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Rob Roy
02-28-2009, 9:53 PM
Except 1911, what other handguns were built around .45 platform?

oghl888
02-28-2009, 10:07 PM
45 is a fairly low pressure round. Any major brand's 45 will be OK. What ar eyou looking for that the 1911 does not provide?

Rob Roy
02-28-2009, 10:10 PM
Discussing handguns in one of the threads I heard this concept and it just got me wondering.

JJ1911
02-28-2009, 10:17 PM
The .45 ACP stands for .45 Automatic Colt Pistol. The round itself was designed for the 1911. I believe prior to .45 being used, the 1911 was in .38 super, which could penetrate body armor at the time. I could be completely wrong, as this is just what I recall from memory.

Edit: This may not have been what you were asking about, apologies its late and I'm still at work.

CalNRA
02-28-2009, 10:20 PM
dunno if any pistols were built around the 45acp round after the 1911 but yeah, pretty much all major groups have variations in 45 with success. The CZs, GLocks, and the later XDs come to mind

if you want heavy, single action only: 1911

if you want light, SAO: many light weight 1911 frames exist.

if you want heady-ish, DA/SA: CZ or SW.

if you want light and DAO: Glock.

if you want light and DAO, but too cool for Glocks, XDs.

if you want heavy and DAO for some reason, hang a 5-lb weight from your Glock.

JJ1911
02-28-2009, 10:27 PM
dunno if any pistols were built around the 45acp round after the 1911 but yeah, pretty much all major groups have variations in 45 with success. The CZs, GLocks, and the later XDs come to mind

if you want heavy, single action only: 1911

if you want light, SAO: many light weight 1911 frames exist.

if you want heady-ish, DA/SA: CZ or SW.

if you want light and DAO: Glock.

if you want light and DAO, but too cool for Glocks, XDs.

if you want heavy and DAO for some reason, hang a 5-lb weight from your Glock.


Add Sig to that list, they make a great .45, as well as H&K.

Rob Roy
02-28-2009, 10:30 PM
I like the idea of hanging weight... LOL

Gryff
02-28-2009, 10:57 PM
Springfield XD45. Originally designed for 9mm, the gun was re-designed to allow high capacity of .45acp.

BigRich
02-28-2009, 11:21 PM
"I believe prior to .45 being used, the 1911 was in .38 super, "

The 1911 started life as a 45 ACP.

Sam
02-28-2009, 11:23 PM
The .45 ACP stands for .45 Automatic Colt Pistol. The round itself was designed for the 1911. I believe prior to .45 being used, the 1911 was in .38 super, which could penetrate body armor at the time. I could be completely wrong, as this is just what I recall from memory.

Edit: This may not have been what you were asking about, apologies its late and I'm still at work.

I thought the 1911 was designed for the .45 acp and thus the first and original cartridge the gun was used with. I thought the round was a requirement given by the Army for their next pistol and I believe the .38 super was introduced in the 20s.

JJ1911
02-28-2009, 11:38 PM
you're right, like i said its been a long day haha. the 1911 was designed to use the .45. The earlier Colt designs BEFORE the 1911 used .38 ACP, ( the 1900).

comandante costello
03-01-2009, 3:26 AM
Interestingly enough, I can't think of many guns off the top of my head that were originally designed around .45 ACP besides the 1911.

Many great .45s, like the HK USP or Sig 220 were originally, or at least initially, designed for other calibers. Even something new, chambered only in .45, let's say for instance the HK45, you could make the argument that it's just an evolved USP, which was originally designed for .40 S&W. An obvious answer just came to me as I was typing that however, the HK Mk.23 was designed around .45 ACP.

Maybe the CZ-97? Really just an upscaled CZ-75 though.

Of course that may be all be intentional on the part of the manufactures, as has been mentioned, .45 ACP is much lower pressure than 9mm or .40S&W, perhaps it's easier to design guns around those rounds, then just upscale them a bit for .45. The guns can handle it.

tankerman
03-01-2009, 7:16 AM
1917 Revolver was designed to use 45acp with half moon clips.

B Strong
03-01-2009, 9:02 AM
The .45 ACP stands for .45 Automatic Colt Pistol. The round itself was designed for the 1911. I believe prior to .45 being used, the 1911 was in .38 super, which could penetrate body armor at the time. I could be completely wrong, as this is just what I recall from memory.

Edit: This may not have been what you were asking about, apologies its late and I'm still at work.

The .38 ACP isn't the .38 Super, that round didn't come along until 1929.

JJ1911
03-01-2009, 9:38 PM
yeah I mixed the two up in my head, corrected myself above though!

Teletiger7
03-01-2009, 9:42 PM
Just get a 1911

dfletcher
03-01-2009, 9:50 PM
Except 1911, what other handguns were built around .45 platform?

The Liberator? I'd say that was built around the 45 ACP as was the Smith 25.

eaglemike
03-01-2009, 9:53 PM
As noted above, the 1911 was designed for the .45 acp. Remember the 1908 and earlier versions? Theew was an earlier .45 caliber, with dual swigning links, designed for a 200 grain bullet. This version occasionally still pops up.
all the best,
Mike

bohoki
03-01-2009, 11:12 PM
beretta 8045

swiss onepro

JDay
03-02-2009, 1:00 AM
The .45 ACP stands for .45 Automatic Colt Pistol. The round itself was designed for the 1911. I believe prior to .45 being used, the 1911 was in .38 super, which could penetrate body armor at the time. I could be completely wrong, as this is just what I recall from memory.

Edit: This may not have been what you were asking about, apologies its late and I'm still at work.

The 1911 was originally a .45 ACP, Colt didn't chamber it for .38 super until later in the pistols life.

slick_711
03-02-2009, 1:29 AM
The .45 ACP stands for .45 Automatic Colt Pistol. The round itself was designed for the 1911. I believe prior to .45 being used, the 1911 was in .38 super, which could penetrate body armor at the time. I could be completely wrong, as this is just what I recall from memory.

Edit: This may not have been what you were asking about, apologies its late and I'm still at work.

I took the liberty of putting in bold the correct parts of your post. :thumbsup:

CalNRA
03-02-2009, 5:09 AM
beretta 8045

swiss onepro

wasn't the 8000 series first made for 9mm?

slick_711
03-02-2009, 12:46 PM
wasn't the 8000 series first made for 9mm?

The Cougar was designed around .40S&W; and later offered in 9x19, .357Sig, and .45ACP.

merritt
03-02-2009, 3:39 PM
A large number of modern pistols designed around 9mm have cousin pistols that are scaled up for .45

to add to the list
the glock 36 is glock's only single stacker (that I know of) and designed around .45ACP

Rhyyke
03-02-2009, 3:49 PM
dunno if any pistols were built around the 45acp round after the 1911 but yeah, pretty much all major groups have variations in 45 with success. The CZs, GLocks, and the later XDs come to mind

if you want heavy, single action only: 1911

if you want light, SAO: many light weight 1911 frames exist.

if you want heady-ish, DA/SA: CZ or SW.

if you want light and DAO: Glock.

if you want light and DAO, but too cool for Glocks, XDs.

if you want heavy and DAO for some reason, hang a 5-lb weight from your Glock.

i dont own one so im not sure, but i thought the XD was single action only?

JBird33
03-02-2009, 5:22 PM
i dont own one so im not sure, but i thought the XD was single action only?

Kinda sorta not really. Both Glock and Xd use a trigger that acts in essence as a DAO but with a lighter pull weight than a traditional DAO firearm.

slick_711
03-02-2009, 7:53 PM
dunno if any pistols were built around the 45acp round after the 1911 but yeah, pretty much all major groups have variations in 45 with success. The CZs, GLocks, and the later XDs come to mind

if you want heavy, single action only: 1911

if you want light, SAO: many light weight 1911 frames exist.

if you want heady-ish, DA/SA: CZ or SW.

if you want light and DAO: Glock.

if you want light and DAO, but too cool for Glocks, XDs.

if you want heavy and DAO for some reason, hang a 5-lb weight from your Glock.

Where's the Sig P220... arguably better than the options you gave for the last four categories. ;)

Squidward
03-02-2009, 8:16 PM
'if you want light and DAO, but too cool for Glocks, XDs'.
'if you want heavy and DAO for some reason, hang a 5-lb weight from your Glock'.

That's pretty funny.

luisdeleon
03-02-2009, 8:30 PM
you guys might not like this one but baby eagle II comes in .45ACP. one of the best out there.

http://www.magnumresearch.com/products/BE4500RS_R_t.jpg

Rob Roy
03-02-2009, 10:26 PM
Where's the Sig P220... arguably better than the options you gave for the last four categories. ;)
I really loved it's trigger, pleasure to shoot. What I didn't like was its high profile.

Rob Roy
03-02-2009, 10:29 PM
you guys might not like this one but baby eagle II comes in .45ACP. one of the best out there.

http://www.magnumresearch.com/products/BE4500RS_R_t.jpg
I don't think Israelis use BE in military anymore and probably there is a reason for it...

draconianruler
03-02-2009, 10:41 PM
IMHO the SIG 220 is the best .45 platform, including the 1911 :eek::hide:

Rob Roy
03-04-2009, 10:23 PM
IMHO the SIG 220 is the best .45 platform, including the 1911 :eek::hide:
SIG P220 is very nice, no doubt

Sam
03-05-2009, 12:58 AM
IMHO the SIG 220 is the best .45 platform, including the 1911 :eek::hide:

blasphemy! I will never be able to take anything you say seriously from now on!;)

ENTHUSIAST
03-05-2009, 2:35 AM
IMHO the SIG 220 is the best .45 platform, including the 1911 :eek::hide:

WITCH!!! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE UNDER CHARGES OF HERESY AS WELL!!! :inquis:

Sam
03-05-2009, 2:47 AM
WITCH!!! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE UNDER CHARGES OF HERESY AS WELL!!! :inquis:

Get my pitchfork and torch out of the basement honey! We have a witch to burn!