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atkbond
04-11-2009, 8:52 AM
FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1
FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.2
FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3
FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4
FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5
FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6
FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.
FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7
FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”8
FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9
FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10
FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11
FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14
FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month sales restrictions.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9

1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 2, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote =00219)
2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in “Obama had greater role on liberal survey,” Politico, March 31, 20087. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html)
3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 2, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote =00217)
4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' On Gun Owners' Rights," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, 2/15/08. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/obama-common-se.html)
5. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2004 SB 2165, vote 20.
6. “Fact Check: No News In Obama's Consistent Record.” Obama ’08, December 11, 2007. (http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/11/fact_check_no_news_in_obamas_c.php)
7. “Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_560181.html)
8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7. (http://www.joycefdn.org/pdf/98_AnnualReport.pdf)
9. “Obama and Gun Control,” The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (http://www.volokh.com/posts/1203389334.shtml)
10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.
11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18.
12. “Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control,” Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (http://learfield.typepad.com/radioiowa/2007/04/clinton_edwards.html)
13. Chicago Tribune blogs, “Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action,” February 15, 2008, (http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/barack_obama_comments_on_shoot.html)
14. Barack Obama campaign website: “As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . .” (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/urbanpolicy/#crime-and-law-enforcement.)

I have to ask, What is going to happen to our Freedom?

.454
04-11-2009, 8:59 AM
Welcome to Calguns.
Everybody already knows the facts you posted are true, it's just some people here have other agendas. They call themselves "non-single issue voters" or "hobby firearms owners" You'll have the (dis)pleasure to deal with them often on this forum.

SVT_Fox
04-11-2009, 9:14 AM
everyone should be scared, wealth first, then firearms, whats next!? the tin hat ban?


"HOPE AND CHAHNGE, WE DID IT, OBAMA, WE DID IT"


lol at all the obama youth

Sunwolf
04-11-2009, 9:16 AM
Stand by.Apologistas are coming.

Timberline
04-11-2009, 10:04 AM
Ammoe tax? :confused:

squishyhead
04-11-2009, 10:17 AM
Does anyone here know what "howling at the moon" and "preaching to the choir" mean?

Can'thavenuthingood
04-11-2009, 10:37 AM
Welcome to Calguns and I hope you stay around awhile as I can see by your compilation you are enthused about your freedoms.

Hyperlinked refs are appreciated and do much to enhance presentations or postings.

I read through the list again and discovered how you referenced the items.

Whats going to happen to our freedom?
We are going to incrementally win back some of those things you think we've lost. The fact that gun sales are at an all time hihg and ammo stocks are depleted tells me that the general populace is taking action. I'd say there are a great many of those gun and ammo buyers are Obama voters that are seeing the light and wondering "What have I done?"

What can we do?
Attack while they are back on their heels and don't let up.

Thanks,

Vick

AJAX22
04-11-2009, 10:39 AM
Does anyone here know what "howling at the moon" and "preaching to the choir" mean?

I believe it is analogous to 'Farting into a windstorm'

deleted by PC police
04-11-2009, 3:14 PM
Iraq? :confused:

We are still there are we not??? I thought he called for an immediate withdrawl before the elections.

CalNRA
04-11-2009, 3:18 PM
Iraq? :confused:

for all his indignation at Clinton for voting to authorize the war, he sure voted otherwise...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090409/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_war_costs_votes_1

Major war-funding legislation while Barack Obama was in the Senate, and how he voted:

_May 2005: Congress approved an $82 billion bill to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and international anti-terrorism efforts. Obama voted yes.

_June 2006: Congress cleared a $94.5 billion bill to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as provide aid to hurricane victims. Obama voted yes.

_September 2006: Congress cleared a $448 billion Pentagon funding bill that included $70 billion for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama voted yes.

_April 2007: Congress cleared a $124 billion spending bill that provided $90 billion for war costs but mandated the withdrawal of U.S. troops within six months. Obama voted yes, but President George W. Bush vetoed the legislation.

_May 2007: Congress approved a roughly $100 billion spending measure to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and domestic projects, including hurricane relief. Obama voted no.

_December 2007: Congress cleared a $555 billion catchall spending bill that included $70 billion for U.S. military action in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama did not vote.

_June 2008: Congress approved a measure to spend $162 billion for war costs as well as provide a 13-week extension of unemployment benefits and emergency relief for the flood-ravaged Midwest. Obama voted yes.

.454
04-11-2009, 3:19 PM
There are more important things than guns and ammo, right guys? :rolleyes:


Bush lied people died? Quagmire in Iraq? The Rove conspiracy? Halliburton? Waterboarding poor innocent terrorists?

chris
04-11-2009, 3:25 PM
Welcome to Calguns.
Everybody already knows the facts you posted are true, it's just some people here have other agendas. They call themselves "non-single issue voters" or "hobby firearms owners" You'll have the (dis)pleasure to deal with them often on this forum.

you got that right!

lioneaglegriffin
04-11-2009, 3:40 PM
We are still there are we not??? I thought he called for an immediate withdrawl before the elections.

SOFA pretty much took it out of his hands. all he did was shorten the withdrawal by 3 months IIRC.

BTW I just say Iraq because that was his signature move up until the economy started stroking out.

There were plenty of second tier stuff like (global warming, and Gitmo)

and even some third tier sh8t like dumping nuclear waste in yucca mountain. (of course not relative to CA residents let alone calgunners but still he tried to get into local politics you know what i mean. I don't think campaigned directly to CA as far as local issues goes because CA is considered "safe" D collum Nov. 4)