PDA

View Full Version : Glock 19c vs Glock 23


GoingPro
02-19-2009, 7:14 PM
should i pick up the 9mm or .40 ? i already have a 1911 in .45 but i was wondering which would you guys get? what are the pros and cons of the two?....i know a place that has the glock 19c in stock, and im very tempted to buy it with the very little money i got lol! also, my father has a few high cap magazines laying around thats hes willing to give me for a 9mm glock.....i want to make sure that if i use a weapon in SD the person will be "stopped"

Vin496
02-19-2009, 7:20 PM
I'm assuming you went to Ammo Bros as they have both the 19c and 23 in stock. The ammo choice is subjective some love 9mm others .40.

Most will tell you that for SD you probably don't want a compensated 9mm as there really is no need for one, and the likelihood of using it for SD will probably be in a nighttime situation and the compensator is going to put out a lot of flash, which could be detrimental to your night vision.

As for the Hi Caps, you CAN'T have them intact, that is illegal. Your dad can give them to you disassembled, but you cannot use them in California.

One final nitpick, you may want to reword your last sentence.

You want to stop the threat!! That's it.


Anyways, based on the 2 choices above, I would go 23.

Echidin
02-19-2009, 7:32 PM
G19 Forrrr sho'! 9mm = less expensive to shoot. :thumbsup:

PorkLover
02-19-2009, 7:34 PM
why not use your 1911 for SD, .45 would definitely stop the "threat" as for the choice of glocks, I would go for the 19 based on the fact you already own a 1911....ammo is much cheaper in 9mm and the 19 is the "legend" of glocks.....for the record I own a G23 and absolutely love it!........

GoingPro
02-19-2009, 7:35 PM
alright...is it worth to get the glock 19 compensated?

fr0ng
02-19-2009, 7:39 PM
I have a 1911 and a Glock 19. the .40 hurts your hands...stick with 9mm

DVSmith
02-19-2009, 7:42 PM
alright...is it worth to get the glock 19 compensated?


No!

GoingPro
02-19-2009, 7:48 PM
No!

why not ? so i should look for a regular G19?

Crazed_SS
02-19-2009, 7:50 PM
Get the Glock 23 and buy a Storm Lake 9mm conversion barrel and Glock 19 magazine to go along with it.. then you have a Glock 23 and in a few seconds, you can have basically a Glock 19.. best of both worlds :)

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee298/crazed1x/gats/IMG_0242.jpg

GoingPro
02-19-2009, 7:52 PM
Get the Glock 23 and buy a Storm Lake 9mm conversion barrel and Glock 19 magazine to go along with it.. then you have a Glock 23 and in a few seconds, you can have basically a Glock 19.. best of both worlds :)

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee298/crazed1x/gats/IMG_0242.jpg

thats a good idea how much is the conversion?

Doheny
02-19-2009, 7:55 PM
It's surprising you mention a 19C but don't mention a 23C. The 23 certainly has more recoil then the 19C would.

The 19 simply doesn't warrant being compensated...the recoil on the 9mm is minimal.

I have a 23C and would not buy a compensated gun again for the simple reason I ruined my front night sight. I have Trig sights, and after cleaning the powder residue enough times, the white ring on the sight has worn off (and it didn't take long to happen.)

The 23 is pretty snappy. If you already have a .45, I'd go w/ the 9mm.

Vin496
02-19-2009, 7:58 PM
He didn't mention the 23C because the local FFL doesn't have a 23c in stock, they have a 19C and a 23 right now.

If they had a 19, he wouldn't even be considering a 19c.

Obviously someone has a hole burning in their pocket and wants a Glock now.

Seem a lot of people aren't reading his post.

If your willing to wait and find a G19 somewhere, then I would take that over the G23.

Doheny
02-19-2009, 7:58 PM
Get the Glock 23 and buy a Storm Lake 9mm conversion barrel and Glock 19 magazine to go along with it.. then you have a Glock 23 and in a few seconds, you can have basically a Glock 19.. best of both worlds :)

Yep, that's an option I didn't think of.

Pryde
02-19-2009, 8:08 PM
He didn't mention the 23C because the local FFL doesn't have a 23c in stock, they have a 19C and a 23 right now.

If they had a 19, he wouldn't even be considering a 19c.

Obviously someone has a hole burning in their pocket and wants a Glock now.

Seem a lot of people aren't reading his post.

If your willing to wait and find a G19 somewhere, then I would take that over the G23.

I have a 19 slide that I would be more than happy to trade for a 19c slide :D

Bobotheclown
02-19-2009, 8:19 PM
thats a good idea how much is the conversion?

Pretty much $100 for the new 9mm barrel and $25 for a 9mm magazine.

OutlawDon
02-19-2009, 8:39 PM
I went through the exact same deal. I have a Kimber 1911 already.

What did I end up choosing....I bought a G19 online today. ;) Debated between the 19 and 19C...most people on forum said to just go with the regular 19. No need for the compensation....extra flash, powder residue in face/gun/sights, reduced velocity, etc.

Crazed_SS
02-19-2009, 9:28 PM
thats a good idea how much is the conversion?

Barrel costs about 100 bucks..
http://www.stormlakebarrels.com/item/43156_Barrels__Choke_Tubes_Storm_Lake_Storm_Lake_G 23_Barrel_con.aspx

They are very reliable. I think I've shot about 400rds through mine with no problem. Very accurate too.

I got a Glock 19 mag to go along with it because I heard it ensures more reliable feeding.

fishmaniac
02-19-2009, 9:38 PM
I would wait for a Glock 19 regular instead of a 19C or 23.

Oldnoob
02-19-2009, 9:39 PM
Get the G23, then convert it with conversion barrel. Conversion barrel will only run you about $100, and you already have the 9mm mags. Now you can shoot both 40 and 9mm.

I use Lone Wolf 40-9 conversion in my G22 and can't be happier. I'm going to get one for my G23 as well.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f185/johell/My%20gun/Twinglock.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f185/johell/My%20gun/Twinglock2.jpg

GoingPro
02-19-2009, 9:46 PM
i think im going to go tomorrow and get the G23 and do the conversion.

9mmdude
02-19-2009, 9:54 PM
I own both the 19c and 23. The Glock 19 is easy to shoot. The Glock 19c is very easy to shoot. With +P+ rounds the 19c will stay on target rapid fire. Until you shoot one of each you can't imagine how well the "c" model works.

Don't let anyone talk you out of a "C" model. You can buy the regular 19 barrel for about 100 bucks and have the best of both worlds.

Greg-Dawg
02-19-2009, 9:56 PM
Glock Fotay all the way.

kwest10
02-19-2009, 10:01 PM
23 and convert. Or wait for a g19. I have the g23 and shooting +P or any load for that matter in 40 was a beast. I got used to it but still didn't like it and 40 is more expensive. I've actually used the 40 mag with 9mm. Wouldn't use it for SD or competition but will work for punching paper.

GoingPro
02-19-2009, 10:05 PM
I've actually used the 40 mag with 9mm. Wouldn't use it for SD or competition but will work for punching paper.

you lost me at that last sentence?

GoingPro
02-19-2009, 10:07 PM
I own both the 19c and 23. The Glock 19 is easy to shoot. The Glock 19c is very easy to shoot. With +P+ rounds the 19c will stay on target rapid fire. Until you shoot one of each you can't imagine how well the "c" model works.

Don't let anyone talk you out of a "C" model. You can buy the regular 19 barrel for about 100 bucks and have the best of both worlds.

im having all these mixed emotions now.....the compensated sounds fun.....but how reliable is getting a glock 23 and converting the barrel to 9mm?

GoingPro
02-19-2009, 10:09 PM
can i get a glock 19 and put a 40 cal barrel in it ?

kwest10
02-19-2009, 10:29 PM
you can't upgrade to a higher caliber from the 9mm.
I've used my 40 cal glock mags to shoot 9mm when I got my 9mm conversion barrel for my g23. It works but I did have a few fail to feed problems. So if you're competing or using the 9mm conversion barrel don't use to 40 cal mags loaded with 9mm since you want it to be as reliable as possible. But if you're just farting around at the range it's not going to "matter". But since your pops has 9mm mags, no worries.

Oldnoob
02-19-2009, 10:31 PM
can i get a glock 19 and put a 40 cal barrel in it ?

No, because the barrel hole on G19 is too small for 40 cal barrel. The conversion for 40 -> 9 work as thicker the outer ring of barrel to fit that hole. Hence, the regular G19 barrel will not work in G23 slide for the barrel will fit the hole loosely.

GoingPro
02-19-2009, 10:37 PM
ahhhhhhhh i see.......man this is aa tough decision to make.....either get a glock 23 and convert or find a g19....with the g23 ill have both calibers....

Oldnoob
02-19-2009, 10:41 PM
im having all these mixed emotions now.....the compensated sounds fun.....but how reliable is getting a glock 23 and converting the barrel to 9mm?

I suggested G23 and get conversion barrel solely for range purpose. If you want it use for competition and in 9mm, go with G19. Or you can get target 40s&w ammo. I actually shoot better in 40s&w than 9mm, but that's just me.
My G22 have over 2.5K rounds through it, no one single malfunction of any kind. But with LWD conversion barrel, just a bit over 2K round of 9mm, I have 2 FTE from the same box of Wolf military classic. Not too bad, and most likely ammo related, but it no longer a perfect scord for the record. I can live with 99.9% for range use though.

C_1
02-20-2009, 12:18 AM
Since you already have a 45acp caliber handgun, I would suggest a 9mm. But the G19C may not be, for lack of a better word, practical for self defense. However, there's non-ported barrels you can buy to replace the G19C's compensated barrel.

Or you can get the G23 and get a 9mm conversion barrel but it wont be super reliable. Fun at the range type stuff.

Either way, can't go wrong..

OutlawDon
02-20-2009, 1:00 AM
I've got it!!!

Since you're undecided, get the G23C.....now you can shoot it as it is ported in .40, or you can get a 9mm barrel conversion in ported OR non-ported version.

Basically, with this choice, you have the the most options to go with since it's just a barrel swap and the slide is cut open already: ported or non-ported, in 9mm AND .40!

Four ways to go! :thumbsup:

9mmdude
02-20-2009, 1:51 AM
You have a .45. Why buy a .40 when you can get the 9mm and save $$ on ammo costs. Much more practice with extra ammo to shoot.

Don't let anyone tell you you can't use the 19c for self defense. The 19c vents the gas in a v shape pattern away from the shooter.

1923mack
02-20-2009, 9:14 AM
Go with the Glock 23.

kato4moto
02-20-2009, 9:30 AM
The 19c vents the gas in a v shape pattern away from the shooter.

That doesn't help if you're using a retention position (close to your body). But the real criticism of ported handguns is that the muzzle flash around the front sight basically destroys your night vision for a few seconds--most home-defense shootings taking place at night--which is tactical suicide.

SVRider
02-20-2009, 10:05 AM
I read opinions that a 9mm converted 40 is OK for range us, but not a good idea for a "depend on it in a life threatening situation". The breech face of the 40 is wider and the extractor and ejector are designed for the wider cartridge as well. A "depend on it" pistol needs to be 100% under any circumstances....

That being said, get the G19. You've already got a 45 for HD....

JTROKS
02-20-2009, 10:08 AM
That's exactly what I got from a trade. I'm not sure about Storm Lake after market barrels, but the Lone Wolf has a tight chamber and should only be shot with factory ammo or reloads that has been QA'd with a match grade gauge. That said reloads that will work requires using Lee small base dies.


Get the Glock 23 and buy a Storm Lake 9mm conversion barrel and Glock 19 magazine to go along with it.. then you have a Glock 23 and in a few seconds, you can have basically a Glock 19.. best of both worlds :)

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee298/crazed1x/gats/IMG_0242.jpg

Doheny
02-20-2009, 10:09 AM
That doesn't help if you're using a retention position (close to your body). But the real criticism of ported handguns is that the muzzle flash around the front sight basically destroys your night vision for a few seconds--most home-defense shootings taking place at night--which is tactical suicide.

FUD.

Greg-Dawg
02-20-2009, 10:22 AM
FYI: 9mm are gone and there's plenty of .40S&W at WalMart.

rino
02-20-2009, 10:56 AM
I own glock models 19, 20, 21, 23, 24(my fav.), if i had to choose just -ONE- it would be the .40(23). yes, it has a little more snap or kick then the 9mm but it also has a little moe stopping power. with proper shooting skills the recoil is manged. if you want the c model then just order the 9mm conversion with the long ported berral. that will take care of the range plinking and the .40 for stopping power

GoingPro
02-20-2009, 12:15 PM
plus for a home defense situation i would use my saiga 12 haha

Super Spy
03-09-2009, 2:04 PM
I just got a Glock 30 and love it, it shoots the same ammo as the gun you own, and has better stopping power than either the 9mm or 40. I'm not an expert, I did talk to a couple of cop buddies, they recomended the 45 for stopping power, and online research shows the 45 to be an excellent round for a one shot stop!

Good luck1

SevenFifty
03-09-2009, 4:12 PM
Get em both!