What powder for .30-06 71grain bullet?

[nrakid88]

I want to load up some .30-06 rounds for the recoil shy shooters to shoot ou of my .30-06 bolt gun. I am going to get some .32acp 71 grain FMJ rounds, resize them to .308, and then load those... but what powder should I use? Should I just use a regular charge that I would use for a 180grain .30-06 load? Could I use the same powder and charge for the 71 grain rounds as I do for 180 grain rounds?

[Fjold]

That's a tough one, you are getting into the Wildcatter level of load development so if you're not a very experienced reloader (From the wording of your question you don't sound like you are but please don't take offense at that) it's not something that I would recommend.

Never use reduced charges of slow buring powder for light loads as you risk detonation problems.

I've reloaded for a long time and what I would do is search reloading sites for "reduced loads for 30.06" I imagine that your best results will come with using a relatively fast powder like Bluedot but it's something that I would approach very carefully.

Your best choice would probably be to use the 110 grain bullets and the starter loads listed in the reloading manuals for that.

[CSACANNONEER]

You could just get some pulled frangible bullets. They wiegh about 106 grains. I bought some from hi-tech for $40/K not long ago. I think they went up a little since then though. If you only need 50-100, PM me and wee can work something out.

[Beelzy]

Just load up some 110 grainers and be a wise reloader.

Going out of the norm when reloading AND having someone else shoot those
loads is asking for trouble. Seriously.

[knucklehead0202]

yeah, i wouldn't go much lower than 110 grain and just load 'em gently. they'll be accurate and not beat you up either. we use good 'ol varget with the 110ers but we load them kinda hot. load those light and a 5 yr old can enjoy it.

[Nodda Duma]

If you want to shoot a 30 caliber rifle with little recoil just to introduce someone to them, just get 150 grain CAST bullets (gas-checked if you want) and put 16 grains of Alliant 2400 underneath it. You get to shoot 30 cal with very little recoil. Very little fouling.

It is easy to find them as well if you do a little bit of looking.

-Jason

[11Z50]

I used to load 30/22 sabots and they were quite the ticket in some of my guns. You used to be able to buy the .308 sabot and then seat any .224 bullet into them. I loaded some 7.62X54R for my Finn M39 and they were surprisingly accurate, as well as pushing 4000 fps. Almost no recoil, but quite a boom.

[gunboat]

In my old log book I found reference to using 311252 a 77 grainer in my 30/30 with 3.7gr of unique -- no notes, so can't say how accurate it was -- Looking at 311252 it is barely more than a round ball so I doubt it was a tack driver --- With that short a body I would not worry about the few thou oversize ----- I do have notes on using speer "plinkers" a 110 gr jacketed soft nose in the '06 with 50 gr of ball c -- good load --

[Mike 56]

Instead of using such a small bullet i would use "The Load" http://www.castbulletassoc.org/forum/view_topic.php?id=1387&forum_id=22&page=1 13gr of Red Dot and a 150gr bullet cast or jacketed. This load has almost no recoil and is about as load as a 22 rifle. It can be used as a practice round out to 200yd. Ten gr of unique will also work as a 50yd practice round this load cuts 1/2 groups from my K-31.

Mike

[CSACANNONEER]

Instead of using such a small bullet i would use "The Load" http://www.castbulletassoc.org/forum/view_topic.php?id=1387&forum_id=22&page=1 13gr of Red Dot and a 150gr bullet cast or jacketed. This load has almost no recoil and is about as load as a 22 rifle. It can be used as a practice round out to 200yd. Ten gr of unique will also work as a 50yd practice round this load cuts 1/2 groups from my K-31.

Mike

I have used 6.9gr of Red Dot to push a 150gr hardcast bullet out of a 30-30 with virtualy no recoil. I'll have to work the load up a bit and see if I can tell the difference in recoil.

[2c5s]

I used to load 30/22 sabots and they were quite the ticket in some of my guns. You used to be able to buy the .308 sabot and then seat any .224 bullet into them. I loaded some 7.62X54R for my Finn M39 and they were surprisingly accurate, as well as pushing 4000 fps. Almost no recoil, but quite a boom.

That's what I was doing back in the day. Screamers!!!!

[freonr22]

I want to load up some .30-06 rounds for the recoil shy shooters to shoot ou of my .30-06 bolt gun. I am going to get some .32acp 71 grain FMJ rounds, resize them to .308, and then load those... but what powder should I use? Should I just use a regular charge that I would use for a 180grain .30-06 load? Could I use the same powder and charge for the 71 grain rounds as I do for 180 grain rounds?
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This load was developed using Remington round-nosed, jacketed, full metal jacket bullets.
In terms of power, the developer considers this a light load.
The velocity measurement is by chronograph.
Government cases and Winchester LR primers were used in development

[nrakid88]

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Load submitted by 'alcan7'.
This load was developed using Remington round-nosed, jacketed, full metal jacket bullets.
In terms of power, the developer considers this a light load.
The velocity measurement is by chronograph.
Government cases and Winchester LR primers were used in development

So would this be considered a safe source to work off of? Or should I leave it alone and not get hurt?