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Fastnuf
02-15-2009, 7:41 PM
Sounds like he had the gun in the trunk. Too bad it was "allegedly" loaded.

bulgron
02-15-2009, 7:45 PM
What? Would it kill you to post a link?

mecam
02-15-2009, 7:49 PM
What? Would it kill you to post a link?

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/news/news.aspx?id=4212508

Fastnuf
02-15-2009, 7:50 PM
What? Would it kill you to post a link?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ec15d2&template=without-video&confirm=true

Ummm, Let's see, Where would you find news about an NFL player? Oh yeah, www.nfl.com!

RP1911
02-15-2009, 7:55 PM
http://www.wkbw.com/news/local/39642882.html

scootergmc
02-15-2009, 8:05 PM
Best place to get your NFL arrest log:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/turd-watch/police-blotter/

Tarn_Helm
02-15-2009, 8:38 PM
Best place to get your NFL arrest log:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/turd-watch/police-blotter/

Good link.

Thanks.
:thumbsup:

Linh
02-15-2009, 8:48 PM
I guess you can get him out of the hood but you can't get the hood out of them.

What's up with rich nfl stars tryin to be gangsta. I mean that's what body guard are for.

I'm tired of the rich and famous thinking they are above the law.

Early to judge perhap but at the end of the day he still has his millions and I'm not jealous I rather have enough and be happy.

vrand
02-15-2009, 9:45 PM
Sounds like he had the gun in the trunk. Too bad it was "allegedly" loaded.

Too bad they don't teach the correct way of carrying a firearm in school.

eta34
02-15-2009, 9:47 PM
Sounds like he had the gun in the trunk. Too bad it was "allegedly" loaded.

What do you mean "allegedly?"

Fastnuf
02-15-2009, 10:10 PM
What do you mean "allegedly?"

I haven't seen an official police report.

Kid Stanislaus
02-16-2009, 10:16 AM
Well, at least he has a big 'nuff bank account to deal with it. As for myself, I'll be a bit more careful.

tombinghamthegreat
02-16-2009, 10:23 AM
what if the gun was unloaded but the PD claims its loaded because there is ammo in the same container? I guess we will have to wait and see.

bwiese
02-16-2009, 10:36 AM
What do you mean "allegedly?"

1.) People are innocent until proven guilty.

2.) Lotsa cops misconstrue ammo proximity or separate loaded mag
as equivalent to loaded gun. You can be sure the press will only
report what the cops said, without any analysis.

1911su16b870
02-16-2009, 11:35 AM
Larry Elder once did a radio piece on pro football players and the incident of crime on that category being way above the national average. That may partially explain why so many pro ball players illegally carry, but does not excuse said players for not being properly trained and using their resources to stay lawfull.

DDT
02-16-2009, 11:59 AM
what if the gun was unloaded but the PD claims its loaded because there is ammo in the same container?

If that's the case there is case law stating that the police are incorrect and it is so clear that no charges would ever be filed on that specific issue.

eta34
02-16-2009, 1:18 PM
I haven't seen an official police report.

Gotcha. My sensitivity meter was a little finely tuned. I was expecting this to turn into some kind of "cops loaded an unloaded gun and framed the guy" discussion. My apologies.

Regarding the ammo proximity issue, I can vouch for that first hand. I have had to correct other officers on two occasions when they gave out this information to citizens.

pingpong
02-16-2009, 2:13 PM
It's plausible that Marshawn had a NY CCW (being a high-profile NFL player and all) and didn't realize that California doesn't honor it, right? I met him in person a couple times, and he seemed really humble, down-to-earth, and overall a good guy.

In any case, you know that he's gonna be getting an earful (and probably more) from his momma...

bulgron
02-16-2009, 2:15 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ec15d2&template=without-video&confirm=true

Ummm, Let's see, Where would you find news about an NFL player? Oh yeah, www.nfl.com!

Would you believe that I simply could not parse, "Bills RB Lynch"? Believe it or not, some of us really are not football fans and so in looking at that I just couldn't put it into context.

Generally, a link is always a good idea.

For the curious, I see professional sports as a giant waste of time and money, so I tuned out decades ago. IMO, they only serve to contribute to the decline of the American spirit and so also to the decline of American freedoms. False team identity, real imitation competition, bread and circuses, a distraction from the truly important events of the Republic, they are all of this and more.

I'm actually proud that "Bills RB Lynch" was absolute gibberish to me. It means that my attention is on other (hopefully more significant) things.

CalNRA
02-16-2009, 2:47 PM
Gotcha. My sensitivity meter was a little finely tuned. I was expecting this to turn into some kind of "cops loaded an unloaded gun and framed the guy" discussion. My apologies.

Regarding the ammo proximity issue, I can vouch for that first hand. I have had to correct other officers on two occasions when they gave out this information to citizens.

Every cop except two I spoke to said mag with ammo=loaded weapon, with some insist ammo and empty magazine on same person=loaded weapon). And one of the two who did know the law is a moderator on this site(at least I think he is one now).

So I'm waiting until the details come out.

And on topic, was it California loaded or Fish and game loaded? :p

Creeping Incrementalism
02-16-2009, 6:46 PM
I met him in person a couple times, and he seemed really humble, down-to-earth, and overall a good guy.

Didn't he leave Cal a year early? I lose a huge amount of respect for players who drop out to go pro. I shout myself hoarse for these guys at Memorial Stadium, and they thank us by leaving early.

DDT
02-16-2009, 9:37 PM
Didn't he leave Cal a year early? I lose a huge amount of respect for players who drop out to go pro. I shout myself hoarse for these guys at Memorial Stadium, and they thank us by leaving early.

It's tough to blame them. They play in college for 2 or 3 years making no real money all the time raising big bucks for the University. Then someone hangs a big ol' check over their head and you expect them to pass on it?

Ok, let's say they pass on that check. Now, if they get hurt in the next year or 2 they got squat. If they don't perform as well that check gets smaller, so here are their options:
1) Take a big ol' check today
2) Work really hard for 1 or 2 more years and HOPE you don't get hurt and MAYBE get a bigger check later
3) Sit on your butt and make sure you stay healthy for another year or 2 so that you can collect a smaller check.

Seems like easy math to me.

11Z50
02-16-2009, 9:48 PM
It's tough to blame them. They play in college for 2 or 3 years making no real money all the time raising big bucks for the University. Then someone hangs a big ol' check over their head and you expect them to pass on it?

Ok, let's say they pass on that check. Now, if they get hurt in the next year or 2 they got squat. If they don't perform as well that check gets smaller, so here are their options:
1) Take a big ol' check today
2) Work really hard for 1 or 2 more years and HOPE you don't get hurt and MAYBE get a bigger check later
3) Sit on your butt and make sure you stay healthy for another year or 2 so that you can collect a smaller check.

Seems like easy math to me.

Howzabout going to college, get a degree, and stay between the lines, like the rest of us. The stupid acts of these dipshizz fools, which purportedly all hold at least a Bachelor's Degree, astounds me. I worked my azz off, worked graveyard and went to class during the day to get my sheepskin. These boneheads get the wink and smile and sail thru college and still cannot speak correct English, or obey the law. If you look at their college records, you can bet they all had great grades, and graduated fully educated. BS!!!! Gifted athletes are just that, gifted, and they should realize that. The idiot level in pro sports indicates to me our kids have no business holding them as heroes.

DDT
02-17-2009, 12:06 AM
Howzabout going to college, get a degree, and stay between the lines, like the rest of us. The stupid acts of these dipshizz fools, which purportedly all hold at least a Bachelor's Degree, astounds me. I worked my azz off, worked graveyard and went to class during the day to get my sheepskin. These boneheads get the wink and smile and sail thru college and still cannot speak correct English, or obey the law. If you look at their college records, you can bet they all had great grades, and graduated fully educated. BS!!!! Gifted athletes are just that, gifted, and they should realize that. The idiot level in pro sports indicates to me our kids have no business holding them as heroes.

I am having a difficult time following your argument here. If they don't have the intelligence or interest in pursuing a degree why are you against them leaving college to pursue a career in a field where they excel?

As for keeping their noses clean I have no problem with making that demand of anyone who wishes to be a citizen of this great nation. I agree that people should not be idolized for being an athlete without regard for the rest of their behavior. If that is the entirety of your rant then I don't see the reason it was directed at me as I never said otherwise.

Creeping Incrementalism
02-21-2009, 12:02 AM
It's tough to blame them. They play in college for 2 or 3 years making no real money all the time raising big bucks for the University.

That is not logical. They are only making big bucks for the university because us fans are buying tickets and cheering them on. The relationship is reciprocal, not one way.

Philthy
02-21-2009, 1:16 AM
I guess you can get him out of the hood but you can't get the hood out of them.

What's up with rich nfl stars tryin to be gangsta. I mean that's what body guard are for.

I'm tired of the rich and famous thinking they are above the law.

Early to judge perhap but at the end of the day he still has his millions and I'm not jealous I rather have enough and be happy.

He's from Oakland. What's he supposed to do? Go preppy? Look at his picture!

People who get rich overnight, like athletes or musicians, don't know what to do with themselves. It's like going 0-120mph in 2 seconds. One day, you are poor, the next you have more money than god. And they're 21 or 22.
When I was 21, I was poor (I somehow subsisted on Ramen/29 cent hamburger Weds and 39 cent cheeseburger Sundays and Natural Light/PBR), but I still managed to do some pretty stupid stuff (boy was it fun!). I think the problem with people like Marshawn is the people they surround themselves with. The people who want to tag along. Case in point: MC Hammer. He wanted to help his friends out and they just took him for everything he had.

Philthy
02-21-2009, 1:30 AM
IMO, they only serve to contribute to the decline of the American spirit and so also to the decline of American freedoms. False team identity, real imitation competition, bread and circuses, a distraction from the truly important events of the Republic, they are all of this and more.

I'm actually proud that "Bills RB Lynch" was absolute gibberish to me. It means that my attention is on other (hopefully more significant) things.

Not everyone is into chess or sudoku. How does football contribute to the decline of our spirit and freedom? Freedom?? (this one is boggling my mind). Maybe you could say it's like an opiate or distraction while our rights are being eroded - but how does it contribute to the erosion of either our spirit or our freedom?

And what are the "truly important events of the Republic?" I'm no sports nut, but living in the bay area and watching the news, I knew who he was.

In any event, you now know who Marshawn Lynch is.

wash
02-21-2009, 1:39 AM
If it was required to have a degree to make a good living doing a job that you are good at, I would be broke and flipping burgers right now. I'm not very good at school, that's my excuse.

If someone waved a few hundred thousand to a few million at me I would jump at it in an instant. I wouldn't blame anyone else for jumping at that either (unless the money was from drug dealing or something).

Any other attitude on the subject is selfish because you are putting your wishes above their decision.

Do you know what Troy Aikman did a few weeks ago? He completed his degree at UCLA. While it's not quite the same thing as a person that left a year or two early, it shows that if they want to, a professional athlete can finish their education at any time. I'm sure he paid his tuition and registration fees.

Lastly, looking at a player who leaves two years early instead of a player that leaves after four years, if they are both "stars" and retire at the same age, the guy that stays just lost two of his highest salary years so the loss is a lot bigger than the contract they sign after the draft.

As much as I like seeing great players in college basketball, I think that the Kobe's and KG's should get to skip college and go pro if they want. It would be much better if the NBA and NFL had a draft more like the Baseball draft where everyone can get drafted and then the kids decide if they want to go to college or go to the minor leagues. That way we wouldn't have a bunch of kids getting bad advice and throwing away a college education because they declare for the draft and don't get picked.

In a politics and law forum we should all respect people's rights to make their own decisions.

And lastly, that player/fan relationship is almost exclusively one way. Schools make millions with their revenue sports but all the players get is a free education and medical coverage, the NCAA keeps them from getting anything else (in theory).

In pro ball a coach usually makes less money than their best player. In college a coach can make half a million a year or more for a top division 1 program. If you are extremely generous you might say that a scholarship athlete is getting benefits worth perhaps $100,000.00 a year. Since the free market dictates that a good player should be worth more than a coach, college players are clearly being exploited.

Of course I believe revenue sports are good despite the exploitation, it pays for scholarships in non-revenue sports, the sports that student athletes use for an education instead of a professional sports career.

I just don't think a handful of athletes leaving early hurts the revenue of these revenue sports so much that it causes any problems for the athletes who play for an education. Even if it did hurt the revenue enough to effect those kids, it would be socialism to force the revenue sport athletes to stay amateur for their sake.