View Full Version : Tax Money Lost on PPT Sales.

04-18-2009, 6:31 AM
Just a thought.

So the manufacture pays CA and sends them a handgun to test and be certified for the Safe Handgun Roster List.

Then the Handgun is deemed to be unsafe after the period of time on the list and it is dropped from the list because the manufacture fails to pay the fee again. Thus forcing all said handguns to be sold as a PPT and in many instances being sold without sales tax collected.

No wonder California is broke financially!!

04-18-2009, 7:33 AM
The number of non-rostered guns being sold PPT is inconsequential. There are so few ways to get those guns here in the first place the lost tax revenue would be negligible.

04-18-2009, 8:23 AM
OK, so the state is bankrupt because we don't pay enough taxes...
Hmmm, if only there were a way that we could all pay more. We already have a luxury tax surcharge, how about we add an "Evil tax" on all firearm and ammo purchases? :devil2:

I bet that if we put our collective heads together, we can think of lots of new taxes to get our fine state out of bankruptcy.
Here, I'll start us off with a few...
"Nasty tax" on porn
"Fat tax" on fast food and ice cream
"Crap tax" for every time we use a public restroom

04-18-2009, 9:35 AM
No No No don’t get me wrong.
I am not for taxes.
Just as handguns fall of the roster they become more expensive to acquire as PPT when you can find them.
WHAT MAKES THEM UNSAFE because the Manufacture fails to keep paying the needed fees to this D_MN State?
What makes them unsafe if the same model is on the list but the said handgun is a different barrel length, or caliber, of material of construction? They all function the same way. Look at the handgun market California brings. Their Chicken Sh_t roster forces many of the sales to go PPT thus loosing the sales tax on many of them. I don’t know what the fees are to keep it on the roster for a few more years. I am pretty sure the sales tax on say 4 or 6 $1000.00 plus said guns in the couple of rostered years would bring in more money for the counties and state in taxes. It would also possible lower the selling price on them because they would be easier to find and purchase. This would be a win for us gun owners and the local and state budgets.

California again at its best. Government agencies wanting their money kick back from manufactures. But what way would they actually acquire more money?

04-18-2009, 11:30 AM
they still get the dros fee either way.

04-18-2009, 11:44 AM
You fail to see that the state of CA, doesn't care about these extra taxes lost on non-rostered handguns.

Why because the whole safe list is BS, and it's their way of limiting the number of firearms available for purchase and insures that no new design can be sold since the requirements are so strict and get stricter every so many years.

What they were hoping for was a all out ban like in DC, but knew they would never get away with it, remember the San Francisco ban that was strickened down.

So they said hey if we can't ban them why don't we piss off the manufactors enough that they won't sale certain guns, and hopefully not at all any more to CA residents. And it's working. A few companies flat out refuse to be extrorted in unnecessary fees and regulations under the guise of making firearms safer to the comsumer.

Personally if I could get another job and move the hell out of this state I would. No more sales tax, property tax, car registration and so forth. If enough people did that and they lost revenue across the board maybe they learn not to force their dumb beliefs on others.

04-18-2009, 9:57 PM
If they REALLY wanted revenue, they'd sell AW permits and hi cap mag permits- $5000 for a lifetime un-bannable permit. I'd be in for one.