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o22cool
04-20-2009, 7:12 PM
On the tenth anniversary of the deadly high school shootings in Columbine, Colo., California lawmakers announced new efforts to keep guns and ammunition away from people who are barred from possessing those items.

Assemblyman Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, is backing a bill to require people who sell handgun ammunition to be licensed. It would also require sellers to conduct business face-to-face, bar Internet or mail order sales and require a thumbprint and other identifying information of people who buy ammunition.

That information would be given to state officials who could check it against the rolls of people who are barred from possessing ammunition. Sacramento currently enforces such limitations and the chief of police said Monday that 50 people have been arrested since the rules took effect in January 2008.

De Leon said the bill would close "dangerous loopholes" in California law. A similar bill that aimed to stop sales of ammunition to prohibited people died in the state Senate last year.

Another bill, introduced by Assemblyman Paul Krekorian, D-Burbank, would establish a new procedure for people who are barred from possessing guns to relinquish those weapons.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=38784&tsp=1

SwissFluCase
04-20-2009, 7:14 PM
No mention of Nordyke, either.

Regards,


SwissFluCase

wilit
04-20-2009, 7:14 PM
They're going to be a whole lot less likely to withstand a challenge in court if they do pass.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=175296

JoeC
04-20-2009, 7:14 PM
Another bill, introduced by Assemblyman Paul Krekorian, D-Burbank, would establish a new procedure for people who are barred from possessing guns to relinquish those weapons.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=38784&tsp=1

Well crap. I guess all you gang members and criminals better give up your guns. It's the law now.

glockman19
04-20-2009, 7:18 PM
DeLeon's bill learly is Unconstitutional under the 2A. Thannk You Nordyke.

Futurecollector
04-20-2009, 7:20 PM
What do they consider a loop hole?

DRM6000
04-20-2009, 7:22 PM
there is no loop hole. i believe it's just another anti-gunner's buzz word to drum up support.

CSDGuy
04-20-2009, 7:24 PM
What do they consider a loop hole?
Their definition of "Loop Hole" is anything in the law that allows the legal sale/transfer of a firearm.

1BigPea
04-20-2009, 7:25 PM
Loop Hole is what a criminal with a gun jumps through. :rolleyes:

RRangel
04-20-2009, 8:12 PM
What do they consider a loop hole?

Oh, your freedom.

air soft rules!
04-20-2009, 8:24 PM
a loop hole is what lawmakers use to circumvent the constitution.

RRangel
04-20-2009, 8:33 PM
On the tenth anniversary of the deadly high school shootings in Columbine, Colo., California lawmakers announced new efforts to keep guns and ammunition away from people who are barred from possessing those items.

Assemblyman Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, is backing a bill to require people who sell handgun ammunition to be licensed. It would also require sellers to conduct business face-to-face, bar Internet or mail order sales and require a thumbprint and other identifying information of people who buy ammunition.

That information would be given to state officials who could check it against the rolls of people who are barred from possessing ammunition. Sacramento currently enforces such limitations and the chief of police said Monday that 50 people have been arrested since the rules took effect in January 2008.

De Leon said the bill would close "dangerous loopholes" in California law. A similar bill that aimed to stop sales of ammunition to prohibited people died in the state Senate last year.

Another bill, introduced by Assemblyman Paul Krekorian, D-Burbank, would establish a new procedure for people who are barred from possessing guns to relinquish those weapons.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=38784&tsp=1

De Leon is a liar. He needs to distort facts and use Brady terms like "loophole" to convince the ignorant to allow his onerous bill. Just another holier than thou gun grabber who probably couldn't give a rip less about you or me. He's another of the typical politicians in southern California who rely on total apathy and low voter turnout to hold public office.

bulgron
04-20-2009, 8:44 PM
Hopefully the state's dire budget mess will cause DeLeon's bill to get shot down again ... for the third session in a row.

copenhagen269
04-20-2009, 8:59 PM
Their definition of "Loop Hole" is anything in the law that allows the legal sale/transfer of a firearm.

Well said :thumbsup:

dexter9659
04-21-2009, 12:35 AM
Considering Co Co County is firing many of its Deputy DAs and not prosecuting GTA, Red light violations, Wreckless endangerment... not to mention the increased minimum required to prosecute for illegal drug possession, im thinking the state has more pressing matters to worry about than passing another useless costly bill.

bwiese
04-21-2009, 12:50 AM
From now on, every CA antigun bill will include wording to the effect,

"Bill's passage will result in unknown and likely large costs due not
only to funding of arrests/incarceration, but expected litigation
challenging this law based on Nordyke incorporation of the Second
Amendment and the applicability of the Second Amendment within
California."

glockwise2000
04-21-2009, 12:55 AM
Hopefully the state's dire budget mess will cause DeLeon's bill to get shot down again ... for the third session in a row.

Well said :thumbsup:

glockwise2000
04-21-2009, 12:56 AM
From now on, every CA antigun bill will include wording to the effect,

"Bill's passage will result in unknown and likely large costs due not
only to funding of arrests/incarceration, but expected litigation
challenging this law based on Nordyke incorporation of the Second
Amendment and the applicability of the Second Amendment within
California."

Now those anti-gun mofo's could shut up.

cousinkix1953
04-21-2009, 2:00 AM
De Leon is a liar. He needs to distort facts and use Brady terms like "loophole" to convince the ignorant to allow his onerous bill. Just another holier than thou gun grabber who probably couldn't give a rip less about you or me. He's another of the typical politicians in southern California who rely on total apathy and low voter turnout to hold public office.
Morons like him get elected because illegal aliens vote in Kommiefornia. Those same stupid politicians will provide them with a drivers' license; so they can register, and cast their ballots for the Brady Bunch's anti-gun candidates.

Next they will be buying their illegal guns in the FFL stores with that acceoptable Kommiefornia license or ID card. They can't do it with a piece of plastic issued by the Mexican government! To hell a federal law against this kind of gun sales. They won't be able to enforce that law any more either.

Gun dealers are to blame if one of those illegal gang bangers slips through the cracks and commits a gun crime. The feds shutdown Stewart's Sporting Goods in Watsonville in 1982. An illegal alien managed to get a valid Kommiefornia driver's license. He purchased a handgun from this FFL dealer and was caught robbing a store a few blocks away.

Your college educated idiot reporters don't even ask what the hell is going on here...

Kid Stanislaus
04-21-2009, 9:48 AM
They're going to be a whole lot less likely to withstand a challenge in court if they do pass.


Unless they are deemed "reasonable" restrictions. That's probably going to be a millstone around our necks. Each and every "reasonable" restriction will have to be slugged out in one court battle after another. As soon as one "reasonable" restriction gets shot down then another one pops up. Its a war of attrition.

CowboyShooter
04-21-2009, 10:35 AM
What is it with de Leon? He has to have the biggest woodie for anti-gun legislation other than DiFi. I thought there was some procedural thingy that is supposed to keep bills from being re-introduced over and over again??? What the heck is up with our state government?
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