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OrangeCountyCCW
04-20-2009, 10:36 PM
BREAKING NEWS: The Republican Party of Orange County Central Committee, on a vote of 41 to 14, approved a slightly modified resolution tonight "opposing" appointed Sheriff Hutchens' CCW policy and expressing support for AB 357, which would make California a "shall issue" state.

The original resolution, approved 7-0 by the Resolutions Committee, would have expressed "no confidence" in Hutchens' CCW policy. Committee Member Anna Bryson moved to replace the resolution with a strongly watered-down version. This attempt failed when a motion to table Ms. Bryson's replacement carried. Party Chairman Scott Baugh then moved to amend the original resolution to delete seven words including the "no confidence" language, replacing them with the single word, "oppose." After much debate, Chairman Baugh's amendment carried, and then the resolution as amended was approved 41 to 14.

Numerous Committee members spoke in favor of and against the resolution. Member Bruce Whitaker, who spearheaded the original resolution in the Resolutions Committee, spoke passionately in favor of it, while Member Don Daucher, a law professor, argued against.

Assistant Sheriff Jack Anderson vehemently defended appointed Sheriff Hutchens' policy -- even to the point of likening Hutchens' to "Lady Justice" and saying that appeals to the Second Amendment, while they might make one feel "warm like Pat Nixon's wool coat" were really "the cloak of Darth Vader." (Direct quotes.) Anderson hypocritically discussed the internal workings of the Sheriff's Department when it suited his comments, and then barked loudly when a Committee Member mentioned his status as Assistant Sheriff, "I am NOT here as Assistant Sheriff tonight but as a member of this body!" When one speaker mentioned that a Federal Flight Deck Officer had his CCW permit restricted by Hutchens, Anderson proudly related that the pilot's license had been subjected to limiting terms allowing him to carry only to and from his employment -- as if this was something to be commended. (One wonders why, in the minds of Hutchens and Anderson, a pilot is trusted to carry a firearm to and from the airport, but magically becomes untrustworthy and unsafe when going to the bank, grocery store or office.) As his final comment, Anderson directly attacked supporters of CCW in broad and accusatory terms, telling the Committee, "you are being gamed" and claiming that the resolution was the work of a small group of agitators "angry that they no longer have influence with the Department." Anderson even claimed that CCW supporters "have a candidate in their pocket -- Mike Schroeder met with that candidate last week" -- as if groundswell and outcry against Hutchens' arbitrary restriction of CCW could not possibly be the result of honest concern for personal safety and freedom.

The Committee, thankfully, was not swayed by Anderson's remarks, and overwhelmingly expressed opposition to Hutchens' CCW policies. Supporters of CCW were out in force at the meeting, while our appointed Sheriff was not present. Conversations with staffers revealed that while several elected officials on the Committee received phone calls urging them to vote in favor of the resolution, the only written communication by a pro-CCW group they received was the letter sent by the SAFE OC political action committee.

Tonight's resolution marks a victory in the fight against Hutchens' restrictive CCW policy, but it is only the beginning. As tonight's debate showed, many in the Orange County Republican Party support Hutchens and misunderstand the import of CCW. Much work remains to be done to educate elected officials and the public, bring this issue before the County's political organizations, build a base of support for Hutchens' ouster, and identify and support an alternative candidate for Sheriff who will make a written pledge to restore liberal CCW issuance in Orange County.

OCCCWS
04-20-2009, 10:52 PM
Nice try. Sorry, but the record has to be set straight here.

OCCCWS contacted EVERY member of the GOP Central Committee, as well as over 400 elected and appointed officials in Orange County, providing each with information packets highlighting Sheriff Hutchens' suspect ativities. The CCW supporters at the OC GOP meeting tonight were, by a wide margin, people who have assisted and supported OCCCWS.

This should not be an issue we spend time trying to claim credit for, but there comes a point when those who make claims not supported by facts need to be corrected.

OCCCWS has been working this issue from before Hutchens' appointment, and we will continue to.

Conversations with staffers revealed that while several elected officials on the Committee received phone calls urging them to vote in favor of the resolution, the only written communication by a pro-CCW group they received was the letter sent by the SAFE OC political action committee.

RomanDad
04-21-2009, 5:13 AM
Nice try. Sorry, but the record has to be set straight here.

OCCCWS contacted EVERY member of the GOP Central Committee, as well as over 400 elected and appointed officials in Orange County, providing each with information packets highlighting Sheriff Hutchens' suspect ativities. The CCW supporters at the OC GOP meeting tonight were, by a wide margin, people who have assisted and supported OCCCWS.

This should not be an issue we spend time trying to claim credit for, but there comes a point when those who make claims not supported by facts need to be corrected.

OCCCWS has been working this issue from before Hutchens' appointment, and we will continue to.

That is correct. OCCCWS did not send just "letters". In the year now that we have been actively working on this issue, one of the matters of business we recently attended to was to send out entire information packages regarding the Sheriff's new CCW policy, to those holding public office in Orange County including the members of the Central Committee who ultimately brought this issue to the floor in the wake of that information.

Also, having attended the meeting, the OCCCWS people filled a large portion of the room, and several asked "Where is SafeOC? We thought they might be here?"

And finally, the two people from the public at large who spoke at the Resolutions Committee in favor of the resolution, thus the ONLY members of the general public allowed to speak on this issue in any regard, were founding OCCCWS members.

OrangeCountyCCW
04-21-2009, 7:50 AM
I'm glad to hear it. I hope the staffers' comments that I received, then, were isolated and that your information packets did in fact make it to the majority of the officials you sent them to.

SAFE OC was indeed present at last night's meeting, hence the detailed write-up. Given the fact that the motion(s) were vigorously debated and that it is apparent that many on the Committee support Hutchens' actions, there is far more work to do in the months to come.

U2BassAce
04-21-2009, 8:35 AM
BREAKING NEWS: The Republican Party of Orange County Central Committee, on a vote of 41 to 14, approved a slightly modified resolution tonight "opposing" appointed Sheriff Hutchens' CCW policy and expressing support for AB 357, which would make California a "shall issue" state.

The original resolution, approved 7-0 by the Resolutions Committee, would have expressed "no confidence" in Hutchens' CCW policy. Committee Member Anna Bryson moved to replace the resolution with a strongly watered-down version. This attempt failed when a motion to table Ms. Bryson's replacement carried. Party Chairman Scott Baugh then moved to amend the original resolution to delete seven words including the "no confidence" language, replacing them with the single word, "oppose." After much debate, Chairman Baugh's amendment carried, and then the resolution as amended was approved 41 to 14.

Numerous Committee members spoke in favor of and against the resolution. Member Bruce Whitaker, who spearheaded the original resolution in the Resolutions Committee, spoke passionately in favor of it, while Member Don Daucher, a law professor, argued against.

Assistant Sheriff Jack Anderson vehemently defended appointed Sheriff Hutchens' policy -- even to the point of likening Hutchens' to "Lady Justice" and saying that appeals to the Second Amendment, while they might make one feel "warm like Pat Nixon's wool coat" were really "the cloak of Darth Vader." (Direct quotes.) Anderson hypocritically discussed the internal workings of the Sheriff's Department when it suited his comments, and then barked loudly when a Committee Member mentioned his status as Assistant Sheriff, "I am NOT here as Assistant Sheriff tonight but as a member of this body!" When one speaker mentioned that a Federal Flight Deck Officer had his CCW permit restricted by Hutchens, Anderson proudly related that the pilot's license had been subjected to limiting terms allowing him to carry only to and from his employment -- as if this was something to be commended. (One wonders why, in the minds of Hutchens and Anderson, a pilot is trusted to carry a firearm to and from the airport, but magically becomes untrustworthy and unsafe when going to the bank, grocery store or office.) As his final comment, Anderson directly attacked supporters of CCW in broad and accusatory terms, telling the Committee, "you are being gamed" and claiming that the resolution was the work of a small group of agitators "angry that they no longer have influence with the Department." Anderson even claimed that CCW supporters "have a candidate in their pocket -- Mike Schroeder met with that candidate last week" -- as if groundswell and outcry against Hutchens' arbitrary restriction of CCW could not possibly be the result of honest concern for personal safety and freedom.

The Committee, thankfully, was not swayed by Anderson's remarks, and overwhelmingly expressed opposition to Hutchens' CCW policies. Supporters of CCW were out in force at the meeting, while our appointed Sheriff was not present. Conversations with staffers revealed that while several elected officials on the Committee received phone calls urging them to vote in favor of the resolution, the only written communication by a pro-CCW group they received was the letter sent by the SAFE OC political action committee.

Tonight's resolution marks a victory in the fight against Hutchens' restrictive CCW policy, but it is only the beginning. As tonight's debate showed, many in the Orange County Republican Party support Hutchens and misunderstand the import of CCW. Much work remains to be done to educate elected officials and the public, bring this issue before the County's political organizations, build a base of support for Hutchens' ouster, and identify and support an alternative candidate for Sheriff who will make a written pledge to restore liberal CCW issuance in Orange County.

Are you kidding me? :TFH::rolleyes:

Yeah that is BS. I still have paper cuts from helping stuff (6 weeks ago) 400 plus 10X13 envelopes full of vital information that went out on behalf of www.OCCCWS.com and the Orange County CCW movement!

Mine and others volunteering for OCCCWS email out boxes are full of emails that went out. Would you like my phone records of my calls too? Oh and yes there were 5 rows of people in attendance wearing OCCCWS buttons at the meeting last night.

the only written communication by a pro-CCW group they received was the letter sent by the SAFE OC political action committee.

I don't get your point in making this statement?

Why don't you just market your new PAC on it's own merits? It is getting old reading your little digs towards other's efforts over and over again!

smokinskul
04-21-2009, 8:42 AM
Lets save the fight for the ones against us! Arent both of you fighting for the same cause? Its not about who gets the credit, its about the outcome isnt it?