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Librarian
03-26-2009, 7:23 PM
Time to get out the opposition...

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_697&sess=0910&house=B&author=desaulnier


SB 697, as introduced, DeSaulnier. Firearms: owner-authorized
handguns.
Existing law establishes criteria for determining if a handgun is
unsafe. Existing law generally requires manufacturers to submit
samples of new handgun models for testing to determine if they are
unsafe or may be approved for sale, as specified. Other provisions of
existing law, subject to exceptions, generally make it an offense to
manufacture or sell a handgun that is not safe.
This bill would provide that commencing 18 months following the
Attorney General's reporting that owner-authorized handguns are
available for retail sale, as specified, a handgun would be unsafe if
it was not owner-authorized, as defined, and would provide an
exception to these provisions for the sale, loan, or transfer of
handguns manufactured in or imported into this state prior to that
date, as specified. The bill would specify requirements that
owner-authorized handguns would be required to meet in order for the
Attorney General to determine that owner-authorized handguns are
available for retail sale, and in order to comply with certain safety
standards, as specified.
The bill would require the Attorney General, commencing July 1,
2010, and every July 1 thereafter through 2015, to report to the
Governor and the Legislature regarding the progress made on the
availability for retail sale of owner-authorized handguns, as
specified.


Hearing before Senate Public Safety on 4/28
TUESDAY, APRIL 28, 2009

PUBLIC SAFETY LENO, Chair 9:30 a.m. - John L. Burton Hearing Room (4203)
BILLS WILL BE HEARD IN FILE ORDER S.B. No. 174 Strickland. Public safety.
S.B. No. 566 Hollingsworth. Monitoring devices: unauthorized removal, disabling, or tampering
S.B. No. 697 DeSaulnier. Firearms: owner-authorized handguns.

Members:
Senator Mark Leno (Chair)
State Capitol, Room 4061
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 651-4003

Senator John J. Benoit (Vice-Chair)
State Capitol, Room 4066
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 651-4037
Fax: (916) 327-2187

Senator Gilbert Cedillo
State Capitol, Room 5100
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 651-4022

Senator Loni Hancock
State Capitol, Room 3092
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 651-4009
Fax: (916) 327-1997

Senator Robert Huff
State Capitol, Room 3048
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 651-4029
Fax: (916) 324-0922

Senator Darrell Steinberg
State Capitol, Room 205
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 651-4006
Fax: (916) 323-2263

Senator Roderick Wright
State Capitol, Room 5064
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 651-4025


Addresses & Staff:
Chief Counsel: Alison Anderson
Counsels: Mary Kennedy, Jerome McGuire and Steven Meinrath
Assistants: Barbara Reynolds and Mona Cano
Phone: (916)651-4118
Room 2031

NiteQwill
03-26-2009, 8:21 PM
"owner authorized handguns"

God, I wanna puke...

chris
03-26-2009, 8:30 PM
oh god not this crap again?!!!!

CHS
03-26-2009, 8:41 PM
It's cute how they get to constantly redefine what is safe.

unusedusername
03-26-2009, 8:55 PM
So... what exactly is a "owner authorized handgun"?

Perhaps I'm a newb... but I have not seen/heard about this before...

wilit
03-26-2009, 8:58 PM
I waiting for the day when they decide guns need to meet EPA air quality standards and we have to fit catalytic converters on our barrels.

kermit
03-26-2009, 9:27 PM
So... what exactly is a "owner authorized handgun"?

Perhaps I'm a newb... but I have not seen/heard about this before...

From the draft language:

g) As used in this section, an "owner-authorized handgun" means a
handgun that has a permanent programmable biometric or other
permanent programmable feature as part of its original manufacture
that renders the handgun incapable of being fired except when
activated by the lawful owner or other users authorized by the lawful
owner, and that cannot be readily deactivated.
(1) An owner-authorized handgun shall only be programmed by a
licensed dealer.
(2) Biometric data collected for purposes of programming the
owner-authorized handgun shall not be used for any purpose other than
programming the owner-authorized handgun.
(3) The Department of Justice shall not retain any biometric data
that may be stored in an owner-authorized handgun.

Sounds like the DNA sampling guns in the "Judge Dredd" movie

(c) In addition to complying with the provisions of subdivisions
(a) and (b), as applicable, owner-authorized handguns shall comply
with the following performance standards:
(1) The firearm shall not fail to recognize the authorized user,
and shall not falsely recognize an unauthorized user, more than one
time per thousand recognition attempts.
(2) The time from first contact to use recognition and firearm
enablement shall be no more than 0.5 seconds.
(3) The time from loss of contact with the authorized user to
firearm disablement shall be no more than 0.5 seconds.
(4) When the firearm is enabled, the "ready" condition shall be
indicated by a visible indicator.
(5) If the firearm is battery operated, the firearm shall be
equipped with a "low power" indicator that emits an audible signal.

(6) If the user is not recognized, or if the power supply fails,
the firearm shall be inoperable.
(7) Enabling authorized user information shall be stored in the
firearm as permanent memory that is restored when power is restored.

(8) The firearm shall be capable of use by more than one
authorized user and, if the firearm uses hand recognition technology,
it shall recognize either of the authorized user's hands.

yellowfin
03-26-2009, 9:52 PM
I waiting for the day when they decide guns need to meet EPA air quality standards and we have to fit catalytic converters on our barrels. I've long been a proponent of all of them having mufflers. For some reason CA lags way behind on firearm noise pollution control.

domokun
03-26-2009, 10:14 PM
:eek: NOT AGAIN?!!!?

http://rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk/Kill%20it%20With%20Fire%20Aliens.jpg

Backinblack1234
03-26-2009, 10:19 PM
That is my former religion teachers brother. I told him that his brother is was wrong and only wants to restrict law abiding citizens rights in order to give a feel good feeling to the public.

yellowfin
03-26-2009, 10:27 PM
That is my former religion teachers brother. I told him that his brother is was wrong and only wants to restrict law abiding citizens rights in order to give a feel good feeling to the public.

That's a little mild, isn't it? How about selling people's safety for votes for him.

leitung
03-26-2009, 10:30 PM
Same crap from last year, same crap different day..

E-mail will be sent..

jumbopanda
03-26-2009, 10:35 PM
I love it when they try to legislate technology that doesn't exist yet. Maybe they should also require that all cars sold from now on be hover cars. These are just some of the worst people on Earth.

kap
03-26-2009, 11:02 PM
How do they get away with resubmitting and recycling the same old crap every year. I guess they figure the squeaky wheel will get lubed, but I like the Japanese saying better in this case "The nail that sticks up gets hammered down." Unfortunately, gun control is conformity in Sac. :(

Untamed1972
03-27-2009, 7:10 AM
I love it when they try to legislate technology that doesn't exist yet. Maybe they should also require that all cars sold from now on be hover cars. These are just some of the worst people on Earth.

That's what I was thinking.....such tech doesn't even exist yet and if it did it would make a handgun cost $20,000 and weigh and extra couple of pounds.

Please excuse me while I roll my eyes!

I was thinking yesterday that I a problem with our current system of government is that these lawmakers have to do something to justify their existence. If all in the sudden we said "Hey....we have enough laws, you're not allowed to make anymore." Then what would they do? What rhetoric would they use to get elected? Running on a campaign of "I'm just gonna sit there and collect a paycheck cuz there's nothing to do" wouldn't get you very far to getting that nice, cushy legislator job.

I think it's time we insist on a moritorium on making new laws, but allow the removing of existing laws and make the job of legislator a part time job. That would save the state millions of $$$$$'s.

As a bumper sticker I have over my desk says "U.S. government policy: If it ain't broke....fix it till it is."

Time to tell them to stop "fixing things" that aren't broke.

Decoligny
03-27-2009, 7:54 AM
From the draft language:


(6) If the user is not recognized, or if the power supply fails,the firearm shall be inoperable.


I can see the news now: "Energizer Bunny sued in wrongful death suit. Cinvenience Store owner was killed by a robber when his handgun failed to provide the protection it was designed to, because the batteries had died."

CHS
03-27-2009, 8:09 AM
Even if the tech existed, and even if this became law, there are two fundamental problems with it:

1.) PPT's. It would have to be fairly easy to change the "owner", nullifying the effectiveness. A criminal gets a gun like this? Easy, he just changes himself to be the owner.

2.) A mechanically minded person (or crooked gunsmith) could simply remove the technology from the gun, making these guns still useful for criminals.

CowboyShooter
03-27-2009, 8:18 AM
Even if the tech existed, and even if this became law, there are two fundamental problems with it:

1.) PPT's. It would have to be fairly easy to change the "owner", nullifying the effectiveness. A criminal gets a gun like this? Easy, he just changes himself to be the owner.

2.) A mechanically minded person (or crooked gunsmith) could simply remove the technology from the gun, making these guns still useful for criminals.

Now DON"T go trying to apply LOGIC to something coming out of Sacramento!:eek:

You'll just make yourself crazy....:willy_nilly:




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