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jlh95811
03-15-2009, 1:42 AM
Of course the cheaper the better but willing to pay for quality.

Things of interest to me:
Double stack(not dead set but would be added bonus)
Must have dovetail front sight and Novak rear would be nice as well.

I've been really looking for a nice carry .45. Unfortunately most small guns seem to have crap triggers. So a 1911 seems the best option. I've seen some Colt's and Kimber's on the market but not much in double stack. Any opinions on the Para's?

Any other small .45's that might have a good enough trigger to consider?

NiteQwill
03-15-2009, 1:54 AM
Doesn't qualify for double stack BUT...

I've carry a Kimber CDP Pro when traveling out of state and it fits all my criteria. Shoots and operates straight. Not one malfunction in 1500 rounds.

maschronic
03-15-2009, 2:08 AM
i have para warthog. double stack 1911. mag holds 10 rounds!! the only thing is that you should use 185 grain instead of 230 grain. otherwise, i love mine!!

jlh95811
03-15-2009, 2:12 AM
i have para warthog. double stack 1911. mag holds 10 rounds!! the only thing is that you should use 185 grain instead of 230 grain. otherwise, i love mine!!

Why 185's?
If that's the case why not opt for .40?

fun2none
03-15-2009, 3:32 AM
For a compact 1911, the Kimber Ultra Ten II is awesome.

If you are budget sensitive, the Taurus PT145 MilPro is ok once you get used to the trigger.

jlh95811
03-15-2009, 3:35 AM
For a compact 1911, the Kimber Ultra Ten II is awesome.

If you are budget sensitive, the Taurus PT145 MilPro is ok once you get used to the trigger.

I checked out the taurus once. The trigger is AWful. That Kimber appears to be a polymer frame. Interesting.

tonelar
03-15-2009, 4:03 AM
Sig P245 (or maybe the current P220 compact)
Out of the box, my 245 really had it all. If your shots hit where your pointing, 6+1 230grn .45s won't steer you wrong.

You're talking concealed carry or open? A double stack 45 isn't going to hide as well IMHO.

jlh95811
03-15-2009, 4:20 AM
Sig P245 (or maybe the current P220 compact)
Out of the box, my 245 really had it all. If your shots hit where your pointing, 6+1 230grn .45s won't steer you wrong.

You're talking concealed carry or open? A double stack 45 isn't going to hide as well IMHO.

Talking concealed. Sig Compacts are not really compact IMO. I see your point on the hideability factor for double stack. But I have a special setup in mind.

I'll elaborate:
Get some cargo pants or shorts. Cut out the inside of the pocket leaving a large hole covered by the flap. Use a thigh holster. Be sure to re-hem the inside of the pocket where you cut it so it will not fray and ruin the pants.

Bad Guy says "Gimme your money!"
OK; reach into your pockets. One hand produces a wallet; the other produces pain for the BG. :43:

Miltiades
03-15-2009, 5:25 AM
Given your spec of a double stack .45 for carry, the one that first comes to my mind is the H&K USP 45 compact. This is a 24 ounce gun with polymer frame, DA/SA trigger and 10 round capacity (as I recall). It has the advantage of being very rugged and reliable. I've had the .40 caliber version of this gun for several years and it has worked perfectly through thousands of rounds. Here is my .40, which looks almost identical to the .45:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/pogo2/HKUSP40c30.jpg

My other suggestion, if you would relax your double stack requirement, is the Colt Defender. This gun weighs the same as the USP 45c, but is slimmer and more concealable with a better trigger feel. The capacity is 7+1 with the right magazine. I've owned one for several years and it has been reliable and accurate for me.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/pogo2/ColtDefender43.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/pogo2/ColtDefender42.jpg

Jonathan Doe
03-15-2009, 7:42 AM
Look into Sig P220 also. A good gun.

atavuss
03-15-2009, 8:01 AM
not double stacks but look into the Colt Defender or Colt New Agent, both are .45ACP. the New Agent would be more snag proof

maschronic
03-15-2009, 8:26 AM
Why 185's?
If that's the case why not opt for .40?

it is a 3" barrrel. tiny. when i bought it, i wasn't aware that it would have a problem extracting a 230grain bullet. its not every time, but about 1 out of 10. when i read about it, people said to use 185 grain bullet and the problem should go away. they were right. never happened again.

the only reason of getting the warthog was so i can consolidate my ammo. i shoot 9 and 45.

Bongos
03-15-2009, 8:30 AM
My vote is the Nighthawk Talon IV, concealment perfection! John (Maschronic) is right though, 185 Grn is great for the smaller 1911s. Less recoil and improves reliability. That said my Talon eats everything but then again it cost 3-4 times the Warthog so I expect it to perform.

B Strong
03-15-2009, 10:38 AM
I've used a Detonics Mk. 1 in the past. 100% reliable with factory mags.

The Glock 30 would fit your critera. Get an aftermarket barrel and have at it.

Bobshouse
03-15-2009, 11:17 AM
I was also looking for a CCW in .45 and ended up getting a Glock 30sf. The whole gun with kydex IWB holster is just a little larger than my hand. Super comfortable to carry and is just 2 ounces heavier than my SP101 fully loaded. Only difference is I have 10 rounds of .45 instead of 5 rounds of .357..

jlh95811
03-15-2009, 1:23 PM
I hate to be the guy who seems to knock down all the suggestions but here goes.

Problem with most 3" 1911's is fixed sights. Whatever gun I get, I want to put TFO's on it so I can use it in all light situations.

Problem with Glocks is slide bite. The tang is too stubby and my hand rides high. Have not been bit yet but I've only shot a G19 for about 30 rounds.

Maybe I SHOULD consider a slightly larger gun like a Springfield Champion but alas it's not double stack.

cineski
03-15-2009, 1:43 PM
XD45c? I can't imagine trying to conceal this, but it's double stack, reliable and not a glock.

wildhawker
03-15-2009, 2:33 PM
Miltiades is right on; two great options there. That USP Compact just flat shoots, and fits in the hand quite well for both of us.

The wife just bought a Kimber Eclipse Ultra II; hope to get in line and get this treatment (http://www.tusseycustom.com/articlekimbercompacts.htm) (more here (http://www.tusseycustom.com/eclipsepricelist.htm)) at some point. Was on the fence about the CDP Ultra, decided that we were more comfortable with an all-stainless frame as a starting point for a custom job (the weight after the custom work -34 ounces from the factory- is not too far off the CDP's 25 ounces).

Overkill
03-15-2009, 2:54 PM
XD45c? I can't imagine trying to conceal this, but it's double stack, reliable and not a glock.

I have one for CCW work. GREAT gun. The compact frame holds 10 rounds, nd Springfield has done a great job on the frame. It feels much more slim than the .45 glocks or hks I've felt. As for weight, fully loaded its about the weight of a lightweight commander. The XDs are some of the most naturally pointing guns for me.

My XD45c replaced my John Harrison custom lightweight Commander as a carry weapon.

CaliTheKid
03-15-2009, 2:58 PM
Another vote for the HK USPc or the HK45c.:thumbsup:

SVRider
03-15-2009, 5:40 PM
I have one for CCW work. GREAT gun. The compact frame holds 10 rounds, nd Springfield has done a great job on the frame. It feels much more slim than the .45 glocks or hks I've felt. As for weight, fully loaded its about the weight of a lightweight commander. The XDs are some of the most naturally pointing guns for me.

My XD45c replaced my John Harrison custom lightweight Commander as a carry weapon.

All agreed. I didn't like the factory trigger (I'm spoiled by good 1911 triggers), but a quick trip to Jeremy at SA Custom fixed everything. Had him refit the barrel, swap the sights for Heinie Slant Pro Straight Eights and do a "competition" trigger job (shorten both takeup and reset) and set to about 4.5lbs. It's not quite a 1911 trigger, but not too far off....

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One Shot, One Dropped
03-15-2009, 8:02 PM
For capacity and concealment (lightweight too), I am a big fan of the go-to polymer guns: HK (USPc, 45c), Glock, XD (with the trigger work, or XDm (it already has a better trigger)).