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Groundhog66
03-13-2009, 2:11 PM
When did they start making these in Brazil?

M1A Rifleman
03-13-2009, 2:14 PM
When did they start making these in Brazil?

Not sure when, but it seems they started marking their frames "made in brazil" about 8-10 years ago. Bummer huh.

Groundhog66
03-13-2009, 2:23 PM
Are they still a good gun?

Japsican
03-13-2009, 2:26 PM
Are they still a good gun?

Yes, they are still Great guns.

Imbel produces quality products so I wouldnt be too concerned about the frames/slides being imported from Imbel Brazil.

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMBEL Project Colt - IMBEL acquired a manufacturing license for the Colt M1911 .45ca; pistol. The continuing export of pistols, through Springfield Inc. since 1985 into and for the United States. It produces models that include double-stack models in .380ACP, 9mm Parabellum and .45ACP.

Groundhog66
03-13-2009, 2:29 PM
A friend of mine found one (new) at a dealer for $599, seems like a decent price.

Scooterg55
03-13-2009, 3:14 PM
Some of the frames are made in Brazil. If over 50% of the gun was finished in Brazil it will be stamped as such. If the reverse and over 50% of the gun was finished in the USA it will not be stamped with Brazil.

Springfield has a lifetime warranty on their products no matter if you are the first owner or not and their customer service is outstanding. They even pay for shipping to and from.

Compare this to Dan Wesson who only has a five year warranty on their products.

H2H
03-13-2009, 3:33 PM
SA has great CS

SCMA-1
03-13-2009, 3:43 PM
I remember when the Springfield 1911 first was offered in the mid 80's for a whopping retail price of $250. Everyone was skeptical but then people started building them into excellent carry and competition guns. Imbel is synonymous with quality; Springfield's version of the FAL (SAR-48) is made by Imbel, Brazil and are known to be even more accurate than their Belgium counterparts. I have one and can attest to this.

SCMA-1

B Strong
03-13-2009, 5:27 PM
There is nothing wrong with Brazilian firearms, Brazilian manufacturing methods, or Brazilian steel.

Don't sweat it.

B Strong
03-13-2009, 5:30 PM
I remember when the Springfield 1911 first was offered in the mid 80's for a whopping retail price of $250. Everyone was skeptical but then people started building them into excellent carry and competition guns. Imbel is synonymous with quality; Springfield's version of the FAL (SAR-48) is made by Imbel, Brazil and are known to be even more accurate than their Belgium counterparts. I have one and can attest to this.

SCMA-1

You're correct - my first Springfield 1911A1 was $279.00 back in the 80's - excellent piece. The Imbel FAL's are top rate too.

Kruzr
03-13-2009, 6:40 PM
Springfield always imported their frames from Imbel since they began their 1911 line in the mid 80's. Remember, this isn't the old Government armory of the same name. It's a company that bought the rights to the name to make M1A's in the 70's. The 1911's started being completely assembled at Imbel in the early 90's. Now all models through the Loadeds are imported assembled.

Quiet
03-13-2009, 7:30 PM
There is nothing wrong with Brazilian firearms, Brazilian manufacturing methods, or Brazilian steel.

Don't sweat it.

Nothing wrong with Croatian firearms, Croatian manufacturing methods or Croatian steel & plastic either. (XD/XDm series is made in Croatia) ;)

Bongos
03-13-2009, 8:59 PM
Most of Modern SA as well as 80's SA are made inBrazil, reason why current model do not have the "made in Brazil" markings is because only the frame, slide, barrel , and bushing in done there, the rest is assemble with US made parts. It's cheaper for SA to have the slide and frame fitted as well as barrel and bushing in Brazil for obvious reasons. Same with the XDs but these I believe is 100% made in Croatia... the orig XD were HS2000s i think and were $200-$300

paintballergb
03-13-2009, 9:04 PM
A friend of mine found one (new) at a dealer for $599, seems like a decent price.

I would buy it.

.22guy
03-13-2009, 9:16 PM
I have one stamped from Brazil and I was kind of PO'd because the one they showed on the website was stamped with USA. (It was a gunbroker purchase so I didn't see it before I bought it) Guess I should have researched it better.

It's a great gun though, one of my favorites.