View Full Version : Just looking for feedback please...
04-18-2009, 8:29 AM
First off, Hello everyone! I'm new to Calguns so break me in slow. I'm also just getting into building an AR 15. I just purchased a lower yesterday and while at the shop I bought a used DPMS upper which comes on their Panther Bull 24. It's a .223 and it's in almost new condition. http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspx?id=4.
I was told from a shop employee that it was from a friend of his who only shot 100 rounds with it. It came complete and the BCG looks brand new. It also has the Leupold Mark 4 Aluminum rings and a BSA Deer Hunter 6-24x50 sp scope. It was $699 and otd was $761.24.
Did I get a good deal?
I actually went in to purchase a different DPMS A2 20" complete upper for $399, but it had sold. My friend told me to make sure I get an upper that is 5.56. I asked the salesman about it and he said the stamped .223, which I bought would shoot 5.56. Again, newbie, (and now I know the difference between the two) I bought it did more research and got my answers. Called the shop and explained to the salesman and he said I could bring it back for a refund.
I didn't really want a 24" with a scope, but now I have one... It's beautiful though...
Should I return it or keep it? Is this a good 1st time build for a newbie?
All feedback is welcome and much appreciated.
04-18-2009, 8:55 AM
It depends on wether or not your happy with it. If you like what you have keep it, you can always shorten the barrel if you want. Or if you don'tesnt to mess with that take it back and try to find another upper. It seems like there is a lot more stuff coming out so I don't think you will have a problem finding exactly what you want. As far as price you got a pretty good deal considering it came with optics
04-18-2009, 9:02 AM
I guess you also have to ask your what's the purpose of the weapon - target, hunter, defense?? The price seems a little high as there are uppers on GB going for the lower $600 right now. But hey...if you like it...price makes no difference
04-18-2009, 10:44 AM
Thanks guys! Hey jeffyboy, where did you see the uppers for $600? I looked on gun broker and didn't really see anything. Saw a few, but no bolts included.
04-18-2009, 11:03 AM
If it is stainless fluted HB with free-float aluminum HG, you should keep it. I've got one of those a few years back. When I needed money recently I was deciding on selling it or my Remington 700 LTR. I sold LTR and I am glad I kept it. It shoots almost as good, and having 10 rounds in a semi-auto instead of 5 in a bolt gun is huge advantage. Use only .223 data if you reload. 1in8 twist is good for up to 75 grn. bullets, but I am getting the best results with Sierra 69 grn. HPBTs. I've checked that link and it shows non-fluted, 1in9 barrel, but I think it is still good. It would be too heavy to carry around, but for bench or varminting it is great
04-18-2009, 11:04 AM
Go to gunbroker and type in upper Or complete kit if you still need a LPK and stock. Nothing on there that is realy what you are looking for. Thats if you want a varmit style rifle
04-18-2009, 11:42 AM
It is stainless, fluted and free-float with a 1-8 twist. The thing is awesome, but I think it's too big. I really like the looks of the 16" and 18" barrels. I'm starting to think that $699 is a pretty good deal considering the Leupold Mark 4 Al Rings sell for $100 + and probably a $60 scope. I'm really just wanting to stand up with it and shoot targets. When I'm not shooting I just want to look at it.
I'll check GB again too
04-18-2009, 11:59 AM
Could'nt see the picks, but I say keep it. I have a 20'' RRA bull barrel and I absolutely love it. I am going to have a JP brake installed this weekend making the barrel almost 24''. Can't say my rifle is good to stand and shoot with but that is why I have A BCM 16'' as well
04-18-2009, 12:12 PM
04-18-2009, 12:18 PM
Nice!!! If you wanted you could have the barrel cut down. Randall at ar15 barrels does it for under 100. Just fyi. Definately worth what you paid.
04-18-2009, 12:42 PM
I was just talking to a friend who has a 16" and he wishes he had bought at least a 20" He says he feels too crowded up when shooting it. I'm 6'3" and I could see how my elbows might be all tucked in too close. Maybe not???
I was reading on DPMS website that the 24" Panther Bull is only able to use optics only??? Does this mean there is no way for me to add on sights??? I don't want to always look through a scope when shooting it... I do like the idea of having it cut down if I want. Can I still add a flash suppressor to a cut down barrel???
Thanks for the feedback
04-18-2009, 12:44 PM
Should I really care too much of not being able to use 5.56 rounds??? That was another little issue I was told to think about???
04-18-2009, 12:58 PM
I wouldn't care too much about that. You can attach any kind of compensator/brake here are some pictures of the jp comp i'm having put on tomorrow
04-18-2009, 1:01 PM
You will love your bull barrel Very acurate. I shot under 1'' Groups last time at the range at 100 yards
04-18-2009, 1:22 PM
Is that a 24"? How does that brake attach?
04-18-2009, 1:41 PM
No it 's a 20" without the brake. Compesators and brakes screw on but you need to have the barrel threaded to do this. It's about $80 to have that done. Getting it put on tomorrow. barrel length will be 22 1/4 after install
04-18-2009, 1:46 PM
The only thing about 5.56 is that if you get xm193 it shoots a huge flame out of the barrel which is pretty cool in my opinion:gunsmilie:
04-18-2009, 1:53 PM
Yeah I understand wanting a wylde chamber, Thats what mine is. Save it for your next build. Trust me you will eventualy want a smaller lighter shtf ar. So just get a wylde chamber then
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