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Beswick
03-01-2009, 1:16 AM
So after years of wanting a German K98, I finally picked one up. Got a nice Russian capture BYF 1942. The bore is pretty good, not counterbored. Stock is a really nice laminated, no shellac. Buttplate is a little rough as is the doughnut. Stamps have not been peened and the bluing is very nice. Being a RC, nothing matches, but strangely there are no electro penciling marks anywhere on the gun. Can't find any markings on the stock either.
Overall I'm really happy with it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/Bes_kar_1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/Bes_kar_4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/Bes_kar_2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/Bes_kar_3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/Bes_kar_5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/Bes_kar_6.jpg

RedDawn
03-01-2009, 1:18 AM
Congrats! I love Mausers.

blackfalcon
03-01-2009, 9:55 AM
Beautiful rifle. Not much cleaning up to do either. Now you have to get a sling for it. Original German slings can cost as much as the rifle.

Saigon1965
03-01-2009, 10:04 AM
Oh she looks good - How can one tell if it's a captured or not?

tempdrummer
03-01-2009, 10:08 AM
Oh she looks good - How can one tell if it's a captured or not?

The X on the receiver.

..and the price :thumbsup:

Angelus897
03-01-2009, 10:20 AM
Congrats! I love my Russian capture.

Saigon1965
03-01-2009, 10:44 AM
Good to know as I'll be looking for one soon - Thanks -

The X on the receiver.

..and the price :thumbsup:

Beswick
03-01-2009, 2:34 PM
Thanks for all the compliments guys, I was wondering though if anyone knows why there are two X stamps on the receiver? The one under "4587" looks like the standard Russian capture mark, but not the large X. Anyone know what that stamp is?

MrKyle
03-12-2009, 6:00 PM
The smaller x is part of the rifles serial number. The larger X is most likely the Russian capture mark. Although nothing about captures is typical. Many Russian captures don't even have the X mark.

Beswick
03-12-2009, 6:06 PM
Ya, thanks for clearing that up. I was looking at it the other day and was thinking that the small x might be part of the serial number. Up until recently, I did not know that the Germans started the numbering over after 10,000 and used a letter to denote the next batch of 10,000. Kinda cool, always wanted a K98 but never realized how complicated some of the marking stuff is and what it all means.

minuteman
03-12-2009, 10:39 PM
An interesting piece of history you have there!

Beswick
03-24-2009, 8:31 PM
Here's some pics of a RC BSW k98 I picked up the other day. Doesn't have the X capture mark on it either. Bore is nice as well. I love the early Weimar eagles it has on it, no other maker used them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/BSW_16.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/BSW_15.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/BSW_13.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/BSW_14.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/BSW_17.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/BSW_11.jpg

Sean Vax
03-25-2009, 2:56 PM
Both of those are nice looking rifles :-)

There is a gun shop near my house with a model98 and on the price tag it says "NAZI Proof" does this mean anything special?

Tweak338
03-25-2009, 3:01 PM
Nice Byf 42.
You need a sight hood though!

Beswick
03-25-2009, 3:04 PM
I can only assume that the "nazi proof" means it has the eagles with swastikas on it.

Sean Vax
03-25-2009, 3:52 PM
I can only assume that the "nazi proof" means it has the eagles with swastikas on it.


It has to mean something other than that. It caught my attention and I looked the rifle over a few good times and I didn't see any eagles w/swastikas. I guess I'll just do some research and stop being lazy.

Beswick
03-25-2009, 4:22 PM
What was the code on the receiver?

Sean Vax
03-25-2009, 4:33 PM
Not sure, I will check tomorrow and try to take a couple pics.

usmcchet9296
03-26-2009, 8:51 PM
How much you pay for those
really nice looking rifles

Beswick
03-26-2009, 10:48 PM
Spent more than I really wanted, $350 for the BSW.....and a bit more for the byf because it was at a gun show. The byf was my first k98......so I was just eager to get one.

Xerxes
04-18-2009, 5:16 PM
Spent more than I really wanted, $350 for the BSW.....and a bit more for the byf because it was at a gun show. The byf was my first k98......so I was just eager to get one.


So where did you get these beauties? Both at gun shows?

Also where is all the shellac gone too?

Beswick
04-18-2009, 6:05 PM
I bought the BYF at a gunshow, the BSW off a gunboards member. I bought the BYF RC in the condition you see. I removed the shellac from the BSW because it was flaking. I have since sold the BYF and picked up two vet bringback rifles. A 1937 S/42 and a 1944 BYF L block. The BYF 44 is matching with a phosphate bolt and is like new.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/byf44_5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/byf44_10.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/byf44_6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/byf44_12.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/s42_1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/s42_3.jpg

Beswick
04-18-2009, 6:14 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/byf44_13.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Beswick/byf44_15.jpg

Cato
04-26-2009, 6:02 PM
Congrats! I love RC! You get so much value for the money. I ordered a sight leaf protector, sling, rod, and capture screws to pimp mine out a little. You gotta tell us how it shoots!
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c6/crewrt/100_0606.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c6/crewrt/k98d.jpg

glennsche
04-26-2009, 8:23 PM
The X on the receiver.

..and the price :thumbsup:

many russian captures are missing sight hood and cleaning rod. the guys at century arms allege this was done to comply with "weapons reductions treaties", reducing #s of weapons. they'd slightly "disable" an arsenal or two of rotting guns by removing the cleaning rods and sight hoods and say "we've reduced our weapons capacity!"

not sure if its true, but its a good rumor. :)

FeelthySanchez
06-23-2009, 10:58 AM
Correct MrKyle - the smaller x under the serial number is the s/n suffix, denoting that it fell into the 25th consecutive block of 9,999 rifles produced at Oberndorf in '42.

Nice lookin' rig & it appears to sport a Steyr-produced stock. If interested, pls check on the R side of the butt between the steel takedown washer & buttcap. Should see a WaA 623, or possibly WaA 77 there. It may be faint (if it was sanded after the de-shellac operation) ......

glennsche
06-24-2009, 6:16 PM
cleaning rods are a must. they look naked without them. nicely done cato!

Crusader
06-24-2009, 6:35 PM
cleaning rods are a must. they look naked without them. nicely done cato!

Not to mention they serve a very important purpose...

bplvr
11-01-2009, 10:32 PM
IMA has a really nice repro sling for about $20.00 .They also have the capture screws and the C/L rods ,both lengths. These Mausers are really $1,200 guns for $300.00 .As a true collectible they don't really have much value ,so you can strip the stocks and really make them look nice .The Russians used a "hot dip black" to refinish them.Bar b que paint ,and an oven cure ,do a light steel wool sand and you can fix any blemishes.

emcon5
11-06-2009, 9:12 PM
So what was the original finish of the stock of a K98?

I am thinking about removing the butt-ugly shellac from my RC, but reading various threads on the subject on Gunboards, surplusrifleforum, and here gives me three different answers: Linseed Oil, Boiled Linseed Oil, or Tung Oil.

How were the stocks finished when they were new?

Thanks,

jonni
11-06-2009, 9:13 PM
beautiful

run8
11-07-2009, 9:10 PM
Nothing wrong with the Russian captures, sooner later when the supply dries up they will increase in value. And if your interested in having a German Mauser on a budget, the Russian captures are the way to go.

cruddymutt
12-10-2009, 10:39 PM
Just got mine yesterday. BYF 41, barely peened, bore is mirror and looks new. Came with a bayonet, frog, scabbard, and repro sling. Cleaning rod, sight hood, and capture screws are under the Christmas tree. Shoots excellent, my fav mauser now!!

Dr.Mauser
12-10-2009, 10:56 PM
I just sold my RC, it was a low 3 digit coded, 42 coded 1938, bought it from Classicarms.us before they ran out. Beautiful rifle, dark wood, shiny bore, visible Waffenampts on the stock, it was a great buy. I love my Mauser's (hence the name) My Opa served with them, and loved them to death, said the semi-autos' are an 'impersonal weapon'...said that the bolt action makes you and the rifle 1 machine, he swears by the damn things...(12th SS HJ Vet)