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Synergy
04-17-2009, 10:49 AM
Does anyone have any info on this treaty when it started back in the Clinton days as :The regional treaty, adopted by the Organization of American States, was signed by former President Bill Clinton in 1997.

All my Google-Fu turns up are quotes from the meeting yesterday with Mexico.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/16/obama-to-announce-support_n_187824.html

Here is what the Organization of American States is: (sounds like a mini-UN)
The Organization of American States (OAS) brings together the nations of the Western Hemisphere to strengthen cooperation on democratic values, defend common interests and debate the major issues facing the region and the world. The OAS is the region’s principal multilateral forum for strengthening democracy, promoting human rights, and confronting shared problems such as poverty, terrorism, illegal drugs and corruption. It plays a leading role in carrying out mandates established by the hemisphere’s leaders through the Summits of the Americas.

http://www.oas.org/main/english/

Kishfisser
04-17-2009, 11:19 AM
http://www.state.gov/p/wha/rls/49907.htm
Does this help?

It is rather long.

AKman
04-17-2009, 12:00 PM
I did a quick read and the US already complies with most of the provisions. Many of the requirements come from US laws that have been on the books for decades (e.g., firearm markings, tracking). There are a few parts that with a liberal interpretation could be a problem. It would be a shame to see an ATF trace result in the extradition of a US citizen or FFL to Mexico.

Legasat
04-17-2009, 12:15 PM
Here is a link to the Snowflakes in Hell Blog. They give some analysis on this topic:

http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/04/16/more-on-the-inter-american-arms-treaty/

Good Read...

yellowfin
04-17-2009, 12:54 PM
Time to start calling the Senate, preferably other states' senators since the two from here are undoubtedly for this crap. :mad:

tiki
04-17-2009, 1:55 PM
I've been reading about this for a while. What bothers me about this is the fact that it can potentially get around the constitution. If the U.N. or O.A.S decide to create laws that all nations abide by, and, lets say they create a multinational court such as a U.N. Criminal Court, then you are no longer protected by the Second Amendment. As we all know, the Second Amendment protects the people from infringement by the Federal Government. Incorporation would extend that protection from infringement from the states. However, if Obama and the rest of his socialist left wing radicals decide to somehow hook us into this, the law would be an international law, not Federal and not State.
Could this be done? I don't know, i'm not a legal expert, however, after reading about left wing radicals like Harold Koh, it wouldn't take much to swing the Supreme Court so far to the socialist left that they would approve something like this.
Remember the Anti American One World bull**** that some of these clowns are touting and it doesn't get far fetched to see this happening. Don't let a crisis go to waste? Well, I see it starting.
Combating illegal arms trafficking accross country borders (Mexico), the Inter-American Arms Treaty becomes a U.N. or O.A.S. multinational law.
Next piracy and ship hijacking (Somalia) becomes a multinational law. Once this is setup using the currrent crisis, it doesn't take much to add to it. Incremental errosion of the Constitution.
First they start with the illegal manufacture and transfer of firearms and ammunition. Then, any manufacturer needs an expensive license. Good bye home reloaders, hello insanely expensive ammo.
Then, they ban possession of military style firearms.
Then, semi-automatics.
Then calibers, one by one, moving down the line from the .50 BMG to the .223
This can't be challenged as a violation of the Constitution because it is a multinational law and not a federal law.
I hope i'm wrong. I hope this is a tin foil hat i'm wearing, but, I don't see the recent backing off of an AWB as a "gee we can't get the votes, lets give up" scenario. I sense that there is something bigger going on.

Edit: And it doesn't stop there. Organized protests against a government, peaceful or not, illegal. Warrants? Not needed. Probable cause? Not needed.