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Ifticar
04-09-2009, 4:04 PM
This US Conference of Mayors press release calls for some draconian gun control measures.

A PDF File (http://www.usmayors.org/pressreleases/uploads/STMNTMAYORSREAXTOSHOOTINGEPEDEMIC4609.pdf)

1. A strengthened, effective ban on military-style assault weapons, such as
AK-47s, and their component parts must be reinstated.
2. Common sense gun legislation, such as that advocated by Mayors Against
Illegal Guns, should be enacted. Such legislation should close the gun
show loophole; keep guns out of the hands of terrorists, and no longer
permit gun dealers whose licenses are revoked to conduct fire sales.
3. Legislation should be enacted which would limit the number of guns a
person may purchase in a single transaction or in a month or other
specified period of time.
4. Law enforcement agencies' access to gun trace data should not be
limited in any way by either state or federal law - for example, by any
version of the so-called Tiahrt amendment.
5. Anyone purchasing a firearm in the United States should be required to go
through a background check. Full funding should be provided for the
National Instant Criminal Background Check System and states should be
required to submit records, including those involving persons with
serious mental health problems, to the NICS.

6. The Integrated Ballistic Identification System (IBIS) should be expanded to include ballistic images for all new guns, not just those involved in crimes. The federal government should support the development of new technologies, such as micro stamping, which can help solve crimes.

This left me wondering if my Mayor endorsed this. I sent him and Email asking him. He has not responded. Upon further investigation, I found this site...

mayorsagainstillegalguns.org (http://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns.org/html/about/members.shtml)

I found that my mayor was indeed a member of this group. I sent him a follow up email telling to what I had found that he could ignore my previous email. I told I was looking forward to my next mayor having more respect for the Constitution.

bwiese
04-09-2009, 4:39 PM
Don't worry about the members of Mayors Against Illegal Guns.

The list shrinks, as they're usually indicted for bribery/corruption every few months.

7x57
04-09-2009, 5:12 PM
<Insert your joke about "gun owners against illegal mayors" here>

7x57

spddrcr
04-09-2009, 7:22 PM
you guys should read the site, there's some pretty messed up stuff on there here's a sample:

Wal-Mart and the bi-partisan coalition of Mayors Against Illegal Guns have announced that Wal-Mart, the largest seller of firearms in the nation, has adopted the new Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership, a 10-point code that will help ensure that guns do not fall into the wrong hands. The Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership, created by Mayors Against Illegal Guns and Wal-Mart, is a set of policies that will be implemented over time that includes video recording of sales, rigid controls on inventory, checks that gun purchasers are not misrepresenting themselves, and the development of a first-of-its kind computerized crime gun trace log for retailers.
Read the full press release



RESPONSIBLE FIREARMS RETAILER PARTNERSHIP:
A 10-Point Voluntary Code

1. Videotaping the Point of Sale for All Firearms Transactions. Participating retailers will videotape the point-of-sale of all firearms transactions and maintain videos for 6 months to deter illegal purchases and monitor employees.

2. Computerized Crime Gun Trace Log and Alert System. Participating retailers will maintain a computerized log of crime gun traces relating to the retailer. Once the program is in place, if a customer who has a prior trace at that retailer attempts to purchase a firearm, the sale will be electronically flagged. The retailer would have discretion to proceed with the sale or stop the sale.

3. Purchaser Declaration. For sales flagged by the trace alert system, participating retailers will ask purchasers to fill out a declaration indicating that they meet the legal requirement to purchase the firearm.

4. Deterring Fake IDs. Participating retailers will only accept valid federal- or state-issued picture IDs as primary identification. Retailers will utilize additional ID checking mechanisms.

5. Consistent Visible Signage. Participating retailers will post signage created by the Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership to alert customers of their legal responsibilities at the point-of-sale.

6. Employee Background Checks. Participating retailers will conduct criminal background checks for all employees selling or handling firearms.

7. Employee Responsibility Training. Participating retailers will participate in an employee responsibility training program focused on deterring illegal purchasers. The Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership will create an online training system based on Wal-Mart's training program.

8. Inventory Checking. Participating retailers will conduct daily and quarterly audits. Guidelines will be based on Wal-Mart's firearms audit check procedures.

9. No Sales Without Background Check Results. Participating retailers would prohibit sales based on "default proceeds," which are permitted by law when the background check has not returned a result within 3 days.

10. Securing Firearms. Participating retailers will maintain firearms kept in customer accessible areas in locked cases or locked to racks.

Mayhem
04-09-2009, 7:29 PM
Not to sound apathetic but .... Its not like these shooting sprees are even causing a spike in gun related homicides. and there not going to go away in the least. With the current social and economic pressures there probably going to get worse. With the over sensationalized media attention they are getting all the non-gun people are getting the impression they are happening all the time everywhere. Add in every Media Ho politician jumping on the "Public Safety" bandwagon things are probably going to get worse.

RRangel
04-09-2009, 8:36 PM
Not to sound apathetic but .... Its not like these shooting sprees are even causing a spike in gun related homicides. and there not going to go away in the least. With the current social and economic pressures there probably going to get worse. With the over sensationalized media attention they are getting all the non-gun people are getting the impression they are happening all the time everywhere. Add in every Media Ho politician jumping on the "Public Safety" bandwagon things are probably going to get worse.

It's a good thing we have alternative media. In 1994 that may have worked out real well for these freedom haters. It's also ironic that some of the popular names in the Mayors Against Illegal Guns represent some of the most crime ridden failures in the United States. Americans need to ask themselves if they think the nation should follow in the footsteps of failure.

N6ATF
04-09-2009, 11:34 PM
Don't worry about the members of Mayors Against Illegal Guns.

The list shrinks, as they're usually indicted for bribery/corruption every few months.

And then get off a lot easier than those who were disarmed victims due to municipal ordinances against the 2A they voted for or otherwise supported.

BillCA
04-10-2009, 1:44 AM
1. A strengthened, effective ban on military-style assault weapons, such as AK-47s, and their component parts must be reinstated.
This is because guns that merely look like military weapons become so much more powerful regardless of the cartridge they fire or their actual rate of fire.

2. Common sense gun legislation, such as that advocated by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, should be enacted. Such legislation should close the gun show loophole; keep guns out of the hands of terrorists, and no longer permit gun dealers whose licenses are revoked to conduct fire sales.
Yes, common sense says that new laws making it more expensive to sell private property and require government permission to do so will prevent crimes, just like it has stopped all gun crime in California. :laugh: Known terrorists, by definition, are prohibited from buying guns in the USA. Those on the no-fly and watch-lists are generally prohibited too. Or does "common sense" mean not selling to anyone who reads certain books, magazines or websites?

3. Legislation should be enacted which would limit the number of guns a person may purchase in a single transaction or in a month or other specified period of time.
Oh, oh! As long as we're violating the constitution wholesale, can we also put a limit on the number of press releases by activist organizations and limit journalists to writing only one article per month? We could employ thousands of heretofore unemployed folks and really stimulate the economy!

4. Law enforcement agencies' access to gun trace data should not be limited in any way by either state or federal law - for example, by any version of the so-called Tiahrt amendment.
Sure, let LE agencies have access to the data under the confidential law enforcement records restriction and making it a felony to provide the data or summaries of the data to non-LE personnel a felony.

5. Anyone purchasing a firearm in the United States should be required to go through a background check. Full funding should be provided for the National Instant Criminal Background Check System and states should be
required to submit records, including those involving persons with serious mental health problems, to the NICS.
Sure, let's fully fund the background check system so it's free. Let's also define "serious mental health problems" better to mean people who have been committed to a mental care facility by a court or who have a history of violent psychological behavior. Not the guy who trashes his wife's car because she had an affair and he's has a record with a single 24hour hold in 1988.

6. The Integrated Ballistic Identification System (IBIS) should be expanded to include ballistic images for all new guns, not just those involved in crimes. The federal government should support the development of new technologies, such as micro stamping, which can help solve crimes.
By all means, let us develop more ways to waste government money and make products too expensive for the lower classes to buy. But let's also be fair here too. Let's require CEO's and directors of financial corporations to always carry a unique GPS identifiers to thwart financial crimes - it'll have about the same deterrence effect (i.e. none to speak of).