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1911man
04-18-2009, 8:29 PM
I was paging through bownells catalog and saw a conversion for a 10/22 to a 22 short. Why would they offer this? I mean why would someone shoot a 22 short, or would want that? I got to admit it seem like a cool idea. ( maybe to shoot rat or cats).

rabagley
04-18-2009, 8:41 PM
There's no need for such a conversion. Any .22 LR can shoot .22 short without a problem.

I suspect that the conversion kit is a small piece of paper that says in very small print:

GOTCHA!

1911man
04-18-2009, 8:45 PM
It is advertised with a different bolt and springs, i guess it will not cycle with the standard spring and bolt.

ChaparralCommando
04-18-2009, 9:59 PM
There's no need for such a conversion. Any .22 LR can shoot .22 short without a problem.

I suspect that the conversion kit is a small piece of paper that says in very small print:

GOTCHA!

I haven't found that to be the case. In some of the .22s I've tried shooting shorts and longs out of, the accuracy was terrible. I think it has something to do with the chamber length being different, but that wouldn't seem to explain why some .22s can shoot all three just fine. Autoloaders, different story. The recoil is different, and that is how they cycle. But you could just manually cycle them.

Toten Kopf
04-18-2009, 10:01 PM
The kit comes with a light-weight bolt, reduced recoil spring and a modified magazine.

I purchased the kit many years ago and it does allow the 10-22 to use shorts and functions flawlessly. However, I wasn't satisfied with shooting shorts (to loud), so I reworked the FCG and magazine to use CB Longs.

The rifle functions the same (flawlessly) and the report is like using a supressor. Most if not all .22 semi's will not function using CB Longs.

missiondude
04-18-2009, 10:23 PM
CB's are great to shoot in your house into old phonebooks with the stereo on...:)

cousinkix1953
04-18-2009, 10:30 PM
It is advertised with a different bolt and springs, i guess it will not cycle with the standard spring and bolt.
Exactly right.

I have an older .22 caliber semi-automatic rifle from the late 50s or early 60s. The factory manual says not to fire shorts; because they don't produce enough recoil to cycle the action. We used to shoot longs in it on occasions, but those are not common any more. So I keep a few boxes of LR ammo around here. Those have never failed to function properly...

ke6guj
04-18-2009, 10:37 PM
There's no need for such a conversion. Any .22 LR can shoot .22 short without a problem.
But the feeding mechanism may not properly load the shorter rounds. And, with a semi-auto, there may not be enough power to properly cycle the action. Teh 10/22 kit comes with a lighter bolt and .22short length magazine, IIRC.

4 Brigada
04-19-2009, 6:06 PM
I tried it once on a 10/22, the bolt didnt cycle and with a 20 inch barrel it was real quiet.

bohoki
04-19-2009, 9:45 PM
The kit comes with a light-weight bolt, reduced recoil spring and a modified magazine.

I purchased the kit many years ago and it does allow the 10-22 to use shorts and functions flawlessly. However, I wasn't satisfied with shooting shorts (to loud), so I reworked the FCG and magazine to use CB Longs.

The rifle functions the same (flawlessly) and the report is like using a supressor. Most if not all .22 semi's will not function using CB Longs.


wow i cant even get a cb to overcome the hammer spring even with the recoil spring removed so you are saying using the light weight bolt allows it to work?

Toten Kopf
04-19-2009, 10:57 PM
First, you need the Volks 22 short kit to try any changes in lesser powered ammunition. Reworking the FCG with different springs was a very time comsuming task but for me was worth the effort.

Having a 10-22 that shoots CCI CB Longs flawlessly is a lot of fun. And as always, people at the range are amazed at how quiet it is. Hearing the bullet impact and that being almost as loud as shooting the rifle itself is pretty cool.

The only real down side is that the CB Longs really don't have that much power, so your giving up power for the reduction in noise levels. I have wacked many squirrels and crows using this round so it's not entirely void of power.

Oh, as a added note, no drilling, grinding or metal removal was required to do this.

dominic
04-21-2009, 10:32 PM
I mistakenly purchased a box of CB longs and love them. I shoot them out my 10/22 just cycle the action by hand each time. Fixed that darn cat that ate my kids 4H ducklings.