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petergriffin
03-08-2009, 3:05 PM
I've been in the Manteca Bass Pro Shop a bunch of times since it opened. Nice reloading section and surprises on ammo prices. But today I decided to fill a hole in my gun accumulation and thought I'd give the newest FFL in town a try.

First strike: no LE discount on firearms. That's sort of lame.

Strike 2: Lots of extra paperwork and time verifying and checking. I had to to the 4473 plus the "4473 Cover Form" the "Proof of Residency" form and a list of gun handling rules and promises. Lame.

Strike 3: after you fill out all the paperwork, and the associate approves it, he takes it to his supervisor to approve it. Ok, another 10-15 mins, not catastrophic, (I'll go look at the ammo again) but again, lame, and this is taking way too long.

And strike 4: the 11 day waiting period. Really lame. Bass Pro Shops has an 11 day waiting period as a "convenience" for the customer. That is exactly what he said: "convenience" for the customer. You see, if I bought a gun at 10:14am on 3/8, if I returned at 5:15pm on 3/18, there is a gray area regarding whether 10 x 24 hours periods have elapsed. A gray area? Whatever. It was a weekday pickup anyway, no big loss.

megavolt121
03-08-2009, 3:23 PM
I've been in the Manteca Bass Pro Shop a bunch of times since it opened. Nice reloading section and surprises on ammo prices. But today I decided to fill a hole in my gun accumulation and thought I'd give the newest FFL in town a try.

I just checked this store out last night. I felt like Ace Ventura walking into the Animal room, except without the freakout.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOVmH5H60Vs


First strike: no LE discount on firearms. That's sort of lame.

Strike 2: Lots of extra paperwork and time verifying and checking. I had to to the 4473 plus the "4473 Cover Form" the "Proof of Residency" form and a list of gun handling rules and promises. Lame.

Agreed.


Strike 3: after you fill out all the paperwork, and the associate approves it, he takes it to his supervisor to approve it. Ok, another 10-15 mins, not catastrophic, (I'll go look at the ammo again) but again, lame, and this is taking way too long.

This is understandable... The minimum wage counter associate could care less if he screws up a DROS, the store itself suffers the consequences. Why not have this extra CYA step? I've seen this happen at many stores where someone that doesn't hold the FFL is allowed to process paperwork. Would YOU trust a minimum wage employee not to make a mistake that could cost you YOUR FFL?


And strike 4: the 11 day waiting period. Really lame. Bass Pro Shops has an 11 day waiting period as a "convenience" for the customer. That is exactly what he said: "convenience" for the customer. You see, if I bought a gun at 10:14am on 3/8, if I returned at 5:15pm on 3/18, there is a gray area regarding whether 10 x 24 hours periods have elapsed. A gray area? Whatever. It was a weekday pickup anyway, no big loss.

See above comment... I will agree this is annoying, esp if it makes a weekend pick up a weekday pickup, but then again, you don't need to have some guy who purchased at 5:15PM come in at 5:00PM and try to convince the counterjockey 240 hours have passed.

Blue
03-08-2009, 3:34 PM
The only thing I agree with is your gripe about the 11 days. No LE discount? Were you buying a duty firearm? If not, boohoo. Lots of paperwork? Welcome to buying a gun in this day and age. Boohoo. A company double checking stuff so they can stay in business with as little ATF/DOJ hassle as possible? Boohoo.

depmac983ret
03-08-2009, 4:48 PM
+1 Blue!

DB2
03-08-2009, 5:03 PM
The only thing I agree with is your gripe about the 11 days. No LE discount? Were you buying a duty firearm? If not, boohoo. Lots of paperwork? Welcome to buying a gun in this day and age. Boohoo. A company double checking stuff so they can stay in business with as little ATF/DOJ hassle as possible? Boohoo.



Blue, you read my mind.

Kid Stanislaus
03-08-2009, 5:25 PM
First strike: no LE discount on firearms. That's sort of lame..


Aw gee, yer break'n my heart here!!:D

Fobjoe
03-08-2009, 5:33 PM
I was there twice and it DID take an HOUR for a PPT and 45 min for my pickup. they are way understaffed

petergriffin
03-08-2009, 6:09 PM
I've bought from 3 (now 4) gunshops in the CV and they took maybe 10 mins once I said "I'll take it." I filled out the yellow, they made a copy of my DL. Done. Easy. 180 degrees from BPS.

This was such a different experience from what I'm used to, I thought others might be interested.

Saigon1965
03-08-2009, 6:12 PM
What do they charge for DROS?

Maddog5150
03-08-2009, 6:50 PM
+1 blue. Why is that a strike against them? Isnt there something in ethics there to hold it against a company for not giving LE discounts?

biglou
03-08-2009, 8:39 PM
Because the OP mentions that he is LE some CGers start to pile on him. If he left that part out you would be siding with him. Is asking for a LE discount bad ethics ? A lot of gun shops find out your LE and they give you a discount because they want you to tell all your co-workers how great and LE friendly they are. Does this help the gun community ?

Eroland7
03-08-2009, 8:41 PM
I think it does...

battleship
03-08-2009, 9:00 PM
Great store, but i would never buy a gun from them after observing the time it was taking to do some one else's paper work, even getting the chance to hold a gun at the counter is like wining the lottery.

Southpaw45
03-08-2009, 9:55 PM
I like it when they do the paper work for somebody who buys a gun there, they do it right in front of the most popular part of the counter. The auto pistols. You then end up blocking the counter and then everybody is looking over your shoulder when your putting all your personal info down. As for looking at the ammo, what ammo. :shrug: The shelves are stripped bare except for some rifle stuff... That place needs to restock in a bad way...

dfletcher
03-08-2009, 10:07 PM
Because the OP mentions that he is LE some CGers start to pile on him. If he left that part out you would be siding with him. Is asking for a LE discount bad ethics ? A lot of gun shops find out your LE and they give you a discount because they want you to tell all your co-workers how great and LE friendly they are. Does this help the gun community ?

I'd say he pretty much has to tell us he's LE if he's mentioning being disappointed that he's not getting an LE discount. Unless it's a principle thing - as in, "I'm not LE but it upsets me they don't offer an LE discount for our LE folks".

Maybe they should, maybe they should not - personally, if it were a work related buy & I owned a gun store I'd be inclined to say yes, seems like good business. From what I read of the posts, people are reacting to the expectation of getting a discount and scoring points against the store because they do not.

There's noting wrong with asking and I think a "It's too bad they don't do an LE discount" would have been received differently.

CABilly
03-08-2009, 10:08 PM
The only thing I agree with is your gripe about the 11 days. No LE discount? Were you buying a duty firearm? If not, boohoo. Lots of paperwork? Welcome to buying a gun in this day and age. Boohoo. A company double checking stuff so they can stay in business with as little ATF/DOJ hassle as possible? Boohoo.

+1


I bet if you got a bunch of brand new hi-cap mags, made a big pile of them on the floor in your living room and spent 10 minutes jumping around in them - tossing them up in the air, swimming, the works - you'd feel better.

leitung
03-08-2009, 10:26 PM
I hate the 11 day thing, I dont understand it, what part of 10 24hour periods dont they understand...
Extra paperwork sucks too.. The rest of it is no biggie..

NoSmoke
03-08-2009, 11:09 PM
11 days in a 10-day State! I don't think so. Besides, their prices SUCK!

LEO's have other places that offer decent discounts. BPS & Turner's play in the same league and, "They Suck at it".

Xerxes
03-09-2009, 11:12 AM
Is this a good shop to go to look and maybe buy?

Would you drive an hour to get there?

I went to one in Houston last year and it was a hoot as I wanted to max out my credit card right there but knew it would be a hassle getting that stuff on the plane for the ride back.

Is this shop like the ones out of state with all kinds of neat stuff?

Have they bought into the "OL" thing and offering EBR stuff at this shop?

They sure did at their Houston store. Was not a lot in terms of the size of the store, but it was more than I ever see at any CA gun store.

basskisser2002
03-09-2009, 11:18 AM
I visited Bass Pro one day when I was in the market for my M&P40. After walking up to the counter which was virtually empty, I asked the associate to see a gun. He informed me that he would not show me a gun unless I took a number. I pointed out that I was the only one looking (or asking to look) at handguns and he was just standing there. He repeated the take a number and I informed him that I instead would take my $600 down to Stockton Gun and spend it where they are friendly. BYE. I walked away. I've heard this story several times. Rather than be unhappy, just go where you are treated like a valued customer. My 2 cents.

DB2
03-09-2009, 11:54 AM
I visited Bass Pro one day when I was in the market for my M&P40. After walking up to the counter which was virtually empty, I asked the associate to see a gun. He informed me that he would not show me a gun unless I took a number. I pointed out that I was the only one looking (or asking to look) at handguns and he was just standing there. He repeated the take a number and I informed him that I instead would take my $600 down to Stockton Gun and spend it where they are friendly. BYE. I walked away. I've heard this story several times. Rather than be unhappy, just go where you are treated like a valued customer. My 2 cents.

Did you happen to think that maybe they use the # system to keep track of how many times the guns are taken out of the case? That's kind of ridiculous (sp?) on your part not to just grab the # and hand it to them. Now if the guy was being snippy about it that's one thing. But if he was polite and you were being difficult, then..........................

It's really not that hard to step 5 paces to the left and grab the #.

halifax
03-09-2009, 11:55 AM
Because the OP mentions that he is LE some CGers start to pile on him. If he left that part out you would be siding with him. Is asking for a LE discount bad ethics ? A lot of gun shops find out your LE and they give you a discount because they want you to tell all your co-workers how great and LE friendly they are. Does this help the gun community ?

+1 Couldn't agree more.

xibunkrlilkidsx
03-09-2009, 12:52 PM
I know a local store does the same thing. his excuse was that it is just easier on their part to cover their *** to keep a firearm from leaving to early..

stupid excuse but what ever.

Who cares if he asked for a LEO discount. no shame in that we give discounts to LEO and military in the lcoksmith shop i work at.

mark2203
03-09-2009, 1:02 PM
I picked up a pistol at the Manteca store. They screwed up on the paperwork so I had to go back in the evening to correct it but what was really funny was that, while I was there waiting (again), a LEO had also been waiting for at least an hour to get an escort out of the store with the new pistol he was picking-up...and I think he said he was carrying too.

Xerxes
03-14-2009, 9:10 AM
Did you happen to think that maybe they use the # system to keep track of how many times the guns are taken out of the case? That's kind of ridiculous (sp?) on your part not to just grab the # and hand it to them. Now if the guy was being snippy about it that's one thing. But if he was polite and you were being difficult, then..........................

It's really not that hard to step 5 paces to the left and grab the #.

The customer has the money that supports the store and pays for the salary.

He should not have to compromise to feed some stupid bean counters attempt at making his job easier so he can goof off and smoke and play on internet all day (even if it is Calguns and he is a 20,000 poster), and watch TV.

The stupid dumb *** employee should have pulled the number for the customer if that is important to the employees bean counter boss.

Serve the customer as they are the one with the money. I hate shops that feel I am there to serve them instead of the other way around. I would rather do without firearms ownership than to deal with moron employees at gun stores.

Make some stupid rules up that I must follow while the employee goofs off and plays on internet all day then see me walk out with my money and I will spend it else where.

Stay smug in the fact you followed your stupid rules as you have your going out of business sell due to lack of customers.

Trendkill
03-14-2009, 9:42 AM
I feel like vomiting every time I here about LE buying off-list handguns , aquiring assault weapons....etc etc , and all at a discount price.

I have nothing against LEO's in general......but I do have something against un-equal protection and rights.

AngelDecoys
03-14-2009, 9:59 AM
Next time, you might try a home based FFL not 4 blocks from the Bass Pro. If you aren't an impulse buyer, and got the time to wait for him to order it, you'll have a better experience. BTW - I generally have done transfers through him, so can't speak to his general prices.

Tunn Tavern Arms - Fine Firearms & Instruction
Leeland Williams - Owner/Proprietor
(209)-824-9547

Lee transfers by appointment. He's also a member, and regular volunteer for the monthly kids shoot at the Manteca Sportsmen. A nice guy all around.

Fees $25 for transfer + $25 for dros.

samsigsauer
03-30-2010, 12:05 PM
I have never purchased anything for Manteca Bass Proshop...There are many local firearm dealers which cater to LEO for purchase handguns.

It is not LE fault for way the law is written for the purchase of off-list handguns...The is list process is flawed at best...With the amount of recalls that we have seen i.e. S&W Walther PPK/s, Ruger LCP & SR9, Sig P238. How thoroughly are these gun tested? That is Govt for you! I am sure health care will be better!!!! LOL!!!!!!!! End of Rant!


At least there is back way for people to purchase off list handguns...

Napalm Bulldog
03-30-2010, 12:14 PM
IBTL

pigman
03-30-2010, 12:31 PM
Just like picking up a gun at Walmart used to be, it's not a gun store, so they don't care how many they sell. BUT if you open an account with them a Bass Pro card you get 10% off your first purchase, that kinda helps.

Nor-Cal
03-30-2010, 7:44 PM
I really do not mind any extra paper work saves them hassel frm DoJ or other agencies intrested in harassment plus they do have good deals on firearms time to time I've done firearms business with manteca BPS on 3 diffrent ocations all have been good experiences, just my 2cents

BroncoBob
03-30-2010, 8:22 PM
Just come to Tracy Rifle and Pistol

mariodesmo
03-30-2010, 9:48 PM
I just bought a new S&W revolver today, a model 29, 4 inch blue 44 mag, at a local shop. I was surprised at first at all the paperwork, but they were very efficient, accurate, and made sure the process went without a hitch.

The cute girl behind the counter that helped me was proficient, and did I mention cute? It took me about 30 minuted from start to finish, from the time I said, "I'll buy it".

First they had me read and initial an internal store form, that looked a lot like the fed 4473; it also asked how I would pay for the gun, that they have an 11 day waiting period, asked for a vehicle registration with the same address as my drivers license, and how I would pay for it, and similar "are you a criminal" questions like on the 4473. :-))

Then they checked all my docs, copied CA drivers license and registration, filled in the real 4473, and did the DROS. Made more copies. Once that went through they billed my credit card. Then copied everything again, and asked me to initial everything. Then I gave a thumb print on the DROS form, did a safety demo, and I was done!

I don't like anyone making up their own laws, but it is their shop so I put up with the 11 day waiting period because it was a great price, the gun is a fine specimen. And they were efficient and got me out of there in about 1/2 hour start to finish. They had two supervisors help checking things, helping with the overall process. They were well coordinated and efficient as I mentioned.

Would I buy there again? If something I want is there, and at a great price, yea, I would.