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wmarion6
04-06-2009, 5:25 PM
Is a belt fed only RPD legal? If my 1919A4 is shouldn't any other belt fed with a 10 round belt be legal?

thanks

ke6guj
04-06-2009, 5:27 PM
a 1919a4 is legal because it is not a rifle with a PG under the action. Any semi-auto centerfire belt-fed rifle with a PG would need to have a fixed-mag, or would need to be featureless to be able to run detachable mags.

IIRC, belts = detachable mags

domokun
04-06-2009, 10:17 PM
a 1919a4 is legal because it is not a rifle with a PG under the action. Any semi-auto centerfire belt-fed rifle with a PG would need to have a fixed-mag, or would need to be featureless to be able to run detachable mags.

IIRC, belts = detachable mags

Additionally you'd be limited to 10 round links/belts if you didn't have the links/belts prior to 1/1/2000.

Quiet
04-07-2009, 1:38 AM
It can be made CA legal.

Good luck finding one, Vector Arms was making the semi-auto only RPD but they are no longer in business.

Vector Arms RPD with MMG (pic taken at Lytle Creek during a belt fed shoot)
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_I88A6C5UfDU/SETyn2sQxPI/AAAAAAAAA6M/nkfqyDPdZmk/s640/CIMG0083.JPG

timdps
04-07-2009, 10:20 AM
Project Guns LLC is doing Semi RPDs: http://www.projectguns.com/

MGS currently has RPD parts kits.

As others have said, since its belt fed it needs to be featureless so the pistol grip needs to be removed or the space between the grip and the stock needs to be filled in with a plate of some sort.

Two of the Project Guns RPDs are coming to CA. Final decision on which grip mod will be used has not been made yet.

Tim

wizzbane
04-07-2009, 2:42 PM
know 1 will be coming to san diego. took the wood off the grip and mad a new grip wood so cant get thumb around back of grip. just my first attempt. have 2 pieces of pallet wood and a steel plate in between for strength
figure ver2 will be better , had to knock this out so could send it off to pirate

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/wizzbane/P3040001.jpg

bigcalidave
04-07-2009, 2:56 PM
WTF is that?? LOL

Sigh... The things we have to go through here..

timdps
04-07-2009, 3:25 PM
Here is a "prettier" one I found:
http://1919a4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23620&page=2

DRH
04-07-2009, 3:59 PM
know 1 will be coming to san diego. took the wood off the grip and mad a new grip wood so cant get thumb around back of grip. just my first attempt. have 2 pieces of pallet wood and a steel plate in between for strength
figure ver2 will be better , had to knock this out so could send it off to pirate

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/wizzbane/P3040001.jpg

Put a monsterman grip on it.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/drhm2hb/RPDMonsterManGrip.jpg

timdps
04-07-2009, 4:45 PM
That would work with an RPK, but one would have to cut off the pistol grip frame which is a part of the RPD receiver frame. Would have to weld it back on when the CA AWB goes away...

Put a monsterman grip on it.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/drhm2hb/RPDMonsterManGrip.jpg

DRH
04-07-2009, 4:57 PM
If you had unlimited money and resources you could have a Ca lower with a monsterman grip and a free state lower that is un-neutered. RPD parts kits were very cheap a while ago. The monsterman grip also works on RPKs and PKMs.

Experimentalist
04-07-2009, 8:53 PM
It occurs to me that it might be possible to devise a top cover lock such that it requires use of a tool to remove the ammo belt. That would take care of the removable magazine problem just as the Bullet Buttons have done for the AR-15.

timdps
04-07-2009, 10:19 PM
It occurs to me that it might be possible to devise a top cover lock such that it requires use of a tool to remove the ammo belt. That would take care of the removable magazine problem just as the Bullet Buttons have done for the AR-15.

The belt ejects (removes/detaches itself) when all the rounds are fired...

motorhead
04-08-2009, 9:35 AM
whizz that looks functional but boy is it fugly.

wizzbane
04-08-2009, 9:51 PM
yep. once I get it back I am going to use 1/4 inch thick wood to have a more pleasing look. :thumbsup: and definitely will use more then a dremel to shape the wood.... figure anything that doesn't require the grip metal to be cut off