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tommyid1
03-05-2009, 2:23 PM
Hey all
I'm lookin for options for my first 45acp pistol. I'm torn between xd five tactical. Or a 1911 style pistol. I don't like glocks much but I like xds and 1911s. I've also looked at m and ps but still don't know what I want. What are my other options? Why do you all like.

Tom

Black Majik
03-05-2009, 2:25 PM
Two very different pistols. The only thing similiar is that they have a grip, trigger, barrel, slide, single action and chambered in .45.

Best try them both out. Best answer I can offer otherwise I'd get accused of being a raging 1911 fanboy. ;)

Price limit? 1911s go up to 5K and beyond if you don't cap your budget. :D

Japsican
03-05-2009, 2:27 PM
1911 > Xd

JMHO

GenLee
03-05-2009, 2:31 PM
H&K USP USP USP, Did I mention to look at the USP. Rent one at your local indoor range, Shoot it, and you will never look back.

savs2k
03-05-2009, 2:40 PM
1911

Japsican
03-05-2009, 2:48 PM
H&K USP USP USP, Did I mention to look at the USP. Rent one at your local indoor range, Shoot it, and you will never look back.

I use to be in love with the looks of USP's and I was sure I was going to buy one, but after shooting one, I changed my mind. Sure they are great guns, but I just did not like the feel of them at all. The frame felt too thin and too long front to back or something...just didnt do it for me.

tommyid1
03-05-2009, 3:19 PM
Price limit is round 700 +-50

zman
03-05-2009, 3:21 PM
I love XDs but I believe that every one should have a 1911 in .45ACP :)

grammaton76
03-05-2009, 3:35 PM
I really strongly recommend the CZ-97B. It's an awesome 45, first one I ever bought and still my fav.

I will say that I tested out probably 10-15 different 45's at Iron Sights before I ultimately settled on the '97, and I'm glad I did. Don't make your choice on anything other than your experiences when shooting a gun. I thought until my experiences with the '97, that I was going to be a Sig or Ruger guy because the grip geometry worked best for me in Airsoft back in Japan. Nope... for real guns it's the CZ all the way.

ETA: I am also a big fan of the Sig 229, though, but that's not a 45.

tommyid1
03-05-2009, 3:36 PM
what are some of the cheaper 1911's. i know i wont find a super nice one for that price but I want something thats reliable that i can blast with and have as a home defense weapon.

duck814
03-05-2009, 3:40 PM
Before you buy a new caliber weapon it would probably be wise to get ammo first. The way things are looking, whats the use of having a handgun with no ammo :(

tommyid1
03-05-2009, 3:42 PM
im well equipped to load my own ammo. I will have bullets and brass on the way.

tommyid1
03-05-2009, 3:51 PM
also if i go to a 1911 id like to have a 10+1 configuration available.

kermit
03-05-2009, 3:58 PM
For 10+1, you may want to look at the ParOrdnance pistols. I have an older P-12 that shoots well and I think the wide-grip takes a bit of the kick out of the smaller Officer-size frame.

I also like the Sig 220 for simplicity of operation and reliability, but even a used one may be more than $700.

tommyid1
03-05-2009, 4:23 PM
hmm on second thought a single stack 8+1 would be fine. i was jsut thinking i held one of the wide frames and didnt really liek the feel. im more of a thin frame guy.

Black Majik
03-05-2009, 4:36 PM
hmm on second thought a single stack 8+1 would be fine. i was jsut thinking i held one of the wide frames and didnt really liek the feel. im more of a thin frame guy.

How about a P220? If you're patient, you can find a used P220 for $600 or so, the ST will cut down on recoil by weight, but it'll cost more as well.

Aside from a 1911, that's the best single stack .45 available in my honest opinion.

walter
03-05-2009, 4:45 PM
RIA basic 1911 45 for about 450

hkfooey
03-05-2009, 4:53 PM
You should be able to get a SA Mil-spec for $600... 1911 is always good (IMHO). :)

thomasanelson
03-05-2009, 5:22 PM
Every man should have at least one 1911 in his collection. That being said there are some great 45s mentioned above and a few others to consider. Before you buy think about this: A good 1911 will last several lifetimes, so go with quality. Your grandkids will appreciated it.....provided they still have gun rights.

comandante costello
03-05-2009, 7:13 PM
what are some of the cheaper 1911's. i know i wont find a super nice one for that price but I want something thats reliable that i can blast with and have as a home defense weapon.

If you want a great .45 that will also work well as a home defense weapon try a Sig P220. No safety to fumble with or forget to disengage when something goes bump late at night.

infernalaanger
03-05-2009, 7:36 PM
My next purchase will def. be a 1911. I want .45 ACP and I definitely have the itch...just gotta wait 30 days before I can buy another.

Sam
03-05-2009, 7:52 PM
Best answer I can offer otherwise I'd get accused of being a raging 1911 fanboy. ;)


done deal, next question!

tommyid1
03-05-2009, 7:59 PM
btw i was calling around to see who had any xd45's in 5" and canyon sports had one with regular sights.... they also wanted 685 as the base price lol what a freaking joke.

tommyid1
03-05-2009, 8:10 PM
i think i might just go ahead and get a 1911. What are the rest of the options in that price range.

USNHM242
03-05-2009, 8:11 PM
USP is good for me:D

Quiet
03-05-2009, 8:51 PM
Price limit is round 700 +-50

RIA 1911 Tactical + ammo. :thumbsup:

Sam
03-05-2009, 8:55 PM
stretch your budget just a tad and I'd suggest a Colt:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_141/products_id/36291

I've been very happy with mine.

gdr_11
03-05-2009, 9:00 PM
1911s are the way to go; shooters all over the world for the past 100 years can't all be wrong.

For the price I suggest RIA Tactical or a step up to SAA Fully Loaded. Don't buy the base gun in any model unless you are planning on some upgrade mods (sights, grip safety, trigger, hammer, etc.)

It took me a couple of months looking, but I bought a new SAA Fully Loaded Stainless for $645 at a local shop.

Patience is a virtue when gun shopping, but be prepared to buy immediately when you find what you want at the right price.

Japsican
03-05-2009, 9:04 PM
also if i go to a 1911 id like to have a 10+1 configuration available.

You can get 10rnd single stack mags for
1911's. You may be able to find a springfield GI or milspec around your price range.

happy_gunner
03-05-2009, 9:10 PM
give City Arms in pacifica a try, make a day trip and go there, if you call you might not find your answer.

Mickey D
03-05-2009, 9:10 PM
My choices would be a 1911, preferably Colt...

Electroless Nickel Series 70
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/ColtNic1911LH.jpg

....or an HK USP, such as this USP Compact...

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/HKUPS45.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/HKusp2.jpg

Or even a S&W 645

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/SWm645.jpg

JDay
03-06-2009, 12:12 AM
Go with a 1911, you're just going to wish you bought one later otherwise.

buffalkill
03-06-2009, 12:12 AM
I had a 1911 Springfield mil spec, then got an xd 45 tactical. The XD is a great gun but there's something about the 1911 that makes it special. Don't have the XD anymore but I still have the 1911.


http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv52/jeffjulieallen/1911right.jpg

buffalkill
03-06-2009, 12:13 AM
Those are ten round mags.

tommyid1
03-06-2009, 12:23 AM
I'm going tp start looking for a sai loaded or maybe a ria. Does that south city gun store have a website with directions?
Thanks
Tom

cineski
03-06-2009, 10:10 AM
To the OP, what is your intended use for this .45? Every time I see someone ask "Which 45?", two thoughts come to mind. The 45 platform has a very wide range of controls, SAO, DAO, DA/SA, and people who may or may not know better can end up getting into a system that goes against what their instincts and muscle memory is honed into for a high stress situation. The other thought I get is: "Now this poor guy is going to get a barrage of 1911 advice." 1911's are cool as hell, and I do believe that everyone should have one......IF they have at least another .45 or they intend to use the 1911 as a target gun only, or if they intend to use the 1911 as a defensive gun, they dedicate themselves to the platform of the 1911. Cross platforming your defense weapons is a horrible idea. True 1911 users (as in defensive 1911 users) flip the safety off whenever they bring the gun up. They ride thumbs high, and the do this with every gun they shoot wether the gun has a thumb safety or not. It's engrained in their muscle memory through practice and more practice. So, if you intend to use this for HD, and depending on what you already shoot I'd look at something else (In my pretty extensive experience with the .45 cartridge, my main focus has ended up on HK45 and an XD45c with a few mods).

Sam
03-06-2009, 11:46 AM
To the OP, what is your intended use for this .45? Every time I see someone ask "Which 45?", two thoughts come to mind. The 45 platform has a very wide range of controls, SAO, DAO, DA/SA, and people who may or may not know better can end up getting into a system that goes against what their instincts and muscle memory is honed into for a high stress situation. The other thought I get is: "Now this poor guy is going to get a barrage of 1911 advice." 1911's are cool as hell, and I do believe that everyone should have one......IF they have at least another .45 or they intend to use the 1911 as a target gun only, or if they intend to use the 1911 as a defensive gun, they dedicate themselves to the platform of the 1911. Cross platforming your defense weapons is a horrible idea. True 1911 users (as in defensive 1911 users) flip the safety off whenever they bring the gun up. They ride thumbs high, and the do this with every gun they shoot wether the gun has a thumb safety or not. It's engrained in their muscle memory through practice and more practice. So, if you intend to use this for HD, and depending on what you already shoot I'd look at something else (In my pretty extensive experience with the .45 cartridge, my main focus has ended up on HK45 and an XD45c with a few mods).

sound advice. The high thumb hold has made shooting many other guns very uncomfortable, especially Glocks. But why would I want to shoot others when I have a 1911?:thumbsup:

tommyid1
03-06-2009, 3:19 PM
I shoot thumbs high alteady. I want it for target practice as well as home defense. Those are my main focuses for this handgun. I also read an article about 3 gun and that looks pretty fun. I think one day I might like to try that. But would probably end up with a different pistol for that.

1911ZENSHOOTER
03-06-2009, 9:35 PM
1911 ergonomics, functionality and sexuality are unparalleled..
Got a Kimber classic 10 years ago with a +50k round count and it keeps on kicking.. I would not bet you get a similar service life with as much joy in a XD

cactustactical
03-06-2009, 10:39 PM
1911 all the way and you don't need to break the bank to get a good one :D

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee117/TBG35/PT1911/1247.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee117/TBG35/PT1911/GP2.jpg

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spddrcr
03-06-2009, 11:13 PM
Ive been shooting a usp 40 compact for about 3 or 4 years now and was always interested in a 1911. after shooting one a couple weeks ago i had a new mission in life. I searched everywhere for one that i liked in my price range. I almost bought a RIA tactical after comparing it side by side with a gi springfield, the ria is a great gun for the price. finally a friend informed me that he was going to sell his kimber tactical pro 2 and i jumped at the chance to buy it. I knew after the first couple of rounds i shot that i was hooked and the gun is currently on day three of ten at the shop:thumbsup:

while i love the usp i would highly recomend not getting a compact in 45. while the recoil is snappy it's just to much for *me* the fullsize are more fun for me and im actually thinking of selling my usp 40 compact to fund a second 1911:thumbsup:

GrizzAwoken
03-09-2009, 4:08 PM
Has anyone had the chance to try out a FNP .45? How do they compare to the current mainstays (1911, XDs, P220, USP, etc).

It looks like an excellent pistol but I'm weary of recoil with it's extremely light weight.

-Grizz

TOMBSTONE
03-09-2009, 6:26 PM
Sig has a 1911 , thats around $700 + and has quite a few upgrades...

626Tony
03-09-2009, 6:30 PM
for the dollar a compact XD 4" .45 a 1911 is a lil too much gun personally i like the HK usp .45 compact a bit pricey but worth every penny

B Strong
03-09-2009, 6:53 PM
Hey all
I'm lookin for options for my first 45acp pistol. I'm torn between xd five tactical. Or a 1911 style pistol. I don't like glocks much but I like xds and 1911s. I've also looked at m and ps but still don't know what I want. What are my other options? Why do you all like.

Tom

I don't own nor have I fired the XD, and I'll admit bias in favor of the 1911, but you really have to make up your mind for yourself - go to a range where different .45's are available and have a field day. Whichever one feels best that is 100% reliable, go for it.

natedawg
03-09-2009, 9:23 PM
I was in a situation like you, except that I first purchased a 9mm XD 4 inch model. I later stepped up to a .45 1911 5 inch barrel, and quickly sold my XD. Some advantages to the XD are price, ease of breakdown and cleaning, trigger safety, comes with a holster/mag holder/bore brush/etc. I also think that the XD line is generally more user friendly than 1911, as the grip ergonomics are very nice. That said, I think the XD line feels a little cheap compared to most 1911s. Also, the 1911 is far and away a much more pleasant and pleasurable experience to shoot. It might take some getting used to, but in the long run the 1911 is for the most part a better pistol. Go get yourself a Springfield 1911 and see what all the fuss is about (or better yet, get a Kimber).

old-trapper
03-09-2009, 11:59 PM
hk45....there is one in here ...just look back a few days

dilligaffrn
03-10-2009, 10:48 AM
Both 1911's and XD's are good guns, the 1911 is more of a classic, the XD more modern combat tupperware.