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nicki
04-30-2009, 12:31 PM
We need a easy process to deal with this "underground" and "bootleg regulations".

Fortunately, the Federal government actually has a working models that we should make a effort to use that model here in Califronia.:thumbsup:

First, the "Paperwork reduction act". The key is that all federal forms have to have a OMB control number in the upper right hand corner.

That control number has access to the source authority for the creation of the form. If a form has no OMB number, it is bootleg and has no force of law.

We could use the Fed model, but also incorporate Calgun improvements. This is something we could network with other groups to make this happen.

The Feds have something called the Administrative procedures act and all regulations have to be pubished in the Federal registrar. Perhaps a Cal equivalent, but with a online publication.

The big thing I would like to slip in is severe penalties for operating outside of the law, under pretend authority.

This could help us stop alot of abuse of power and is something we could build alliances with other groups on other issues.

Even groups who disagree with us would probably sign onto the government actually operating only under lawful authority.

It was the left that actually pushed things like the public records act.

Nicki

FABIO GETS GOOSED!!!
04-30-2009, 1:29 PM
The Feds have something called the Administrative procedures act and all regulations have to be pubished in the Federal registrar. Perhaps a Cal equivalent, but with a online publication.

Good idea, maybe a requirement that proposed regulations be published with opportunity for public comment, etc.

bwiese
04-30-2009, 1:45 PM
Nicki,

You're a tad off base... California regulatory process is a helluva lot better (tighter) than Federal.

We'd be at a significant loss if Federal regulatory standards were imposed on CA. GAC sec 11300 etc is a big help here.

Just because the opposition is intransigent, doesn't mean we won't win. You can't expect instant pushovers.

nicki
05-01-2009, 3:27 AM
Nicki,

You're a tad off base... California regulatory process is a helluva lot better (tighter) than Federal.

We'd be at a significant loss if Federal regulatory standards were imposed on CA. GAC sec 11300 etc is a big help here.

Just because the opposition is intransigent, doesn't mean we won't win. You can't expect instant pushovers.
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Bill,

I want the best protections we can have. The OMB number is something that is easy to understand, it is on every information collection form the FEDS have.

Having a control number on all forms with ready accessiblity to authority to create forms accessible by control numbers would make the government agencies more accountable.

We don't have that on California forms right now. Right now if the right people find out about mischief, things can be handled.

My concerns are the things that slip by.

Nicki