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saki302
02-10-2009, 12:56 AM
Anyone know who to vote for (bseides trutanich) on the upcoming L.A. election?

Particularly for mayor, etc?

-Dave

DedEye
02-10-2009, 1:34 AM
Um, not Villaraigosa?

Just guessing :shrug:.

glockman19
02-10-2009, 6:26 AM
Not Tony Villar, NOT Weiss.

I'd say any and all incumbants should go.

I'd vote for Laura Chick if she were running.

We CAN NOT have another 4 years of Tony Villar. He's been a failure.

lioneaglegriffin
02-10-2009, 10:49 AM
Walter Moore....

Fate
02-10-2009, 11:19 AM
We CAN NOT have another 4 years of Tony Villar. He's been a failure.
Sadly, the opposition just isn't known, so he's likely to be re-elected regardless of how lousy he is.

MikeH1
02-10-2009, 2:34 PM
Walter Moore....

+1 if we need change anywhere, L.A. is the place.

http://web.mac.com/waltermoore/WalterMooreForMayor/Home.html

saki302
02-10-2009, 9:32 PM
I would like to know who besides Villamygrossa is most likely to win- so they can get my vote :D

-Dave

eflatminor
02-10-2009, 10:01 PM
Tony has got to be the worst mayor in America. His spending is so far out of control, it's sick. And what about that 19% factor? Apparently, his own schedule showed that he actually works for the city 19% of the time. Lovely.

Who's got the best chance to beat this guy, regardless of their position on the 2nd?

lioneaglegriffin
02-10-2009, 10:27 PM
I would like to know who besides Villamygrossa is most likely to win- so they can get my vote :D

-Dave


Tony has got to be the worst mayor in America. His spending is so far out of control, it's sick. And what about that 19% factor? Apparently, his own schedule showed that he actually works for the city 19% of the time. Lovely.

Who's got the best chance to beat this guy, regardless of their position on the 2nd?

Walter Moore has raised $202,548 and has qualified for $43,000 in city matching funds, has been the most outspoken critic of the mayor for refusing to debate. best bet of the group.

swordtail99
02-11-2009, 2:37 PM
Walter Moore is only choice. He's conservative, tough on illegal immigration and is a supporter of Jameil's Law.

saki302
02-11-2009, 4:49 PM
Done. I'm voting for Moore.

Now how about for controller and the school district votes? :D

-Dave

Casual Observer
02-11-2009, 5:11 PM
Walter Moore is only choice. He's conservative, tough on illegal immigration and is a supporter of Jameil's Law.

Which is probably why he'll never win in a liberal cesspool like LA ;)

lioneaglegriffin
02-11-2009, 5:29 PM
Which is probably why he'll never win in a liberal cesspool like LA ;)

hey the cesspool your talking about is my hometown. Only Angeleno's get to call it a cesspool.:chris:

eflatminor
02-11-2009, 5:33 PM
I heard Moore speak. Seemed to be focusing on the right stuff. Don't know where he stands on the 2nd or my Libertarian leaning values, but compared to Tony, Moore gets my vote.

lioneaglegriffin
02-12-2009, 8:27 PM
I heard Moore speak. Seemed to be focusing on the right stuff. Don't know where he stands on the 2nd or my Libertarian leaning values, but compared to Tony, Moore gets my vote.

this might shed some light i was looking and this is what i found out about his stance on gangs and guns.

Walter Moore for Mayor of Los Angeles

Mayor4U.com

Villaraigosa, Guns, Gangs and Groundhog Day
By Walter Moore, Candidate for Mayor of Los Angeles, WalterMooreForMayor.com

June 1, 2008
Remember the movie "Groundhog Day," where Bill Murray keeps living the same day over and over again? Mayor Villaraigosa is inflicting the same deja vu on us with his "new" proposals for more laws on guns and gangs.

This week, Mayor Villaraigosa took some time out of his busy international travel schedule to announce, for about the nine millionth time, that he supports "new" laws to stop gang members from getting guns.

The L.A. Times / Hoy treated this as news, but it wasn't. In November 2007, Villaraigosa issued a press release congratulating himself for having supposedly adopted, in April 2007, "a comprehensive approach to combating and reducing gun and gang violence in LA." Villaraigosa had issued a similar press release in February 2007, saying, "If we can stop guns from illegally falling into the hands of gangs, we can stop the violence and stop the killings." In August 2006, same story.

In fact, we already have laws on the books that Villaraigosa could use to fight gangs. Consider the following California Penal Code provisions on gangs and guns:

Section 186.22(a) already makes it a crime, subject to imprisonment, to actively participate in any criminal street gang with knowledge that its members engage in or have engaged in a pattern of criminal gang activity, and to willfully assist in that conduct. Note: prosecutors don't even have to prove use or possession of a gun to obtain a conviction under this statute.

Section 12025(a) already makes it a crime to carry a concealed firearm on one's person or "within any vehicle." And, under Section 12025(b)(3) it's a felony a gang member to do so. Section 12031 says pretty much the same thing regarding loaded weapons.

Section 12021 makes it a felony for convicted felons and drug addicts to have possession of a firearm. Section 626.9 makes it a felony to have a gun on school grounds.

Various other provisions authorize imprisonment for criminals caught using the guns. For example, Section 246 makes it a crime to shoot at an inhabited house, building, car or airplane.

So we've already got laws galore to stop gang members from using guns. We don't need more laws. We need more enforcement.

Villaraigosa, however, expects us to believe that the City needs to adopt ordinances:


Banning .50 caliber bullets

Licensing ammunition vendors

Requiring gun dealers to keep better gun inventories

Requiring ammunition purchases to in-person, face-to face

Banning the installation of secret gun compartments in cars

Seizing the vehicles used by gang members while committing gang-related crimes

Enabling landlords to evict gang members convicted of violent crimes with firearms.
Villaraigosa's proposed new laws would waste scarce law enforcement resources and tax dollars, and embroil the City in pointless litigation.


For example, does anyone seriously believe that crime will drop if the City of Los Angeles bans.50 caliber bullets? More likely, the City would simply get sued for trying to adopt gun regulations in a field that only the state and national governments are allowed to regulate. The City would lose, just as San Francisco did when it tried to ban handguns.

As for the proposal to seize cars gang members use when they commit crimes, are you kidding me? For that to work, a gang member must reason as follows: "Well, I was going to do a drive-by shooting tonight, for which I might serve five years in jail, but now that the City might seize my car, I think I'll just stay home and play video games instead."

As for the ban on secret gun compartments in cars, how much time will our attorneys waste in court litigating whether a given compartment was for a gun, or was instead installed to protect valuables? It's already illegal to carry a concealed weapon in a car. Let's prosecute gang members for that.

Perhaps Villaraigosa does not realize we already have laws on the books already to combat gangs and guns. After all, he never did pass the Bar Exam despite four attempts and three years in law school.

More likely, however, Villaraigosa thinks you don't know any better, and he wanted to stage yet another photo-op to show how "tough" on crime he is.

If I'm elected Mayor, I won't re-invent the wheel by proposing redundant new laws. Instead, I will build the police force from the current 9,700 or so officers to at least 12,500, and they will zealously enforce existing laws. I will immediately end Villaraigosa's "sanctuary city" policy for gang members -- and all other illegal aliens, for that matter.

I will also work with city, county and federal prosecutors and officials to ensure that all gang members receive and serve the maximum sentences permitted by law. And for any of those who are illegal aliens, I will ensure that, after serving their time, they are deported, not released back into our community.

If you want a Mayor who will make every neighborhood a safe neighborhood, you have to take action. Contribute to my campaign. Get a bumper sticker for your friends. Sign up for my newsletter. And tell your friends about my campaign. Click here to make it happen.

yellowfin
02-12-2009, 11:10 PM
hey the cesspool your talking about is my hometown. Only Angeleno's get to call it a cesspool.:chris:Communist overrun pit of hell then?

7x57
02-13-2009, 7:51 AM
hey the cesspool your talking about is my hometown. Only Angeleno's get to call it a cesspool.:chris:

I've lived in LA county, at least, for 20 years. I think I've paid enough dues. Cesspool cesspool cesspool cesspool cesspool cesspool cesspool. :43:

That said, I'll defer to any poor slob from the free world that moved to the godforsaken blight on humanity that is Santa Monica.

7x57

Casual Observer
02-13-2009, 9:41 AM
hey the cesspool your talking about is my hometown. Only Angeleno's get to call it a cesspool.:chris:

I lived in LA County (Carson / Torrance area) for 20 years. Went to high school in San Pedro.

I know all about LA politics. :cool:

lioneaglegriffin
02-13-2009, 2:43 PM
I lived in LA County (Carson / Torrance area) for 20 years. Went to high school in San Pedro.

I know all about LA politics. :cool:

ok. all forgiven. Sometimes i wish i could live in washington, where the guns run free and the sun barely shines. ah heaven.

citpeks2000
02-17-2009, 11:20 AM
At the last HCR meeting, I had the opportunity to see three of the L.A. Mayoral candidates speak: Phil Jennerjahn, David Hernandez, and Walter Moore. All three were excellent and impressed me in different ways. Please, I encourage everyone to view the meeting, make an informed decision, and VOTE!

http://www.freedombroadcastnetwork.com/default.asp?JumpToType=2&JumpTo=/menu/fbn/political/california/southern/hcr/hcr_main.pdv

Remember, only 11% of L.A. County voted in the last municipal election. This election will probably be even lower, which means even a couple of hundred votes will make a difference. Villaraigosa CAN be beat.

lioneaglegriffin
02-17-2009, 12:05 PM
At the last HCR meeting, I had the opportunity to see three of the L.A. Mayoral candidates speak: Phil Jennerjahn, David Hernandez, and Walter Moore. All three were excellent and impressed me in different ways. Please, I encourage everyone to view the meeting, make an informed decision, and VOTE!

http://www.freedombroadcastnetwork.com/default.asp?JumpToType=2&JumpTo=/menu/fbn/political/california/southern/hcr/hcr_main.pdv

Remember, only 11% of L.A. County voted in the last municipal election. This election will probably be even lower, which means even a couple of hundred votes will make a difference. Villaraigosa CAN be beat.

exactly people who don't like what he's done don't show up because they think he is invincible. all it takes is a good turnout agaisnt him.