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radioburning
04-27-2009, 6:37 PM
I just saw an anti-Trutanich commercial on ch. 7.(6 p.m.) Typical fear invoking political mud slinger.

Edit: I found it on youtube for everyone to see...

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HowardW56
04-27-2009, 6:42 PM
I just saw an anti-Trutanich commercial on ch. 7.(6 p.m.) Typical fear invoking political mud slinger. It was saying how Trutanich is backed by the NRA, and how he doesn't want to take assault weapons away from gangbangers.:rolleyes:

It ended with "you might be outraged!"

That's funny, makes me want him in office even more...:cool:

It almost makes me wish I lived in Los Angeles so I could vote for him...

yellowfin
04-27-2009, 6:44 PM
Still that's the only thing Weiss can come up with?

Fate
04-27-2009, 7:00 PM
Still that's the only thing Weiss can come up with?
He really has nothing other than Tony V's backing.

junker87
04-27-2009, 7:20 PM
He's got two votes at least, me and my wife.

jumbopanda
04-27-2009, 7:22 PM
I saw it too. They said something about how he doesn't want to take guns away from gangbangers and whatnot. Typical anti-gun rhetoric.

bsim
04-27-2009, 7:28 PM
Huh, I thought they were already illegal for 'bangers.

But what do I know, I left LA county 8 years ago...

N6ATF
04-27-2009, 7:28 PM
Turn it around, Weiss is backed by the International Criminals Union (http://criminalsforguncontrol.com/) and wants to make sure only criminals have weapons.

lioneaglegriffin
04-27-2009, 7:36 PM
i like his ads better.

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lioneaglegriffin
04-27-2009, 7:38 PM
in other news

Trutanich withdraws from debates, claims Weiss is using 'smear tactics'
6:37 PM | April 24, 2009
Los Angeles city attorney candidate Carmen Trutanich has withdrawn from his planned Tuesday debate with City Councilman Jack Weiss. And all future debates, for that matter.

Former Los Angeles Planning Commission President Jane Usher, now a campaign volunteer for Trutanich, broke the news in an e-mail today to event sponsors Town Hall Los Angeles.


Usher said "the Weiss campaign has demeaned every joint appearance" made by the two candidates in the May 19 runoff election. "At each debate location, the focus has been diverted away from decency and the issues that voters care about. Instead, Weiss operatives have regaled the guests and us with staged antics and a stream of disruption from planted audience members. These theatrics have been the sole purpose of candidate Weiss and his campaign team. No more. We will no longer provide these moments for the Weiss troupe to practice its smear tactics."

Weiss campaign spokesman Ace Smith responded to the Trutanich withdrawal by echoing charges that his candidate has routinely made during debate appearances: "He's hiding from voters because he doesn't want them to know that Carmen Trutanich is on the payroll of the NRA, gun merchants and polluters."

Trutanich, a former assistant district attorney now in private practice, has a law partner who has represented gun groups. But Trutanich says he has not.

Usher wrote that the tipping point for Trutanich came at Wednesday's debate at the Westside Jewish Community Center. "The Weiss campaign erected a giant 25-foot rat directly in front of the Jewish center on Olympic Boulevard," Usher said. "The Weiss campaign's use of the rat outside of a prominent Jewish civic center, as part of a campaign stunt, was highly insensitive and disturbing."

The debate hosts that night, Usher said, "were never able to regain control."

"We will not appear at another public forum with Mr. Weiss," she said.

—William Nottingham


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/04/trutanich-withdraws-from-debates-claims-weiss-using-smear-tactics.html

Theseus
04-27-2009, 7:41 PM
I saw that same commercial and laughed. I wonder if we could get him to OC with us? Probably not huh? He might be able to use it. . . See! The NRA doesn't approve of this!!!!

radioburning
04-27-2009, 7:59 PM
Just found this...

http://www.contracostatimes.com/california/ci_12238149

L.A. Sheriff Baca withdraws endorsement of Jack Weiss

Sheriff Lee Baca today withdrew his endorsement of City Councilman Jack Weiss in the May 19 election for city attorney, saying he was upset with the candidate's negative TV commercials.

"I can no longer remain silent about the reckless disregard for the truth that Jack Weiss has brought to this race," Baca said in a statement. "Mr. Weiss' latest television commercial is desperate and an insult to the principles of the American legal system, our Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

lioneaglegriffin
04-27-2009, 8:00 PM
Just found this...

http://www.contracostatimes.com/california/ci_12238149

L.A. Sheriff Baca withdraws endorsement of Jack Weiss


:jump:

762cavalier
04-27-2009, 8:06 PM
"I can no longer remain silent about the reckless disregard for the truth that Jack Weiss has brought to this race," Baca said in a statement. "Mr. Weiss' latest television commercial is desperate and an insult to the principles of the American legal system, our Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

WOW:eek: You know the guys out in left field when Baca is saying this about him.

N6ATF
04-27-2009, 8:08 PM
"Mr. Weiss' latest television commercial is desperate and an insult to the principles of the American legal system, our Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Like he gives a flying fig about any of those! :mad:

sorensen440
04-27-2009, 8:12 PM
so what are the polls saying about who is ahead right now ?
do we know ?

lioneaglegriffin
04-27-2009, 8:20 PM
last poll i got from trutanch campaign, but its outdated now.

http://www.tru09.com/download/Trutanich%20memo-1.pdf?utm_source=MailingList&utm_medium=email&utm_content=LIONEAGLEGRIFFIN%40AOL.COM&utm_campaign=New+Poll+Shows+Trutanich+Surging+in+t he+City+Attorney+Race

Legasat
04-27-2009, 10:16 PM
The really sad part is, some of "the masses" buy into these fear-mongering tactics. They don't/won't read, and believe everything they see on TV.

Sheeple...

glockwise2000
04-27-2009, 10:18 PM
He's got two votes at least, me and my wife.


Add my family. He got 14 votes from us here in the big ol' SFV.

Joe
04-27-2009, 10:20 PM
Take guns from criminals? lol, If by criminals they mean noncriminals then I'd believe em.

Dr Rockso
04-27-2009, 10:24 PM
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Considering most campaign commercials look like high school video productions projects, that one is pretty impressive.

CCWFacts
04-27-2009, 10:59 PM
That ad is a cheap cheap shot. Of course defense attorneys defend criminals. Criminals have a right to a competent defense to help them get the best outcome they can get within the system. That's what they do, and it's a great thing that criminals have a right to a fair trial and a vigorous legal defense within our system.

lioneaglegriffin
04-28-2009, 1:09 AM
dont forget to donate!

https://donate.tru09.com/

lioneaglegriffin
04-28-2009, 1:27 AM
in todays paper
Attacks intensify in L.A. city attorney race
Irfan Khan / Los Angeles Times
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-city-attorney28-2009apr28,0,2022565.story

Attorney Carmen Trutanich points at his rival, Councilman Jack Weiss, at Hollywood City Hall during their first runoff debate.
New ads by Councilman Jack Weiss accuse attorney Carmen Trutanich of defending environmental polluters. They cost Weiss the backing of L.A. County Sheriff Lee Baca.
By Maeve Reston
April 28, 2009
With nursery rhyme characters, giant inflatable rats and "high noon" debate challenges, it's getting hard to quibble with those who complain that the tone of the Los Angeles city attorney's race has gotten downright sophomoric.

After a series of shrill debates and two new negative campaign advertisements from Jack Weiss airing over the weekend, Jaime A. Regalado, executive director of the Edmund G. "Pat" Brown Institute of Public Affairs, said the race between the Westside councilman and defense attorney Carmen Trutanich has become "an avalanche of negative campaigning on both sides" -- and predicted that it will get more combative in the three weeks before the May 19 election.

"Usually there's a buildup to the negative, but right off the bat in the primaries they were locking horns and seeming to try to outdo each other," Regalado said. "The hope is to so damage the other person's credibility that that person's positions on the issues, or record on the issues, won't matter much."

Cal State Fullerton political science professor Raphael J. Sonenshein noted that it has been in each candidate's interest "to make the race a referendum on the other."

"With one candidate [Trutanich] who is unknown -- whose record could be made an issue -- and another candidate [Weiss] who is a bit of lightning rod," Sonenshein said, alluding to the failed 2007 effort to recall Weiss by constituents who said he was too quick to side with developers, "it's a recipe for a slugfest."


That slugfest began earlier this year but has intensified. In the primary, as Weiss ratcheted up his criticisms of the gun groups and environmental clients represented by Trutanich's law firm, some voters opened their mailboxes to find ads with Weiss' head superimposed on a puppy seated on the lap of his campaign chairman, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.

A different mailer -- depicting Weiss as various characters in Mother Goose -- impugned the councilman for accepting contributions from developers and noted that he was fined by the Los Angeles Ethics Commission for failing to disclose several mass mailings in the 2001 election.

When the runoff debates began, representatives from the painters' union -- which has endorsed Weiss -- began arriving at debates with a 16-foot inflatable rat to accuse Trutanich of being a union buster, which the San Pedro attorney's aides say is a manufactured charge.

And after a torrent of boos and jeers at last week's debate at the Westside Jewish Community Center, the moderator all but threw up her hands when the audience refused to settle down, leading the Trutanich campaign to announce that he would no longer appear with Weiss because of "staged antics and a stream of disruptions from planted audience members."

On Monday, Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca, who had endorsed both candidates but appeared in commercials for Trutanich, withdrew his support of Weiss.

In an interview from Germany, where he was attending a conference, Baca said Weiss crossed the line with his new ads, which question Trutanich's representation of companies accused of environmental pollution, several USC athletes accused of sexual assaults and a client arrested on gun possession charges that were ultimately reduced to a misdemeanor.

"The people who are not supporting Mr. Weiss are not going to be emboldened and turned around by these ads -- they're going to have another reason to say, 'There he goes again,' " said Baca, who said the ads should raise questions about Weiss' ability to be fair as city attorney. "I just think he could have taken a higher road. . . . It does smack to me of desperate politics."

Bill Carter, former chief of environmental crimes for the U.S. attorney's office's Central District, supervised Weiss when the councilman was a federal prosecutor but is backing Trutanich for city attorney. Carter said Weiss was making "a ludicrous argument" by painting Trutanich with the crimes of some of his clients. "Anyone who understands our legal system understands the important role that attorneys play in providing assistance to clients," he said.

Weiss' ads allege that Trutanich "represented some of the worst polluters in Los Angeles, which is not true. And the reason I know it's not true, I've personally prosecuted some of the largest polluters in Los Angeles," Carter said. He also noted that Weiss has taken campaign contributions from firms that have defended companies accused of environmental pollution. The argument, Carter said, "can be turned on him very easily."

Weiss' campaign put out a lengthy memo listing the Trutanich cases referenced in the ad, and his campaign consultant Ace Smith accused Trutanich of "chickening out" by refusing future debates. Challenging Baca to debate Weiss in his stead, Smith said: "We'll meet Sheriff Baca at high noon."

"If you're running away from the people of L.A. because you can't explain why you represent gun companies and polluters, you shouldn't be running for office," Smith said of Trutanich.

While both candidates risk turning off voters with negativity, Sonenshein noted that they are competing for a sliver of voters in an election that is "likely to be very low turnout."

nick
04-28-2009, 2:33 AM
Well, those of us in L.A. need to make sure they vote. This is probably the only reason I'd wish I lived in L.A. Projected low turnout means every vote will actually count, and you can be sure that the unions supporting Weiss will MAKE their members vote.

cousinkix1953
04-28-2009, 3:42 AM
I saw it too. They said something about how he doesn't want to take guns away from gangbangers and whatnot. Typical anti-gun rhetoric.
Antonio Villiargoso doesn't want to enforce federal gun control laws. Jamiel Shaw is dead; because they didn't call ICE, when an illegal alien was arrested with an illegal gun the first time. A liberal mush head judge turned a gang banger loose, to purchase a second illegal gun. Then he killed a football player. It's time to send that damned radical LAPD chief back to Boston where belongs...

eflatminor
04-28-2009, 9:07 AM
I urge anyone to knows someone who lives in LA to call them and beg them to vote for Trutanich. This is going to be a very close race.

lomalinda
04-28-2009, 9:54 AM
To show support, call the Trutanich HQ for pins/bumperstickers:

8183087400, ask for Linda.

Gryff
04-28-2009, 2:27 PM
"TruthAboutTru" believes so strongly in his videos that he's disabled comments.

B Strong
04-28-2009, 6:39 PM
He sounds like a effective attorney to me.

Wish I lived down south, I'd vote early and often.

lioneaglegriffin
04-28-2009, 7:05 PM
"TruthAboutTru" believes so strongly in his videos that he's disabled comments.

i love this one
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and here's the ad this thread is based i think.

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lomalinda
04-28-2009, 7:10 PM
They quote the Brady Campaign as if it's the gospel.

LOL, again.

lioneaglegriffin
04-28-2009, 7:28 PM
They quote the Brady Campaign as if it's the gospel.

LOL, again.

which is why commenting is disabled.

eflatminor
04-28-2009, 7:56 PM
Guys, I spent the afternoon at the Trutanich headquarters in Studio City. I came in to volunteer. It took about 2 seconds before they put me to work. The news (NBC 4) came in to interview Trutanich. I worked on the yard signs. There are hundreds of them. Come get a few and stick in the ground somewhere. The uniformed often vote based on a name they recognize. Let's tickle some brains out there.

Rhys898
04-28-2009, 8:03 PM
I wish I lived in LA City so I could vote on this, but I'm about 7 miles to far north. I did send a message through youtube telling truthabouttru what a retard he was.

nrakid88
04-28-2009, 8:23 PM
Is this election just LA city or is it LA county too?

lioneaglegriffin
04-28-2009, 8:29 PM
Is this election just LA city or is it LA county too?

i believe its within city limits the only things the county votes on are Supervisors and Sheriffs IIRC.