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Weekender
04-10-2009, 8:55 AM
Share with those who just don't believe that a "democracy" can take away your right to own and use firearms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGVAQOUi6ec

Weekender

Be afraid, be very afraid of liberal politicians seeking to "protect" you.

Nanook
04-10-2009, 10:06 AM
You know, I generally don't click on youtube links, partly because Flash is spotty in my browser, but also because I've been Rick rolled one too many times. I also don't consider myself a "gun nut," but more of an "enthusiast." I own a couple handguns and a rifle and like to shoot them. I believe in the right to self-defense. Joining the NRA was kind of a big deal for me, as I was mostly raised by a very liberal, Jewish Mom in NYC, who dislikes guns (but I am this close to getting her to go shooting with me).

Anyway, watching that video actually gave me chills. Seeing all those people marching in what most likely is a futile protest of the last of their gun rights being taken away just broke my heart. Thanks for posting it, as it really drove the point of protecting our rights home.

Gator Monroe
04-10-2009, 10:09 AM
Private Firearms ownership has 15 years tops unless we vote for GOP 2A candidates in 10 and send the Secular Progressiv Socialists a message pronto !

bohoki
04-10-2009, 10:09 AM
yes a democracy allowes the majority to impose its will on the minority

which is why we are a constitutionally controlled republic that only uses democratic techniques to choose our representatives

CAL.BAR
04-10-2009, 10:20 AM
yes a democracy allowes the majority to impose its will on the minority

which is why we are a constitutionally controlled republic that only uses democratic techniques to choose our representatives

That's how it works! We need to remember this. Gun owners/enthusiasts are a small minority in this county and especially in this state. One study (swivel study?) I found online put the number at an estimated 20% of the total population. Don't even know if that is correct b/c most gun owner/enthusiasts have multiple guns, so the old "x number of guns sold vs. population" statistic is meaningless.

nicki
04-10-2009, 10:30 AM
The English have lost not only their guns, they are losing all their other rights too.

1. Video survellience of the general population in urban areas is routine.
2. Mandatory GPS recording, tracking and control will soon be in place.
3. England will be archiving all e mails and they will be subject to government review anytime.
4. If they say you are arrested for terrorism, no rights.
5. I bet the press is free to report what they want, but if they report the wrong things, they will be in trouble.

See the Movie V for Vendetta. All England lacks is the Dictator. Instead what they have is a bunch of "Nannies" in parliament.

Ironically, the English wanted democracy to protect their rights from the King.

Nicki

grahlaika
04-10-2009, 10:39 AM
One study (swivel study?) I found online put the number at an estimated 20% of the total population. Don't even know if that is correct b/c most gun owner/enthusiasts have multiple guns, so the old "x number of guns sold vs. population" statistic is meaningless.

I'd actually guess the number is a lot higher. Many people simply don't want to answer any polls about how many guns they may have. I certainly don't tell anyone that I own guns. It's just not very prudent to advertise it.

I'm also guessing that many people might have something as simple as a shotgun in their home, even in Cali. Even this forum has, what, about 25,000 registered members, right? I'd be surprised if 100 of those are actively posting at any one time. By that measure you might think only 0.4% of people on CalGuns own weapons, which is not the case. I question all polls, because they're so easy to deceive.

eflatminor
04-10-2009, 10:54 AM
We live in a REPUBLIC, not a democracy. Democracies end up being totalitarian states, every time.

7x57
04-10-2009, 11:22 AM
Ironically, the English wanted democracy to protect their rights from the King.


The fatal flaws of the British system seem to stem from the pieces of the monarchy still in place. Parliament rules, in theory, on behalf of the king with the king's powers. As those are theoretically unlimited, so is Parliament.

As you point out, the problem seems to be precisely the one the founders identified: it isn't that the wrong people have unlimited sovereignty, it is that anyone has unlimited sovereignty. Britain, and our left, believe in unlimited sovereignty, they just want to fix it by figuring out the Right People to exercise it.

7x57

Jeff P
04-10-2009, 11:35 AM
God save the Queen and her precious regime.

chris
04-10-2009, 12:55 PM
The English have lost not only their guns, they are losing all their other rights too.

1. Video survellience of the general population in urban areas is routine.
2. Mandatory GPS recording, tracking and control will soon be in place.
3. England will be archiving all e mails and they will be subject to government review anytime.
4. If they say you are arrested for terrorism, no rights.
5. I bet the press is free to report what they want, but if they report the wrong things, they will be in trouble.

See the Movie V for Vendetta. All England lacks is the Dictator. Instead what they have is a bunch of "Nannies" in parliament.

Ironically, the English wanted democracy to protect their rights from the King.

Nicki

also remember the news bite right at the beginning. "it is the 1000th day of the siege of Seatle." rather scary if England continues it's path today.