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Travis8128
03-20-2009, 11:08 PM
i have two more years until i will enlist in the u.s. army.

and im interested in being an MP.

what do you guys think of this postition?

i want to pursue law enforcement as a career so i think this would be a great way to get started.

sorry if this is the wrong forum i just guess the guys that would be in the know about this stuff would be here.

dwa
03-20-2009, 11:41 PM
scum of the earth...but its coming from an infantry guy. the chicks are how do you say..."friendly"

smokingloon
03-21-2009, 12:00 AM
Get used to the term Blue Falcon.

Mr. Magoo
03-21-2009, 12:03 AM
You dont have to be an MP for law enforcement I would think. Just being in the Army should give you the skills and experience needed.

I could also be completely wrong.

Travis8128
03-21-2009, 12:05 AM
scum of the earth...but its coming from an infantry guy. the chicks are how do you say..."friendly"
And why is this?
Not that I disagree I just don't have an opinion on this position at all yet.
Still have two years to figure out exactly what I want to do in the army.

Travis8128
03-21-2009, 12:08 AM
You dont have to be an MP for law enforcement I would think. Just being in the Army should give you the skills and experience needed.

I could also be completely wrong.
Your not.
The only thing you really NEED to be in law enforcement is a high school degree.
It just looks better on your resume and will get you promoted way fast.

Same thing with a college degeree which I'm also going for after the army.

Jamez
03-21-2009, 1:12 AM
Depends on other factors.
If you're in a Transportation unit and you're tired of moving boxes around all day and want to have some REAL fun, yes go MP, hell go ANYTHING :)

I'm in the 270th in Sac, I really like it.

nick
03-21-2009, 1:41 AM
Damn MPs...

B.D.Dubloon
03-21-2009, 2:30 AM
Your not.
The only thing you really NEED to be in law enforcement is a high school degree.
It just looks better on your resume and will get you promoted way fast.

Same thing with a college degeree which I'm also going for after the army.

A marine buddy of mine who applied for a bunch of LE jobs in Oregon told me that they only gave his service the weight of a 2 year degree. I am sure it varies by department but you might be better off going to college and getting a bachelor's.

BDD

Maddog5150
03-21-2009, 7:35 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/2612955687_a98c5c9f30_o.jpg
:D

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-50863389838911_2042_21072021

Stockton
03-21-2009, 8:06 AM
You want to be just city PD/county sheriff?...be mp/infantry/scout. Those will be career pushers. Want to be a DEA/ATF/SS/FBI/HS/Contractor?.... then think about the special ops community. Stay in touch with friends. Never hurts to have someone inside already. There are plenty of people who have a had none of the above work in those areas. But if your looking to boost your name towards the top of the wanted list by agencies then you're on the right track.

Travis8128
03-21-2009, 11:24 AM
A marine buddy of mine who applied for a bunch of LE jobs in Oregon told me that they only gave his service the weight of a 2 year degree. I am sure it varies by department but you might be better off going to college and getting a bachelor's.

BDD

my plan so far is,

i join the army, serve my country for x amount of time.

get hired as a custody assitant(working in the jails) and go to college at the same time.

once im out of college im going to promote up to just being on patrol, or a "street cop"

being in the army should help with some of my funds for college but being a custody assitant while i go to college they pay %60 percent of your college and you can even apply to get money for books or whatever school wise.

plus the 40k a year salary that starts up right when you start the academy:cool:.

The Soup Nazi
03-21-2009, 2:02 PM
MP's are the human embodiments of Blue Falcons. Should just wave us through the gates more often.

Being a MP helps at a varying degree from department to department, but you should still make it a priority to pursue a bachelors degree while serving. Even taking some college courses in your off time will be worth the effort especially if the Army has the same kind of tuition assistance programs like the Marine Corps does (pretty much free money, and I like dollars). Just like a promotion board, if numbers are tight, do they want the applicant with military service, the applicant with a bachelors degree, or the applicant with a bachelors degree and prior military experience?

dwa
03-21-2009, 2:48 PM
And why is this?
Not that I disagree I just don't have an opinion on this position at all yet.
Still have two years to figure out exactly what I want to do in the army.

mps have to deal with the infantry when we get drunk and feel like breaking stuff. its kinda a rivalry thing the females in my experience like to party though.

DVLDOC
03-21-2009, 2:54 PM
Get used to the term Blue Falcon.
:D True

Travis8128
03-21-2009, 5:09 PM
the applicant with a bachelors degree and prior military experience?

and thats exactly what im going for.

CavTrooper
03-21-2009, 7:01 PM
Why are you waiting 2 years?

Travis8128
03-21-2009, 7:10 PM
Why are you waiting 2 years?

gotta graduate highschool and turn 18;)

pjmeado
03-21-2009, 8:52 PM
Travis,

I spent 8 years in the Army, mostly as an intelligence analyst (yeah, yeah, I've heard all the jokes). But I did learn some things in that time.

Just some things to keep in mind. First, as an MP you are going to fill one of two primary positions, either head to Iraq and patrol, and stay at a stateside base and give out speeding tickets. Second, having the military experience in general is a great thing for a law enforcement job, but keep in mind that depending on who is doing the hiring at the time previous MP experience may not help you out. LE friends in one town I lived in while in CA and another in VA that some agencies would rather just see the military experience due to the discipline factor and not so much the MP experience due to the fact that they have had experiences with former MP's who feel as though they already know the job and are harder to train for civilian LE.

Another avenue to think about is to look into the CID (Criminal Investigation Division) of the military. Think about it as the difference between being a street cop, and a detective.

Also, if you pick a route such as an interrogator, you will not only learn a second language but pick up great skills in the LE world as well as carry a top secret clearance which will open up doors to the CIA, FBI, DEA, not to mention all the other 3 letter government agencies.

Anyway, just my 2 cents from my experience.

Pete

Travis8128
03-21-2009, 9:14 PM
Travis,

I spent 8 years in the Army, mostly as an intelligence analyst (yeah, yeah, I've heard all the jokes). But I did learn some things in that time.

Just some things to keep in mind. First, as an MP you are going to fill one of two primary positions, either head to Iraq and patrol, and stay at a stateside base and give out speeding tickets. Second, having the military experience in general is a great thing for a law enforcement job, but keep in mind that depending on who is doing the hiring at the time previous MP experience may not help you out. LE friends in one town I lived in while in CA and another in VA that some agencies would rather just see the military experience due to the discipline factor and not so much the MP experience due to the fact that they have had experiences with former MP's who feel as though they already know the job and are harder to train for civilian LE.

Another avenue to think about is to look into the CID (Criminal Investigation Division) of the military. Think about it as the difference between being a street cop, and a detective.

Also, if you pick a route such as an interrogator, you will not only learn a second language but pick up great skills in the LE world as well as carry a top secret clearance which will open up doors to the CIA, FBI, DEA, not to mention all the other 3 letter government agencies.

Anyway, just my 2 cents from my experience.

Pete


thank you so much.

great post.

probably will read again.

i have been talking to my law enforcement teacher, and my highschool recuiter and they have basically said the same thing that you stated in the first paragraph; that just any millitary experience at all helps.


and i dont think i could be an interrigator because, i mean i could kill someone before they shoot me or someone else, but the way they suck info out of people i just dont know if i could do some of those things.

i'll look into CID and see if it would be something im interested in. Is this a position you would be deployed in?

because i want to be deployed. i might hate that descion but im willing to deal with it.

Travis8128
03-21-2009, 9:15 PM
also what do you have to score on your ASVAB to become a CID

pjmeado
03-21-2009, 9:22 PM
Travis,

Yeah the CID guys deploy as well. You don't see many of them deployed, but at the same time, you don't see them all that often anyway..mostly because a lot (if not all) of them tend to be in civilian clothes (at least from what I have seen). Anyway, as far as deploying, special investigations need to be done at forward bases as well as on bases in the states.

Keep in mind 2 things regarding interrogators. First,that while there have been some questionable activities brought up regarding the interrogation of prisoners, some of it has been blown out of proportion and latched onto by the media. Second, think about it in a different way, if you would be willing to kill in order to save your own life or the life of another, why not interrogate and save the life of 10's, 100's or even 1000's through the information you obtain. Just something to think about.

Pete

pjmeado
03-21-2009, 9:23 PM
ASVAB score..not 100% sure, but the common theme for intelligence and the like is a 110 GT score. Have you taken the ASVAB yet?

Travis8128
03-21-2009, 9:25 PM
ASVAB score..not 100% sure, but the common theme for intelligence and the like is a 110 GT score. Have you taken the ASVAB yet?

nah. still in high school.

second im out im enlisting though.

Travis8128
03-21-2009, 9:28 PM
Travis,

Yeah the CID guys deploy as well. You don't see many of them deployed, but at the same time, you don't see them all that often anyway..mostly because a lot (if not all) of them tend to be in civilian clothes (at least from what I have seen). Anyway, as far as deploying, special investigations need to be done at forward bases as well as on bases in the states.

Keep in mind 2 things regarding interrogators. First,that while there have been some questionable activities brought up regarding the interrogation of prisoners, some of it has been blown out of proportion and latched onto by the media. Second, think about it in a different way, if you would be willing to kill in order to save your own life or the life of another, why not interrogate and save the life of 10's, 100's or even 1000's through the information you obtain. Just something to think about.

Pete

true.

but not something i think i would do to great in.

pjmeado
03-21-2009, 9:29 PM
Get one of those ASVAB study books. Some people don't like them, but they will at least get your familiar with the types of questions asked.

pjmeado
03-21-2009, 9:31 PM
true.

but not something i think i would do to great in.

Yeah, it's definatly not for everyone. Makes your friends and family hate talking to you :) they always think your trying to get info out of them

Travis8128
03-21-2009, 9:32 PM
Get one of those ASVAB study books. Some people don't like them, but they will at least get your familiar with the types of questions asked.

haha my law enforcement teacher actually bought me one of these.

Travis8128
03-21-2009, 9:35 PM
Thanks for all the help guys.

further helping my descision on how im going to start my adult life:eek:

NiteQwill
03-21-2009, 10:32 PM
If you like to escort "cheesecake," be an MP. If you want real excitement in your life, be an 11B or a medic (or 18 series). ;)

Maddog5150
03-22-2009, 12:09 AM
And who doesnt love medics? :D
They carry instant hangover cures >_<

Soldier415
03-26-2009, 6:01 AM
so what do you guys think of MP?

I think that by now they should have learned that if they try to break up a drunken engineer party, they are going to have their heads knocked around some. :)