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One Shot, One Dropped
04-25-2009, 9:31 PM
So, I have a few .22lr guns that I like to shoot, and since the ammo is incredibly cheap either way, I choose to run only the best ammo through them. I have always just bought CCI Mini-Mags for them and never had a problem, but I was wondering if there is any better ammo out there (I'm pretty clueless about it).

Anyways, if it helps, there is a GSG-5, AR-22, Kimber Target (1911), Mosquito, 597TVP, S&W617.

BamBam-31
04-25-2009, 9:42 PM
Lapua and Eley make very accurate (and pricey) .22lr ammo.

Here's Eley Tenex for $170/brick: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=140858

and here's Lapua X-act for $290/brick: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=960276

I'd stick w/ the more moderately priced Wolf and CCI ammo, however, unless you're shooting some Italian-made Olympic bullseye gun.

mister dize
04-25-2009, 10:03 PM
The most expensive .22 I've ever bought is CCI. For me, the "best" .22 ammo is the one that my 10/22 will feed reliably and that can hit a tin can at 50 yards. Can't beat winchester white box in that regard.

Thefeeder
04-25-2009, 10:05 PM
Try some Ely Match Extra, Ely Silhouette, Federal Gold Match, Ely Club.

1911 gone wild
04-25-2009, 10:23 PM
Each firearm will have its own particular taste in which ammo it likes. You might want to buy multi brand, and different price point within each brand, to try out. Start with the lower priced, and work your way up to the expensive match grade ammo. You will start to see when each firearm, will come to a point where it will not shoot the top grade ammo any better, then its lower priced stuff.

Eley: Standard, Target, Club Xtra, Match, Ten X.
Lapua: SK Standard Plus, Rifle Match, Match, Center X, Midas, X act. etc.
RWS: Target Rifle, Match, R-50.

domokun
04-26-2009, 1:09 AM
What about Wolf Match .22LR? I thought it was Eley primed?

Jonathan Doe
04-26-2009, 6:46 AM
I shot SK Standard Plus yesterday through my Anschutz 1907 rifle. I shot 5 shots into one hole at 50 yards. It is a good ammo at a reasonabla price.

brassburnz
04-26-2009, 7:00 AM
Eley makes the best .22 ammo with respect to consistency and quality control, but your guns probably aren't capable of shooting better than the ammo.

Every .22 is different and since you can't handload a .22 rimfire, you've got to try different loads. International and Olympic level shooters even want to test different lots of the same ammo because some runs are better than others for their guns.

Wolf Match Target is made in Germany using Eley priming compound. It has a unique smell. When I shoot it, people think I'm shooting the high end Eley stuff. It's great ammo when you can find it. It's the same stuff as SK but in a different package.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=524473&t=11082005

j1133s
04-26-2009, 7:16 AM
For the 22, I generally use ammo that's accurate enough for the job to save money so I've not tested many of the very expensive ones. But here's what I've found using after some testing (pretty much tested all the mid-priced ones).

So far, Eley Tenex works the best in my 22 pistols, better than the CCI Pistol Matc that I normally use. However, it is about 2x more expensive, so I only use it at larger matches when shooting bullseye.

RWS R-50 works the best in my rifles, but again, I normally use RWS Target Rifle due to cost. Since I only shoot smallbore silhouette fortunately, the Target Rifle is good enough here. (Interestingly, Target Rifle works well in my pistols too, but not as accurate as CCI Pistol Match).

BTW, if you like CCI mini-mags (which I don't consider accurate), you'll probably love theabove.

fairfaxjim
04-26-2009, 5:41 PM
I really like the Aguila Super Maximum .22lr ammo. The problem is the price has pretty much doubled, and it is hard to justify the cost.

Teletiger7
04-26-2009, 5:56 PM
Which ever one your rifle shoots best.

mvpatriot
04-26-2009, 6:00 PM
expensive 22lr = oxymoron

jman11
04-26-2009, 8:35 PM
wow... some of that stuff is EXPENSIVE!

ErikTheRed
04-26-2009, 9:13 PM
I really like the Aguila Super Maximum .22lr ammo.

A friend of mine gave me a bunch of this stuff, a couple of 500 rd boxes and a handful of 50 rd boxes. This afternoon we went shooting and I took my 10/22 to try out the new extractor, so I grabbed what I had of the 50 rd boxes of Aguila. Well, the extractor worked fantastic, but that Mexican ammo didn't even have enough ooomph to cycle the bolt on my Ruger. Sounded like a spring-loaded pellet gun. I don't know how old this ammo is, or how it was stored, but its only good for a bolt-action. Rem Goldens and Wildcats shot excellent.

Timberwolf
04-26-2009, 9:19 PM
Which ever one your rifle shoots best.

Hit that one square center . . . 22 rifles are a breed unto there own and are quirky compared to their big brothers. The simpliest answer is which ever bullet and brand your rifle likes. Get a box of several and shoot away. I blew through many 50 rd boxes of many different brands and flavours etc before I settled on what my rifle liked the best at all ranges.

Hot Brass
04-27-2009, 7:20 AM
Wolf Match. If you can find it.

Jonathan Doe
04-27-2009, 7:33 AM
expensive 22lr = oxymoron

How about Lapua X-act or Eley Tennex??? Some of them are over $25.00 per box of 50.

fairfaxjim
04-27-2009, 8:17 AM
A friend of mine gave me a bunch of this stuff, a couple of 500 rd boxes and a handful of 50 rd boxes. This afternoon we went shooting and I took my 10/22 to try out the new extractor, so I grabbed what I had of the 50 rd boxes of Aguila. Well, the extractor worked fantastic, but that Mexican ammo didn't even have enough ooomph to cycle the bolt on my Ruger. Sounded like a spring-loaded pellet gun. I don't know how old this ammo is, or how it was stored, but its only good for a bolt-action. Rem Goldens and Wildcats shot excellent.

Check to make sure you don't have the Aguila "Sub Sonic" or "Super Colibri" ammo. The Sub Sonic is a 60gr. bullet at low speed to operate quiet, and the Super Colibri has no powder, it depends on primer only to push a very light 20gr. bullet at 500 fps with no noise. The sub sonic will often not cycle a semi-auto rifle, and the super colibri is for use in handguns only, and will definitely not cycle anything.

The one's I like are the Super Maximum, 30gr. bullet, avail. in either solid or HP, and have a rated muzzle velocity of 1750 fps. I have never had a problem with them cycling anything. In fact they do about the best in running my Mini-14 .22lr conversion. Most .22lr does not have the power to cock the Mini's hammer with the light .22lr bolt, resulting in an intersting full auto until the thing jams situation.

BTW, anybody interested in buying a Ciener Mini-14 .22lr conversion? :)

ErikTheRed
04-27-2009, 1:33 PM
The Aguila .22 I used yesterday is "Super Extra" subsonic, or as it says on the box, "22 largo rifle subsonico". It fires a 38 gr bullet and the box markings are purple-ish pink.

The stuff I have in the 500 rd boxes is also "Super Extra" but is standard velocity, fires a 40 gr bullet, and the box markings are blue. I haven't shot this stuff yet.

Neither box gives any FPS ratings.

fairfaxjim
04-28-2009, 9:15 AM
The Aguila .22 I used yesterday is "Super Extra" subsonic, or as it says on the box, "22 largo rifle subsonico". It fires a 38 gr bullet and the box markings are purple-ish pink.

The stuff I have in the 500 rd boxes is also "Super Extra" but is standard velocity, fires a 40 gr bullet, and the box markings are blue. I haven't shot this stuff yet.

Neither box gives any FPS ratings.

Aguila has all sorts of stuff out there, I think some is still available some places, but no longer produced. The Super Extra subsonic is 1025 fps, and won't reliably cycle a semi-auto. The Colibri and Super Colibri have no powder, use primer only with 20 gr. bullets at 375 fps and 500 fps respectively. They are to be used in handguns only - they may not clear a rifle barrel, and will not cycle a semi-auto. I believe the Super Extra Standard Velocity is either 1135 fps or 1250 fps, and will behave pretty much the same as most standard .22lr.

maxicon
04-28-2009, 11:25 AM
I buy a few bricks or more of whatever .22 shows up at good prices. With an assortment of .22s, one of them's bound to like it pretty well, and with a .22 revolver, you know you'll be able to shoot it up.

For guaranteeing quality, reliability and testing for the best groups, I buy MiniMags and SK Standard Plus now and again, but most of my ammo is whatever's inexpensive.

I've never had any go to waste yet.

ErikTheRed
04-28-2009, 1:51 PM
Both my brother and my dad have bolt-action .22's, so none of this stuff will go to waste.

Seesm
04-28-2009, 6:23 PM
the cheapest for me is hero :)

X-NewYawker
04-28-2009, 7:38 PM
Try some Ely Match Extra, Ely Silhouette, Federal Gold Match, Ely Club.

and RWS R-50. That stuff can SHOOT! (believe me, you shoot better when you know what the ammo costs -- no praying and spraying! )

ar15barrels
05-01-2009, 8:31 PM
What about Wolf Match .22LR? I thought it was Eley primed?

Wolf Match is made by Lapua.
Good stuff for sure.

Wolf Match Target is also sold as SK Standard Plus.
Wolf Match Extra is also sold as SK Match.

At about $4.50 a box, Wolf Match Target is a very good value, especially if your guns like it.
My 10-22 likes it.

http://ar15barrels.com/gfx/22targets.jpg

luchador768
05-01-2009, 8:54 PM
My heavy barrel 10/22 really likes CCI Stingers.

ar15barrels
05-01-2009, 10:25 PM
My heavy barrel 10/22 really likes CCI Stingers.

group sizes at 50yds?

crazyfinn
05-02-2009, 6:41 AM
I'm a little new but for target so far I like the Wolf Match Target as well.

maxicon
05-02-2009, 8:01 AM
Wolf Match is made by Lapua.
Good stuff for sure.

Wolf Match Target is also sold as SK Standard Plus.
Wolf Match Extra is also sold as SK Match.

At about $4.50 a box, Wolf Match Target is a very good value, especially if your guns like it.
My 10-22 likes it.


Yeah, SK Standard Plus is the best value I've found in precision ammo, especially for those of us who don't compete in matches. I use it as my accuracy testing ammo. Once I get a rifle or pistol dialed in with other ammo, I benchrest some groups with the SK to see what the gun's capable of.

It won't always cycle reliably in every gun, but it'll still show good groups. Guns like the Mosquito or P22 don't show any difference between SK or Remington Golden, so that tells me I can shoot the cheap stuff and not worry about whether it's me or the gun. More accurate guns will tighten up the groups nicely with the SK.

97F1504RAD
05-02-2009, 8:24 AM
Can anyone tell me how good or bad the Remington Yellow Jacket ammo is?

FeuerFrei
05-02-2009, 8:53 AM
Aguila 40 gr. subsonic RN
Remington 38 gr. subsonic HP
CCI 40 gr. subsonic HP
-10/22 and P22- like them all. (my experience)
If you have never tried subsonics you owe it to yourself to get some samples and see the difference in accuracy.
I use all three of these and they never disappoint.
Semi-auto fans will need to pay attention to cleaning and lubrication protocol.
Remember that rimfire weapons/mags require less gunk to clog them up.

FYI: Zombies can't hear them coming! ;)