstra's article in the SF Chronicle: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/04/30/SP7K17A1BM.DTL

But if a Yosemite bear were to "attack a guy," it would get big headline coverage, count on it.

ravenbkp
05-01-2009, 7:22 AM
Be very careful the new federal rules probably do not change anything in California and past practice at Yosemite is they are pretty aggressive about this.
An acquaintance of mine spent a summer of weekends up there on a work crew...............disassembled in a locked case is ok if I recall, but putting it back together in your camp site might be pushing it.

bigcalidave
05-01-2009, 12:14 PM
Lol.. I've seen a "bear attack" every time I've been to Yosemite... (over 100?).. It's 100% the fault of the human. And I've never seen a bear go after a person, including dozens of times I've been surprised close enough to touch the bear. Bears in Yosemite are so calm around people it's amazing. If the bear attacked a guy, the guy was trying to get his FOOD back from the BEAR... Not the best idea !!!
What the hell do you need to shoot a bear for that you can scare off by clapping your hands? I've got no problem with wanting to carry, but in defense of tourists, not bears.