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problemchild
03-15-2009, 8:33 AM
http://www.michaelkdickson.com/webjunk/500custom/500-3.jpg

Kingofthehill
03-15-2009, 8:41 AM
That is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!! DO they offer it like that now or did you have it done?... i can't recall what PVD coating is either???

JOe

battleship
03-15-2009, 8:44 AM
Looks great, how much did this cost to do and by who?

And are you just showing it off or do you have it for sale?

QuarterBoreGunner
03-15-2009, 8:48 AM
Looks like Hellboy's revolver. Neat-O.

TKM
03-15-2009, 8:50 AM
Show and tell rocks in Kestrylls' Kindergarten.

Damn, that's a nice piece.

problemchild
03-15-2009, 9:08 AM
I bought the gun and had one of my customers PVD coat'ed the parts. Its not for sale. Also you really cant shoot it with the wood grips as it hurts like HELL! Maybe 1 or 2 rounds and your hand is saying WTF? My customer wont coat handguns so it was just a favor to me. There ,may be some PVD people who will do it but they usually have a minimum. The bullets are 700gr hardcast that a member here gave me. The knockdown factor is b ig enough for charging bull elephants (Not saying I would try that).

B Strong
03-15-2009, 9:31 AM
Man!

that is nice, where do I go and (if you don't mind me asking) How much?

Edit: Bleh! should have read the whole thread

JTROKS
03-15-2009, 9:36 AM
Holy Schneikeys! What does the chrono say on those 700 grain bullets? The recoil must be intense. That's a beeeastifull gun.

ricknadine1111
03-15-2009, 9:39 AM
Awsome, I would like to coat my 45 long colt

proraptor
03-15-2009, 9:42 AM
Ive always like the 500 and 460 series in black....I just dont understand why S&W doesnt make more of them in black

Twinspool
03-15-2009, 7:20 PM
Very pretty! Please shoot it a while and let us know how it holds up. I have a two-tone 500 and the reason it wasn't solid black (matte stainless cylinder) was because the maximum design pressure of that cartridge is 60kpsi and that makes coating longevity a challenge. How resilient is the PVD?

The 700gr bullets are neat to see filling every bit of that 2.3" cylinder, but they don't recoil too bad. The 500grain Hornady SP loads are the most punishing load I've fired out of mine.

I'm really curious if the 700gr bullet will stabilize out of a barrel that short. Range report!

Just an FYI to other X-frame shooters, Leadhead bullets at www.proshootpro.com has a nice product and reasonable prices. I shot about 20 rounds of the 465gr gas checked on top of 31gr of H110 today and it worked great. Accurate and powerful with easy case extraction.

92G-SD
03-16-2009, 12:33 AM
Wow, that looks really good!

battleship
03-16-2009, 12:46 AM
Twinspool or the OP please advise.

From what Twinspool just wrote confuse's me somewhat, how does the recoil from the 700 grain feel less than the hornady 500 grain i always thought the larger the grain of the bullet the greater the actuall recoil.

In the case of the 4 inch 500 i have also read that they do not advise firing the 700 grain bullets out of the 4 inch barrel version because it becomes extremely unstable. what are your own experiences with this load in a smaller barrel 500.

I have the same gun in the stainless and have only fired 400 and 500 grain bullets out of her i was wanting to purchase the 700 grain just to see the difference in recoil effect, but if what your saying is true Twinspool then i would be better sticking with the 500 grain or just go to the 600 grain, your thoughts please.

Twinspool
03-16-2009, 4:38 AM
In my experience, the 700 gr cartridges recoil is less severe than others. It pushes to be sure, but the velocity of recoil is lower. Recoil is linked to muzzle energy, not bullet mass. And yes, the 500 gr loads from Ballistic Supply are the hardest hitting I have fired.

700s are stable out of my 5" 500, but it is a 1:10 twist with no compensator so the lands and grooves are a full 5" long, I think compensated guns give up 3/4" or so of effective rifling.

lunde
03-16-2009, 4:59 AM
Very nice! One of my S&W 500 revolvers came with a blackened stainless steel frame, but the (unfluted) cylinder, trigger, hammer, takedown latch, screws, and compensator are hard-chromed.

http://lundestudio.com/photos/sw500pc75-s-nill-left-full.jpg

http://lundestudio.com/photos/sw500pc75-s-nill-right-full.jpg

Sans scope and with its original grips:

http://lundestudio.com/photos/sw500pc75black-left-full.jpg

http://lundestudio.com/photos/sw500pc75black-right-full.jpg

I should do what you did to yours to my smaller one:

http://lundestudio.com/photos/sw500-4-nill-left-full.jpg

http://lundestudio.com/photos/sw500-4-nill-right-full.jpg

saki302
03-16-2009, 5:34 AM
Problemchild-

That looks familiar- is it the one we reassembled in my garage? :)
Looks nice with the wood grips!

I'm still hoping S&W makes a non-compensated 5" barreled one.

-Dave

Twinspool
03-16-2009, 4:42 PM
I'm still hoping S&W makes a non-compensated 5" barreled one.


They did, but only 250 in SS and another 250 in two-tone finish. I'd like to get my gun's twin in stainless.

Here's mine.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18975&stc=1&d=1237254255

They're available HERE (http://john-ross.net/store.php)

Review available HERE (http://www.gunblast.com/LT_SW-JohnRoss500.htm)

Lunde: Please talk to me about the Nill grips! Are they as pleasing functionally as they are aesthetically?

hellraiser
03-16-2009, 4:49 PM
ive never seen these in black... exactly how rare are these or can i just order it that way...

lunde
03-16-2009, 5:02 PM
Twinspool, you wrote:Lunde: Please talk to me about the Nill grips! Are they as pleasing functionally as they are aesthetically?In terms of absorbing recoil, nothing is better than the factory grips. But, the Nill grips, with their highly ergonomic contouring, do qute well. The ones that I have on my four-inch one are SW186PHG8, and the ones on my PC are SW18X8.

BTW, thank you for the URLs for the John Ross version!

Kid Stanislaus
03-16-2009, 6:09 PM
Drop back to some 400 gr. JHPs at reduced velocity and the wood grips would work just fine. The devasting effect on a perp wouldn't be anything you'd want to be showing the kids!!

bombadillo
03-17-2009, 8:43 AM
At the low low cost of only two dollars per round.........



Man I wish I could afford to shoot one of those things. Guess I'll stick to my .45's

Twinspool
03-17-2009, 3:52 PM
At the low low cost of only two dollars per round.........



Man I wish I could afford to shoot one of those things. Guess I'll stick to my .45's

Not quite, but close, and that's new ammo in some premium Starline brass.

On the reload: LR primers are $0.045 each (when you find 'em!), a gas-checked 465gr bullet is $0.33 and 31 grains of H110 is worth about $0.22. With some pleasant time spent assembling these components I have a powerful, flat shooting round that's whomping great fun for sixty cents a piece. I think it's a bargain. I don't plan on firewalling the throttles on my loads so I should be able to load the brass several times before annealing or purchasing new brass which helps keep costs down.

CRTguns
03-17-2009, 9:28 PM
That is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!! DO they offer it like that now or did you have it done?... i can't recall what PVD coating is either???

JOe

PVD= Physical Vapor Deposition. The method used to apply Titanium Nitride, Titanium Carbonitride, etc... tool coatings mostly- like the barrels on SV guns and the Gold DEs. Expensive to get it done usually- not many places will do it. The issue is that it is done at a Gnat's *** under 70 degrees- close to the temp that steel can lose its temper.

CRTguns
03-17-2009, 9:28 PM
and WTF with the Hussein bucks?

WTF?

TonyM
03-18-2009, 3:45 AM
and WTF with the Hussein bucks?

WTF?


The pic is older (07/2006) and has been posted before. I thought someone was necro-posting when I saw this thread.

Max-the-Silent
03-18-2009, 5:19 AM
That is one good looking wheelgun. I like the 700 grainers too.