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ke6guj
03-06-2009, 12:06 PM
A new show on TV called "Testing the Limits" had a segment on drop tests by one of the companies certified to do the Roster drop tests.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu212/ke6guj/th_TestingtheLimits-DropTest.jpg (http://s649.photobucket.com/albums/uu212/ke6guj/?action=view&current=TestingtheLimits-DropTest.flv)

5150Marcelo
03-06-2009, 12:11 PM
still dumb that CA wont let it in tho.

Japsican
03-06-2009, 12:18 PM
Maybe I should get my work to start doing safety testing for firearms manufacturers:D. Testing all the ITE stuff is getting boring.

P.S. I hate dealing with Intertek.;)

hawk1
03-06-2009, 12:43 PM
Thanks for the video

bohoki
03-06-2009, 1:51 PM
geez if the muzzle first test is the one that gets them why dont they just do that test first and save all those other tests for it if passes the hardest one

hoffmang
03-06-2009, 2:39 PM
Isn't it user error to drop a cocked, safety off pistol in the first place?

-Gene

RobG
03-06-2009, 2:57 PM
Isn't it user error to drop a cocked, safety off pistol in the first place?

-Gene

Uh, no. Maybe back in the days of personal responsibilty but, not now;)

Sarkoon
03-06-2009, 2:58 PM
Who's the manufacturer of the pistol in the video? I thought that almost all pistols these days had internal firing pin blocking mechanisms to prevent this sort of thing.

bohoki
03-06-2009, 3:47 PM
Isn't it user error to drop a cocked, safety off pistol in the first place?

-Gene

it doesnt matter with a freeflaoting firing pin the hammer doesnt have to fall

as he said inertia will drive the pin into the primer its just a basic design flaw

but back when they designed it there was alot less pavement in the world

pinwheels
03-06-2009, 4:24 PM
It's actually a real problem that can be complicated by user "error":rolleyes:. A friend of mine kept a 1911 on top of his refrigerator. Accidentally knocked it off and shot himself in the a**. Fortunately not too serious, but more than a bit embarrassing and painful. Sorry, but before you ask for details, this was several years back before I had any idea what conditions 1, 2, and 3 were, so didn't ask for any details. I suspect he had a round chambered and the hammer down.:iamwithstupid:

andrewj
03-06-2009, 5:30 PM
Lets just abolish the Roster and keep our guns on lanyards from now on. Is that a fair compromise? :rolleyes:

JTROKS
03-06-2009, 7:26 PM
I think going through the whole test even when it fails one part of it already is good to give the manufacturer data on what modification they must do to make it pass the test. It will be just stupid if I was to submit a handgun and money to find out I did not pass the "Muzzle first drop" then on a resubmit to find out I fail the "Hammer first drop". But don't give DOJ that idea, because they may use it to extort more money from gun manufacturers. It's just extortion.

tankerman
03-06-2009, 7:39 PM
P.S. I hate dealing with Intertek.;)DO you work with them?

Centurion_D
03-06-2009, 7:48 PM
Hmmm..does that mean a 1911 in condition one can go off if dropped muzzle first? That's scary.

Japsican
03-06-2009, 7:50 PM
DO you work with them?
Uh, yes, i do.

Gio
03-06-2009, 7:51 PM
Cool vid, thx :D

-Gio

One Shot, One Dropped
03-06-2009, 7:53 PM
Hey! Who makes that gun? I think I was to try to score one of those via PPT just to stick it to the man! :rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
:jump:

:Ivan:

nick
03-06-2009, 8:17 PM
Hey! Who makes that gun? I think I was to try to score one of those via PPT just to stick it to the man! :rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
:jump:

:Ivan:

You should change your alias to "one dropped, one shot" then :p

One Shot, One Dropped
03-06-2009, 8:21 PM
You should change your alias to "one dropped, one shot" then :p

Once I get the gun...

bohoki
03-06-2009, 8:30 PM
Hmmm..does that mean a 1911 in condition one can go off if dropped muzzle first? That's scary.

but at least with muzzle down the bullet is generally going to hit a safe object unless its your downstairs neighbor

Guns R Tools
03-06-2009, 8:38 PM
I thought many manufacturers went with titanium firing pin to minimize this type of discharge.

ar15barrels
03-06-2009, 10:44 PM
The 1911 they were dropping is obviously a mil-spec type pre-series 80 without a firing pin safety.
The 80 series guns would all pass the muzzle-down test.

M. Sage
03-06-2009, 10:57 PM
it doesnt matter with a freeflaoting firing pin the hammer doesnt have to fall

as he said inertia will drive the pin into the primer its just a basic design flaw

but back when they designed it there was alot less pavement in the world

There's not much chance of someone being injured by a gun going off muzzle-down on a concrete surface. Not seriously injured, anyway...

ar15barrels
03-06-2009, 11:01 PM
There's not much chance of someone being injured by a gun going off muzzle-down on a concrete surface. Not seriously injured, anyway...

I had my glock fall out of my race holster (holster was unlocked) and it landed muzzle down and discharged (drop safety was disabled).
The round went straight into the concrete and left a nice little dimple.

I figured out how to keep the good trigger AND have the drop safety function after that. :thumbsup:

spddrcr
03-06-2009, 11:50 PM
I had my glock fall out of my race holster (holster was unlocked) and it landed muzzle down and discharged (drop safety was disabled).
The round went straight into the concrete and left a nice little dimple.

I figured out how to keep the good trigger AND have the drop safety function after that. :thumbsup:

were you disqualified?:D

ar15barrels
03-07-2009, 12:26 AM
were you disqualified?:D

No.
It was a club match.
I was the RSO.

pinwheels
03-07-2009, 12:29 AM
You should change your alias to "one dropped, one shot" then :p

:rofl2: But yeah, as I said, no joke. My friend shot himself in the a** with a 1911 knocking it off of his refrigerator. Not saying he didn't screw up but . . . . Yeah, I guess I am :D

AndrewMendez
03-07-2009, 5:38 AM
Nobody mentioned what douche bags these guys where, standing there watching it discharge... as if a bullet where to fly towards them, they would have the time to think "oh s**t, i need to get out of the way!"

railroader
03-07-2009, 5:49 AM
Nobody mentioned what douche bags these guys where, standing there watching it discharge... as if a bullet where to fly towards them, they would have the time to think "oh s**t, i need to get out of the way!"

They were using blanks. Mark

AndrewMendez
03-07-2009, 5:54 AM
They were using blanks. Mark

and goggles!

Paul
03-07-2009, 6:02 AM
$250 million dollars a year spent here on guns.

indetrucks
03-07-2009, 6:39 AM
geez if the muzzle first test is the one that gets them why dont they just do that test first and save all those other tests for it if passes the hardest one

So they could make a TV show segment long enough to watch :)

Jeez those two guys were dorks

ar15barrels
03-07-2009, 7:30 AM
$250 million dollars a year spent here on guns.

That little tidbit was not missed on me. ;)

tankerman
03-07-2009, 7:36 AM
Uh, yes, i do.I deal with Caleb Brett which is an arm of Intertek.