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Stormfeather
03-09-2009, 1:42 PM
So apparently theres some news regarding Big O and his plans on the next AWB. I just got this forwarded to me from Dragonfly in the email. Makes for a good read on whats in store for the future, Might be a good idea to start up the Paper Dragon and start sending those emails, fax'es and phone calls.

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Obama Lies To Gun Owners As Holder Reveals Gun Attack Plan

As a presidential candidate, Barack Obama deliberately and repeatedly lied to America's 90 million gun owners across the country when he insisted that he would not try to take away anyone's firearms, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms said today.

CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb, reacting to yesterday's remarks by Obama's Attorney General Eric Holder that the president will seek to reinstate the ban on semi-automatic firearms, said Obama "knew he was lying to the nation because his own website touted his plan to revive the gun ban and make it permanent."

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"We warned America that Obama's 'support' for the Second Amendment was empty rhetoric," he stated, "and now Holder's disclosure has confirmed it. Obama was lying, and now gun rights may be dying."

Several times on the campaign trail, Obama told voters "I'm not going to take your guns away." He said it at rallies in Duryea, Pennsylvania and in Boise, Idaho. He also told a news conference that "Lawful gun owners have nothing to fearÂ…I think people can take me at my word."

"Right now," said Gottlieb, "I wouldn't take Obama's word if he said it rains a lot in Seattle. Apparently, law-abiding gun owners have nothing to fear unless they own sport-utility rifles, semiautomatic shotguns, handguns and any other firearm that Obama and his anti-gun attorney general don't like.

"Thanks to Eric Holder, who has been far more honest than his boss about his anti-gun philosophy, it is now clear that the new president doesn't support the Second Amendment at all," he observed. "American gun owners should remind Democrats in Congress that the Second Amendment means what it says, especially when the president doesn't."

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In order to stop Obama and his fellow Democrat gun-grabbers—we need to let the Congress know with thousands of faxes telling them to leave guns alone.

Americans like you who understand what our Founding Fathers envisioned for our nation…and who are willing to fight to defend our Constitution and for what it stands.

So please, help the Citizens Committee and me defeat those who wish to gut and trash the United States Constitution.

Help me flood the U.S. Senate and the House with the sea of FAXES big enough to drown each and every Senator and Representative willing to vote away the Second Amendment.

Please, send your Donation and FAX TODAY!

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Keep calling your Senators today, toll free numbers include 1-877-851-6437 and 1-866-220-0044, or call toll 1-202-225-3121 AND REGISTER YOU'RE OUTRAGE at ongoing efforts to take guns away!

CALL PRESIDENT OBAMA, 202-456-1111 and 202-456-1414 expressing your disdain and ABSOLUTE REJECTION of all GUN BANS.

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ohsmily
03-09-2009, 1:47 PM
So, what is the news? I must have missed it. Is there some bill that has been authored and being voted on? If not, there really isn't any news. The Holder thing has been discussed at length and we know Obama is anti-gun. The question is, "Is it politically expedient to enact a new AW ban" and the answer at this time is "no."

Stormfeather
03-09-2009, 2:02 PM
I honestly dont think Obama is thinking in "politically expedient" terms. He knows he can get away with pretty much anything at this point, so why not push his true agenda? I mean, how much money did he send to help fix the gaza strip, or send to mexico to help fight the war on drugs there, knowing full well that money needs to stay here to help people in this country. All I know is its frustrating to me, knowing this money is going elsewhere when people here (including my wife) are trying to find a job and keep it. he should be spending this money here to try and fix the economy, not sending it elsewhere. Its a big problem Ive always had with politics, they worry too much about sending money elsewhere in the world when we have all the worlds problems right here in the good ole USA. I always say, lets fix the problems here first, then worry about the problems abroad after wards.

MotoGuy
03-09-2009, 2:36 PM
he insisted that he would not try to take away anyone's firearms

Well technically, reinstating the old AWB wouldn't take anyone's firearms... you just couldn't buy new ones.

SDgarrick
03-09-2009, 2:54 PM
^^^ Zing!

dixieD
03-09-2009, 5:41 PM
I honestly dont think Obama is thinking in "politically expedient" terms. He knows he can get away with pretty much anything at this point, so why not push his true agenda?

I agree only, I also think that Obama will expedite his true agenda because it is extremely unlikely that the economy will turn sufficiently for him to win reelection.

Fate
03-09-2009, 7:46 PM
...I also think that Obama will expedite his true agenda because it is extremely unlikely that the economy will turn sufficiently for him to win reelection.So the "Hope" candidate is a pessimist? :clown:

chrisdesoup
03-09-2009, 10:20 PM
AHHHHHH! BUY MORE LOWERS!!!!!

all this awb stuff it makin me nutz! we all know bho and holders track record on gun bans.... We have "rubber chicken" pelosi saying no (who woulda thought she would be on our side... for now).... we have a dow at lows we haven't seen in almost a generation.... socialism is at our door... sorry, socialism has it's foot in our door...

When I was a kid, before the wall fell... commie was an insult! GI's were our heros! We were proud to be americans.... Regan helped us stand tall again!

not to thread crap but, this is the United States of America and we will triumph over tyranny and oppression! We are the the greatest race on earth because we are many races under one flag. We have a "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.".

devildog999
03-09-2009, 10:38 PM
I really hope all the people on CalGuns that voted for Obama and trusted he would not touch our gun rights feel like giant douches now!! All of you should hang your heads in shame! For you truly have screwed the rest of us over!

ohsmily
03-09-2009, 10:41 PM
I really hope all the people on CalGuns that voted for Obama and trusted he would not touch our gun rights feel like giant douches now!! All of you should hang your heads in shame! For you truly have screwed the rest of us over!

I didn't vote for Obama and wouldn't even consider it. However, WTH are you going on about? What has he done at this point to hurt your gun rights? You and everyone else playing Chicken Little are jumping the gun here (pun intended). When there is a credible threat, that is the time to act. There isn't yet.

yellowfin
03-09-2009, 10:59 PM
^ At very least he's pricing some of us out of some of what we want and drying up the market of many things on my list.

devildog999
03-09-2009, 11:56 PM
I didn't vote for Obama and wouldn't even consider it. However, WTH are you going on about? What has he done at this point to hurt your gun rights? You and everyone else playing Chicken Little are jumping the gun here (pun intended). When there is a credible threat, that is the time to act. There isn't yet.

Keep following the herder sheep, baaaaa.

If you really believe that Obama is going to leave our guns alone, and that we shouldn't act until the cops show up to take them, then you deserve to lose your guns for your ignorance.

No brains no headaches!

.454
03-10-2009, 9:21 AM
I really hope all the people on CalGuns that voted for Obama and trusted he would not touch our gun rights feel like giant douches now!! All of you should hang your heads in shame! For you truly have screwed the rest of us over!

You are divisive. We need to work together, Republicans and Democrats blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah..
(repeat until everybody forgets for who I voted because "for me other issues are more important than preserving the 2nd Amendment rights and anyway, I've got all the guns I need")
[/sarcasm]

ohsmily
03-10-2009, 11:06 AM
Keep following the herder sheep, baaaaa.

If you really believe that Obama is going to leave our guns alone, and that we shouldn't act until the cops show up to take them, then you deserve to lose your guns for your ignorance.

No brains no headaches!

Yeah, you're the enlightened, independent thinking, intellectual :rolleyes:.

You can call me a sheep all you want. It was pretty cute that you actually wrote "baaaa." Do you really talk like that? Haha, what a joke. The fact is, I am realist, I am practical, and I actually READ about what is actually transpiring in politics. You are just wringing your hands and screaming like a little child. When a bill is authored that has a chance in hell of being pushed through for Obama's signature, then I will become very vocal and active to preempt it from passing (if anything can be done). What you are doing is just plain stupid (big surprise) sensationalist crap. But go ahead, beat your war drum, call the other side the devil incarnate, isolate yourself from other people and be divisive among other gun owners.

chris
03-10-2009, 11:58 AM
Thanks to gun owners of thei country another AWB will come to pass. thanks guys. thanks for nothing. we told you that he would do it. but you believed another politician and a Democrat at best that he won't ban guns. yeah right.

thats like telling a cop ant a donut shop not to by a donut.

Gator Monroe
03-10-2009, 12:04 PM
You are divisive. We need to work together, Republicans and Democrats blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah..
(repeat until everybody forgets for who I voted because "for me other issues are more important than preserving the 2nd Amendment rights and anyway, I've got all the guns I need")
[/sarcasm]

a rACIST hOMOPHOBE sPAMMER blah blah blah , Pink Pistols are good Blah blah blah , Neocons are not just recently turned conservative hawk former democrat jews blah blah blah ...

Hans Gruber
03-10-2009, 12:11 PM
Thanks to gun owners of thei country another AWB will come to pass. thanks guys. thanks for nothing. we told you that he would do it. but you believed another politician and a Democrat at best that he won't ban guns. yeah right.

thats like telling a cop ant a donut shop not to by a donut.

Sweet! You can tell the future? Tell me, what's next weeks lotto numbers? Where will the Dow be in 6 months? Who'll win the Super Bowl next year?

Oh wait, absolutely nothing's happened. I seriously think that some people here actually WANT a ban just so that they can be *right*.

Gator Monroe
03-10-2009, 12:17 PM
Sweet! You can tell the future? Tell me, what's next weeks lotto numbers? Where will the Dow be in 6 months? Who'll win the Super Bowl next year?

Oh wait, absolutely nothing's happened. I seriously think that some people here actually WANT a ban just so that they can be *right*.

The Future = End of summer !:sleeping:

Dalton
03-10-2009, 12:23 PM
AHHHHHH! BUY MORE LOWERS!!!!!

all this awb stuff it makin me nutz! we all know bho and holders track record on gun bans.... We have "rubber chicken" pelosi saying no (who woulda thought she would be on our side... for now).... we have a dow at lows we haven't seen in almost a generation.... socialism is at our door... sorry, socialism has it's foot in our door...

When I was a kid, before the wall fell... commie was an insult! GI's were our heros! We were proud to be americans.... Regan helped us stand tall again!

not to thread crap but, this is the United States of America and we will triumph over tyranny and oppression! We are the the greatest race on earth because we are many races under one flag. We have a "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.".


I AGREE 110%!

devildog999
03-10-2009, 8:43 PM
Yeah, you're the enlightened, independent thinking, intellectual :rolleyes:.

You can call me a sheep all you want. It was pretty cute that you actually wrote "baaaa." Do you really talk like that? Haha, what a joke. The fact is, I am realist, I am practical, and I actually READ about what is actually transpiring in politics. You are just wringing your hands and screaming like a little child. When a bill is authored that has a chance in hell of being pushed through for Obama's signature, then I will become very vocal and active to preempt it from passing (if anything can be done). What you are doing is just plain stupid (big surprise) sensationalist crap. But go ahead, beat your war drum, call the other side the devil incarnate, isolate yourself from other people and be divisive among other gun owners.

I thought it was cute too ;)

Why would you wait for a bill that has a chance of being signed. That is how they sneak things through. That is when it is about too late. I am not calling the other side the devil, I am saying that Obama is a liar and needs to leave our gun rights alone. I don't even like the idea of him talking about them. If you truly believe that he is not gonna try to re introduce the AWB, you are sadly mistaken and will regret it when that time arrives. This is how they take away the things that are important to us, because too many people want to wait til it's too late to say anything.

devildog999
03-10-2009, 8:45 PM
"for me other issues are more important than preserving the 2nd Amendment rights and anyway, I've got all the guns I need")
[/sarcasm]


We lose our 2A rights, the others are not soon after. Is it that hard to understand. Just the loss of one right is too much for me, and right now the one at risk is 2A.

Sunwolf
03-10-2009, 8:52 PM
We lose our 2A rights, the others are not soon after. Is it that hard to understand. Just the loss of one right is too much for me, and right now the one at risk is 2A.
FYI:454 was quoting one of the Obama apologists on CG.

Swiss
03-10-2009, 10:11 PM
Devildog999 and others: I voted for Obama and his stance on AWB is no surprise. Are you telling me that your fellow citizen can't have a mind of his own, speak it, and vote it? Exactly what the hell kind of American are you anyway? You'll either respect my opinion - and I yours - or this country's going to hell in handbasket.

SDgarrick
03-12-2009, 7:21 PM
Given that Obama has other plans than just gun control, many of which affect peoples lives, is it any surprise than many people voted for him? I ask you objectively.

AngelDecoys
03-12-2009, 8:00 PM
There's nothing new in the OP's post we haven't seen a bunch of times already. I imagine every group will try and capitalize on the current administration asking for donations.....

No brains no headaches!

And if all the AW posts, emails, etc continue for another year, most gun owners will respond with indifference. Much the same way the colonials would react if Paul Revere were to ride by every night.

I don't blame you (and others) for being a bit anxious, but how about we actually wait (for a lamp or two in the window) before screaming 'the red coats are coming.' Just a thought.

luchador768
03-12-2009, 10:32 PM
I think what Hoffmang and Ohsmiley have been saying is to be alert and be ready to react to ANY anti-2a BILL. Something that is actually being drawn up in commitee. If we flood our reps with e-mails all the time, when there is no physical bill, we become backround noise, not activists. My first reaction is to storm capitol hill and fight for my 2a rights when I hear a negative news report, or read a B.S. op-ed piece. The people on the frontlines are saying to react when the time is right.