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evan69
04-08-2009, 12:40 PM
I plan on getting one once I get an ar15, how many others do this to save money on ammo?

fonionrings
04-08-2009, 12:43 PM
I bought a dedicated .22 spikes upper just for the purpose of having something to shoot without going broke. High five!

Axewound
04-08-2009, 12:51 PM
I plan on getting one once I get an ar15, how many others do this to save money on ammo?

there are a couple members on here that have them and they are worth it, very awesome

jkchan83
04-08-2009, 12:57 PM
I have a dedicated .22LR Velocity Firearms upper. Combined with a Cavalry Arms lower, it weighs less than my girlfriend's 10/22. I bought it for practice and am happy with it.

rtlltj
04-08-2009, 1:02 PM
If your lower is marked 5.56, can you still attach a .22 lr upper and use the normal magazine release or is this illegal because it's not a dedicated .22 lr lower? Since as soon as you remove the upper from the lower isn't the lower now in illegal configuration?

fonionrings
04-08-2009, 1:05 PM
You can use the normal magazine release if you have a .22 upper attached, just be sure to configure it back to a legal configuration before removing the upper.

zman
04-08-2009, 1:07 PM
I plan on getting one once I get an ar15, how many others do this to save money on ammo?

Mine's a full .22LR rifle from Spike's Tactical :thumbsup: All-day non-stop fun to the max!

Pic from TPF:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g52/elrojo14/TPF/22rifle1.jpg

Black Majik
04-08-2009, 1:21 PM
Hear hear! or wait... here here! :D

wildcard313
04-08-2009, 1:23 PM
I also bought a dedicated Spikes upper to go along with the 6.8 Addax GPU I have ordered. 3 cents vs $1 a shot means I have to fire about 1000 rounds of .22 before it pays for itself, that includes all the .22 mags and loaders and extra stuff I bought just for the .22 upper.

Blacktail 8541
04-08-2009, 2:51 PM
I have a dedicated 22lr AR and I have a conversion for 1 of my ARs. I built an A1 carbine style with 1/12 twist barrel. Very fun.

YoungGun2
04-08-2009, 2:59 PM
I have a dedicated 22lr AR and I have a conversion for 1 of my ARs. I built an A1 carbine style with 1/12 twist barrel. Very fun.

I would have to agree its very fun:thumbsup:

I plan to do the same soon....

BroncoBob
04-08-2009, 3:08 PM
I went with a dedicated Spikes ST22 rifle. With the price of ammo going crazy this is really the only way to enjoy shooting without losing your retirement fund.

Born2Lose
04-08-2009, 3:32 PM
I recently installed a Spike's conversion in my Stag 2H MMG build. I swapped back to the regular pistol grip. I haven't gotten to take it shoot it yet but i'm ready for a lengthy tuning session. Now if i could just find some Federal Bulk Ammo.
Click on thumbs to enlarge.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7970/img5522.th.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img5522.jpg)
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/5236/img5520a.th.jpg (http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img5520a.jpg)

unusedusername
04-08-2009, 3:45 PM
Looks like I'm the only one running a ciener kit so far..

I usually get weird looks at the range when they ask if it is rim-fire or center-fire...

"Both"

ArticleTheFourth
04-08-2009, 3:53 PM
I went with a dedicated Spikes ST22 rifle. With the price of ammo going crazy this is really the only way to enjoy shooting without losing your retirement fund.


I got a $199 Brownells 22LR insert and now I get to shoot for less than 5 per round of what I have lots. Really nice! Here's the link (10 round mag only for us PRK folks): :confused:


http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/productdetail.aspx?p=27008&st=22lr%20conversion&s=

desmark6
04-08-2009, 5:33 PM
I bought a CMMG dedicated 22 upper for my AR, waiting for the magazines to arrive so I can go try her out!!! Like you guys, I am very excited about the idea of shooting all day without taking a loan out for ammo!!!!

Anyone have experience with the CMMG uppers? Hoping the function well and shoot at least decently accurate

bplvr
04-08-2009, 5:44 PM
I recieved today { from J-K Supply } a dedicated Spikes upper to drop on a Spikes 'multi' lower. Kudos to J-K !! I went with the dedicated upper as the .223 barrel has a twist rate of 7 or 9 and the little .22 R needs a faster twist. The Spikes is 1 in 16 and with the gas port eliminated I don't have to worry about fouling from the dirtier .22 ammo.
J-K had Spikes .22 lowers a few days ago .
I know when the wife sees this new .22 that she will 'aquire' a new gun .:rolleyes:

CHS
04-08-2009, 6:17 PM
My AR-22:
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m446/bdsmchs/ar15-0282.jpg

River Jack
04-08-2009, 6:21 PM
I'm a .22lr freak. I love shooting my Spike's AR-22 and others. Can't wait for that Sig 522 to become available. I'm saving up!

windsheer
04-08-2009, 6:30 PM
I have a completed spikes dedicated ar 22, a spikes lower that has the 22lr engranved on it and their upper with the yankee quad rail with their really cool fake can. I just got 2 more 22lr lowers for my kids . Thats right a 22 assault rifle my my little boys, it doesn't get any better! Can't wait for holloween !

4 Brigada
04-08-2009, 6:46 PM
Looks like I'm the only one running a ciener kit so far..


I use the Ciener kit too. Best deal for the money. I also use a .22 conversion kit on my Browning Hi Power

CHS
04-08-2009, 6:48 PM
I use the Ciener kit too. Best deal for the money. I also use a .22 conversion kit on my Browning Hi Power

I'd much rather have 2 guns, instead of one gun and a conversion kit :)

Seesm
04-08-2009, 11:22 PM
I am looking for a dedicated upper so I can shoot CHEAP CHEAP!! Any ideas folks?

rulas41
04-08-2009, 11:24 PM
i got a drop in bolt replacement for mine

CHS
04-08-2009, 11:26 PM
I am looking for a dedicated upper so I can shoot CHEAP CHEAP!! Any ideas folks?

Model1sales.

They got it right with their .22lr dedicated uppers.

Spikes tactical makes a good dedicated unit as well, for a price. Same with Tactical Solutions.

Aside from those three, you've got a Spikes, CMMG, or Ciener conversion kit. Personally, I would rather go dedicated. You'll pay for the whole gun in about 5-6 bricks of ammo.

elSquid
04-09-2009, 12:35 AM
http://sqidbait.googlepages.com/spikes22mod.JPG/spikes22mod-custom;size:600,450.JPG

Everybody else on Calguns seemed to be building them, and I am nothing if not a lemming.... :D

-- Michael

marklbucla
04-09-2009, 9:06 AM
I've been all over the DPMS .22LR uppers even when I could get 9mm for 3.86 a box!

Angie
04-09-2009, 10:58 AM
http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp275/Fireopal36/22lr.jpg?t=1239303511
Model 1 Sales upper. No frills on it yet.

Seesm
04-09-2009, 2:53 PM
http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp275/Fireopal36/22lr.jpg?t=1239303511
Model 1 Sales upper. No frills on it yet.


Hey what MAGAZINE is that you have there that is full size but only for the 22lr? Thanks

and

Model 1 sales looks like they only sell the ceiner kits? Kinda want a cheap dedicated unit... Why do they sell 22lr barrels when you can run your .223 barrels with the pop in kits?

CHS
04-09-2009, 2:58 PM
Hey what MAGAZINE is that you have there that is full size but only for the 22lr? Thanks


That's a black dog mag. 44mag.com carries them.


Model 1 sales looks like they only sell the ceiner kits? Kinda want a cheap dedicated unit... Why do they sell 22lr barrels when you can run your .223 barrels with the pop in kits?

Model1sales sells dedicated .22lr uppers as well as ciener-style conversion kits.

The disadvantage of the ciener kit is that you don't need a 1/9 or 1/7 twist for .22lr, and they plug up the gas tube/gas port with too much use.

The advantage to running a dedicated gun is you can have detachable mags of any capacity.

evan69
04-09-2009, 2:58 PM
Does it have to be a dedicated .22lr upper to use the normal mag release? Or can it be on a marked 5.56 upper with a .22lr bolt carrier group?

till44
04-09-2009, 3:01 PM
Just picked up two CMMG conversion kits, can't wait to try them out.

Seesm
04-09-2009, 3:01 PM
I see they have complete dedicated uppers now... I did not look in the right spot sorry.
My home brew upper make it into a "pistol" 22lr would be SICK.

So can we turn a homebrew into a pistol? Does anyone know this? Thank.. you guys are FAST!!

CHS
04-09-2009, 3:05 PM
Does it have to be a dedicated .22lr upper to use the normal mag release? Or can it be on a marked 5.56 upper with a .22lr bolt carrier group?

I think that's one of the gray areas. Personally, I wouldn't do it.

Even if you have a .22lr conversion kit in your 5.56 upper, you still have a 5.56 centerfire chamber. It could be iffy. At the very least, get something like a bullet button wrench to use while you're in .22lr mode, or the AR-raddlock that you can unlock.

The legal question is: Is a 5.56 upper attached to a lower, a semi-automatic centerfire rifle? Yes. Is it still a semi-automatic centerfire upper with a conversion kit installed? I would bet 5 bucks that it would be very easy for a DA to argue that it's still a centerfire gun.

You don't have that murkiness with a dedicated .22lr upper.

Seesm
04-09-2009, 3:07 PM
Those mags are super nice....

I have quite a few pre ban mags and would love to be able to convert one or 3 to run 22lr... Are there any kits out there to repair (when my .223 get more worn) to turn my .223 mags (some) into 22.lr mags?

Or would that be manfacturing mags? I think not but who knows...

evan69
04-09-2009, 3:08 PM
Alright, I can live with that. Screw getting my life messed up because the some DA sees a grey area differently than I do.

CHS
04-09-2009, 6:38 PM
Those mags are super nice....

I have quite a few pre ban mags and would love to be able to convert one or 3 to run 22lr... Are there any kits out there to repair (when my .223 get more worn) to turn my .223 mags (some) into 22.lr mags?

Or would that be manfacturing mags? I think not but who knows...

That would DEFINITELY me manufacturing mags and a huge no-no.

Basically, if/when you rebuild a magazine, it must still function for the original gun that it was designed for.

A .22lr and 5.56 AR are very very different and do not accept the same magazines.

nakoomba
04-09-2009, 7:36 PM
I Love the dedicated upper. I have the Spike's Lothar Walther version that I do pretty well in the rimfire tournaments with.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9065/web1x.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=web1x.jpg)

brassburnz
04-09-2009, 11:07 PM
I just found this. It's been around since SHOT, but haven't seen any posts on Calguns. Sorry if it's a duplicate. Dealer is supposed to be $500.

http://www.onpointfirearms.com/blog/2009/01/12/colt-22lr-m4-carbine-by-umarex/

Chunky_lover
04-10-2009, 7:58 AM
I think that's one of the gray areas. Personally, I wouldn't do it.

Even if you have a .22lr conversion kit in your 5.56 upper, you still have a 5.56 centerfire chamber. It could be iffy. At the very least, get something like a bullet button wrench to use while you're in .22lr mode, or the AR-raddlock that you can unlock.

The legal question is: Is a 5.56 upper attached to a lower, a semi-automatic centerfire rifle? Yes. Is it still a semi-automatic centerfire upper with a conversion kit installed? I would bet 5 bucks that it would be very easy for a DA to argue that it's still a centerfire gun.

You don't have that murkiness with a dedicated .22lr upper.



I dont think thats an issue, you cant insert a 223 mag in the gun with a conversion kit or upper installed, nor fire a centerfire round through it. Ive seen plenty of lowers with an auto selector but they only fire semi auto. Its the same thing. It only matters what it can fire at that time, unless some crooked officer swaps out parts. But for my use I only shoot 223 and 22lr 2% of the time together, 98% is 22lr. When I do shoot both in the same day I keep the 223 bolt hidden , and bb installed just in case they would ever try that.

Born2Lose
04-10-2009, 9:30 AM
I dont think thats an issue, you cant insert a 223 mag in the gun with a conversion kit or upper installed, nor fire a centerfire round through it. Ive seen plenty of lowers with an auto selector but they only fire semi auto. Its the same thing. It only matters what it can fire at that time, unless some crooked officer swaps out parts. But for my use I only shoot 223 and 22lr 2% of the time together, 98% is 22lr. When I do shoot both in the same day I keep the 223 bolt hidden , and bb installed just in case they would ever try that.

+1 on that.
Mine is a MMG build that i put the regular pistol grip back on for .22 so if i do change out to the .223 bolt i'll make sure to swap back to my mmg first.
It's lame but much better than a felony.

CHS
04-10-2009, 9:35 AM
I just found this. It's been around since SHOT, but haven't seen any posts on Calguns. Sorry if it's a duplicate. Dealer is supposed to be $500.

http://www.onpointfirearms.com/blog/2009/01/12/colt-22lr-m4-carbine-by-umarex/

Actually, it looks like it hasn't been seen or heard from since SHOT. I can't find any actual information on it.