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smogcity
04-16-2009, 10:35 AM
Ex KFI host John Zigler asks some questions on the sidewalk at USC and gets cuffed and manhandled.

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/320303.html

Chilling stuff...If you ask a question that bothers the Obama supporting mainstream media, you are subject to arrest. FYI, for those who don't know this guy, he's not a crazy or kook. He's a well know and respected personality.

Technical Ted
04-16-2009, 10:39 AM
Last I heard, USC is a private university. Private property.

Untamed1972
04-16-2009, 10:44 AM
Last I heard, USC is a private university. Private property.


In CA the "Leonard Law" protects constitutionally guaranteed free speech at all private CA universities/colleges the same as is allowed at any state school or any other public place.

Editted to add: Some schools do have "designated free speech" areas though. and for obvious reason...you can't have people disturbing classes in session. So it's possible they could ding him for some kind of disturbance charge depending on where on campus he was and if he was disturbing some on going classes or events.

SVT_Fox
04-16-2009, 11:08 AM
this is like shredding the constitution, i know thats a cleshay statement but MAN

Whiskey_Sauer
04-16-2009, 11:12 AM
I would reserve judgment until the University can explain itself. Remember, you're relying on an edited videotape.

wash
04-16-2009, 11:14 AM
What was said? I've got no sound.

yellowfin
04-16-2009, 11:24 AM
Amazing, and disgusting.

pdq_wizzard
04-16-2009, 11:30 AM
:eek::90:

CA_Libertarian
04-16-2009, 11:57 AM
If the school receives ANY public funding at all, or any tax sheltering of any kind, I think it should be subject to all the rules of public property.

If it receives no benefits from the state, then I say it's private property subject to all the protections you and I should enjoy on our private property.

TonyM
04-16-2009, 12:02 PM
Meh, he looked drunk, or under the influence of something.

Looks like staged drama.

Technical Ted
04-16-2009, 12:11 PM
In CA the "Leonard Law" protects constitutionally guaranteed free speech at all private CA universities/colleges the same as is allowed at any state school or any other public place.

Editted to add: Some schools do have "designated free speech" areas though. and for obvious reason...you can't have people disturbing classes in session. So it's possible they could ding him for some kind of disturbance charge depending on where on campus he was and if he was disturbing some on going classes or events.
Leonards Law is part of the California Education Code (Specifically section 93467)
94367. (a) No private postsecondary educational institution shall
make or enforce a rule subjecting a student to disciplinary sanctions
solely on the basis of conduct that is speech or other communication
that, when engaged in outside the campus or facility of a private
postsecondary institution, is protected from governmental restriction
by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution or Section
2 of Article I of the California Constitution.
(b) A student enrolled in a private postsecondary institution at
the time that the institution has made or enforced any rule in
violation of subdivision (a) may commence a civil action to obtain
appropriate injunctive and declaratory relief as determined by the
court. Upon motion, a court may award attorney's fees to a prevailing
plaintiff in a civil action pursuant to this section.
(c) This section does not apply to a private postsecondary
educational institution that is controlled by a religious
organization, to the extent that the application of this section
would not be consistent with the religious tenets of the
organization.
(d) This section does not authorize the prior restraint of student
speech.
(e) This section does not prohibit the imposition of discipline
for harassment, threats, or intimidation, unless constitutionally
protected.
(f) This section does not prohibit an institution from adopting
rules and regulations that are designed to prevent hate violence, as
defined in subdivision (a) of Section 4 of Chapter 1363 of the
Statutes of 1992, from being directed at students in a manner that
denies them their full participation in the educational process, so
long as the rules and regulations conform to standards established by
the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and Section 2
of Article I of the California Constitution for citizens generally.

Non students, nor media can't just walk on to school property and start taping without permission from the school authorities.

ZRX61
04-16-2009, 12:12 PM
The Brownshirts are already here..

smogcity
04-16-2009, 12:45 PM
The Brownshirts are already here..

My thoughts exactly...

This video was't even political disent, it was one right leaning media personality questioning award show attendies about a left leaning media personality.

Watch the next "joe the plumber" who asks a question with a right leaning agenda wrestled to the ground and hustled off.

By the simple fact of our "interests" and posts on calguns we are suspect under the recent "watch out for the right wing extremist" memo.

notnowjohn
04-16-2009, 12:52 PM
this is like shredding the constitution, i know thats a cleshay statement but MAN
You just made my signature file. Congrats!

Untamed1972
04-16-2009, 12:56 PM
You just made my signature file. Congrats!

It's spelled cliche' BTW :)