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1911OPPC
04-29-2009, 9:29 AM
I am asking what it takes to sell a military surplus M 1 carbine. I know tha tit is more than 50 years old so I believe it makes the C&R criteria, and without the original 15 round magazine, is legal for sale in CA.
Do I have to do paperwork through a FFL for the transaction?
Do I have to do any paperwork?
What is required of the buyer?
Thanks.

Heatseeker
04-29-2009, 9:53 AM
I believe it's a cash and carry deal. If the buyer is a 03 FFL, he would need your pedigree info(name,address,etc.)for his bound book. If you are a 03 holder, you would need the same from him for your bound book.

1911OPPC
04-29-2009, 11:35 AM
What if both parties are just regular guys, no FFL no 03 C&R,
What then?

freonr22
04-29-2009, 11:36 AM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=178403

here

locktime
04-29-2009, 11:53 AM
From the California Dept. of Justice website:

I want to sell a gun to another person, i.e., a private party transfer. Am I required to conduct the transaction through a licensed California firearms dealer?

Yes. Firearm sales must be conducted through a fully licensed California firearms dealer. Failure to do so is a violation of California law. The buyer (and seller, in the event that the; buyer is denied), must meet the normal firearm purchase and delivery requirements. "Antique firearms," as defined in Section 921(a)(16) of Title 18 of the United States Code, and curio or relic rifles/shotguns, defined in Section 178.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations that are over 50 years old, are exempt from this requirement.

CHS
04-29-2009, 11:56 AM
If the gun is more than 50 years old, and is not a handgun, simply meet the buyer some place, swap gun with cash, shake hands, and be on your merry way.

Fate
04-29-2009, 12:26 PM
If the gun is more than 50 years old, and is not a handgun, simply meet the buyer some place, swap gun with cash, shake hands, and be on your merry way.
That right there is one of the best feelings in the world, too! :thumbsup: Sweet Liberty.

mydogsmonkey
04-29-2009, 1:55 PM
That right there is one of the best feelings in the world, too! :thumbsup: Sweet Liberty.

very true, can't wait to get my first C&R for a FTF

1911OPPC
04-29-2009, 1:57 PM
BUt, what if the buyer is a felon. How am I to know?

FS00008
04-29-2009, 2:29 PM
You must take every reasonable measure to make sure that he or she isn't. If you really want CYA, get a copy of their CDL and a signed statement from them stating that they are not a felon...

CHS
04-29-2009, 2:44 PM
You must take every reasonable measure to make sure that he or she isn't. If you really want CYA, get a copy of their CDL and a signed statement from them stating that they are not a felon...

If you REALLY want to CYA, just do it as a normal gunstore PPT where a DROS (background check) will be run and a 10-day wait applies.

Legally however, you don't have to.

FS00008
04-29-2009, 11:15 PM
Oh well yea. But I meant short of that.