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Otony
02-03-2009, 8:19 AM
OK, for the record, I will only gloat this once.

YEAH, MOVING OUT OF THIS CRUMMY STATE FINALLY!!!!!!!!

Whew, got that out of my system. So, we are in the South Bay and are moving to Walla Walla. Who do I contact about moving/freight for my Liberty Franklin 50 (approx. 1100 empty)?

I called Liberty in San Jose, the boss won't be in until tomorrow, but I rather doubt they are the way to go for a long distance move. In town, sure, state to state, I don't think so. I will contact them for suggestions however.

Any suggestions for a freight company that is qualified for the job? Would the cost be so high as to warrant selling the safe here and buying another in Washington?

Anyone ever had a safe moved long ditance?

4thSeal
02-03-2009, 9:37 AM
all you need is a safe dolly and some people to help you push it up into the moving truck...

wether it is cheaper sell it here than to move it would depend on the cost of the safe.

BroncoBob
02-03-2009, 10:28 AM
all you need is a safe dolly and some people to help you push it up into the moving truck...

wether it is cheaper sell it here than to move it would depend on the cost of the safe.

The specs for this safe state that it weighs 1105 lbs. Going to need a whole lot of friends and a really strong dolly.
Franklin Series Model 50 Gun Safes





Liberty Gun Safe Franklin Series Model FR-50
Item# LIB-Franklin-50
Regular price: $2,880.00
Sale price: $2,299.00
Color:: Textured BlackTextured GreenTextured GraniteGloss Black (+$400.00)Gloss Burgundy (+$400.00)Gloss Forest Green (+$400.00)Gloss Gray Marble (+$100.00)
Ordering DetailsProduct Description




O.D.: 72.5" h x 42" w x 27.5" d
Depth with Handle: 30.5"
Weight 1105 lbs.
14 - 1.25" bolts
Holds 41 long guns
I.D.: 58" h x 38.5" w x 20.5" d
83,000 BTU (60 minutes at 1200-1400°)
4-in-1 Flex™ Interior
11 Gauge steel body
Door thickness: 1" composite

tlillard23
02-03-2009, 10:30 AM
sell it. have fun in the rain. Install a safe room in your mansion.

jazman
02-03-2009, 10:38 AM
It's not the rain so much, it's the 11 months without seeing the sun. Put a nice chair and a sun lamp in the safe! :D:cool2::D
Good luck with the move!

MudCamper
02-03-2009, 10:40 AM
have fun in the rain.

Walla Walla is way on the eastern side of the state. Quite dry actually.

Greg-Dawg
02-03-2009, 10:58 AM
WA is nice, they actually have "micro" weather where the weather changes constantly in different cities.

I'd just hire a professional moving company to help you out.

Gun laws are nice in WA, but the State Tax will eat you up since it's a very "GREEN" state. I hope you landed a great job over there!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/WASeattle2.jpg

WokMaster1
02-03-2009, 11:00 AM
Say hi to the onions for me. Maybe you can organize a "group buy" when the season starts.:D

deleted by PC police
02-03-2009, 11:04 AM
I hired movers to load a rental truck when I moved to Utah. They didn't show up with any equipment, fortunatley I rented an appliance dolly but it was barely up to the task. What ever you do be damned sure to let them know how heavy it is and EXACTLY what you want them to do. I figured hiring movers they would show up with the tools they needed to do the job, big suprise. Also another thing to keep in mind is those ramps for U-Hauls and trucks like that are only rated for 1000lbs. It was scary with my safe on it and two people and my safe only weighs 600+ lbs.

Rivers
02-03-2009, 11:29 AM
Renting a forklift might be prudent.

SanSacto
02-03-2009, 11:34 AM
Renting a forklift might be prudent.

I wish I had an excuse to rent a forklift! That would be awesome to just play around with!

gunboat
02-03-2009, 11:37 AM
How did you get it in your present house?

CHS
02-03-2009, 11:46 AM
Sell the safe locally, make the buyer responsible for moving.

When you get up to WA, buy a new, larger one in-state. There are lots of new toys you'll be buying :)

Otony
02-03-2009, 1:26 PM
Well, a few interesting suggestions but I still need to actively investigate shipping it I guess.

First of all, it was delivered to the present location when we purchased it. I have contacted the Liberty Safe folks in San Jose (the original retailers) for additional information which will be forthcoming.

To answer a few questions and comments: Most moving companies have flat out said "no way" to touching the safe. By moving companies I mean conventional furniture/belonging transporters. Those companies have universally recommended hiring a freight line for the move, but not all freight lines will accept safes, nor do they all have heavy duty lift gates. Forget about trying to push this up a ramp, I cannot see THAT happening with my back. 1100 pounds uphill? Ah, no. Fork lift was actually a good suggestion, but I will see what various freight companies have to say on the subject.

Selling it may well be the way to go IF I can locate a similar safe in Walla Walla. I cannot recover my cost when selling (well, maybe I can, we bought this 5 years ago and costs have JUMPED up since then), but I don't want to pay close to even the original purchase price to move it either. Plus, I have no idea where to buy one in our new area, but I can find that out easily enough. Moving costs would have to be outrageous for me to sell I think.

As to the area, no, no, the rain is NOT like western Washington. In fact, Walla Walla is considered the "Napa" of Washington, with 63 wineries in the town and outskirts! It is the 2nd largest grape growing region in the USA, plus tons of wheat, apples and cherries. Yeah, the property tax rate may be considered high, but it is less than Oregon. It scales from 11 to 18 bucks per thousand, but since houses are 1/4 the cost of California.........well, you do the math.

If we buy an equivalent house to ours (2000 sq ft, 1/4 acre) I am looking at about 230,000 bucks. I'll will take the tax rate on that over what I have now any day.

I haven't found a job (yet) 'cause I am retiring at the end of the month from 32 years of Federal Service. Plus we just sold our house here for a decent price. I am interested in looking for some part time work, but there isn't a need, just a desire. I am actually kind of excited about the possibility of working in a winery, but teaching is also an option. Or working in a gun shop!! No onion picking though, that is too close to my youth.

Any one know of a reputable freight shipper?

Sig556
02-03-2009, 3:55 PM
What if you rent a truck with a lift gate and get some guys to help you load it? Then when you get to Washington, hire some guys to help you unload it and move it into the house? Also, Make sure to use a powered heavy duty handtruck. That way if you have to go up any steps it's a lot easier.

Sig556
02-03-2009, 4:01 PM
Sell the safe locally, make the buyer responsible for moving.

When you get up to WA, buy a new, larger one in-state. There are lots of new toys you'll be buying :)


If you do sell your safe, I would get two smaller safe's. Something in the 700lb range and just bolt it down. That way if you ever move again, you unbolt it and put it in the back of a pick up.

leitung
02-03-2009, 4:26 PM
Enjoy washington state, I am about 2 years behind you right now, But I am going to the puget sound area..

Tony.
02-03-2009, 9:10 PM
WA is nice, they actually have "micro" weather where the weather changes constantly in different cities.

I'd just hire a professional moving company to help you out.

Gun laws are nice in WA, but the State Tax will eat you up since it's a very "GREEN" state. I hope you landed a great job over there!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/WASeattle2.jpg

Actually, there is no state income tax in WA state.

SVT-40
02-03-2009, 11:07 PM
Actually a very easy way to move safes is with a pallet jack. Empty the safe and wedge something strong you can pry with under one side. Lever it up and place wood blocks under that side. Repeat on the other side. Go back and forth until you have placed enough blocks under the safe to allow the pallet jack under it. Wheel the jack out using plywood over any tile. Make ramps out of wood to cover door thresholds and wheel it outside. Most lift gate type trucks will handle 1,100 lbs. Make a small wood ramp and wheel the safe onto the gate. Carefully lift the gate and wheel it in and tie it securely in the bed. Just repeat in reverse at your new location.

I've moved six or seven safes this way.

Lissauer
02-04-2009, 5:54 AM
Get a half pallet from a printing shop (it will take the weight), put the safe on it and move it with a pallet jack.

Sig556
02-04-2009, 8:11 AM
Actually a very easy way to move safes is with a pallet jack. Empty the safe and wedge something strong you can pry with under one side. Lever it up and place wood blocks under that side. Repeat on the other side. Go back and forth until you have placed enough blocks under the safe to allow the pallet jack under it. Wheel the jack out using plywood over any tile. Make ramps out of wood to cover door thresholds and wheel it outside. Most lift gate type trucks will handle 1,100 lbs. Make a small wood ramp and wheel the safe onto the gate. Carefully lift the gate and wheel it in and tie it securely in the bed. Just repeat in reverse at your new location.

I've moved six or seven safes this way.

SVT...that sounds like a good idea too.

esskay
02-04-2009, 10:49 AM
Congrats on the retirement and move!

Not sure if you mean South Bay in SF area or LA area?

I'd suggest talking to some safe specialists in your area to get suggestions on freight/moving companies.

In SF, try calling Ken Doyle, he posts on the forums under KenSFO:
http://www.advancedsafe.com/

In LA, try Dave Richardson.
http://www.richardsonsafe.com/index.html

bwiese
02-04-2009, 11:05 AM
Otony,

You may be getting refusals from movers who think your safe is the weight/size/ of a bank-grade safe.

Have you told them its exact weight & size?
Perhaps you could call it a 'security container' instead of a safe?
Do they think guns will be in it and are shying away from it for that reason?

Oh - find out how a grand piano is moved and extrapolate from there.


BTW- any Ruger single-actions for sale? <bseg> ;)

rayra
02-04-2009, 1:55 PM
LMFAO at the OP for cheering about a State where the Democrats literally STOLE the Gubernatorial election. And that contains the liberal insanity or Seattle AND the States far-left ecological policies. Enjoy.

Sgt Raven
02-04-2009, 4:05 PM
Do you have a pick-up truck that the safe would fit in laying down? You could have Liberty Safe load it for you and a safe company move it in your new house.

AKman
02-04-2009, 5:13 PM
I just read a report on gangs and it noted that MS-13 had moved into Washington State, including Walla Walla. Good luck.

Otony
02-04-2009, 6:53 PM
We are putting most of our stuff into PODS for storage, which will then be transported via movers. The remainder goes into a temporary apt, and will be moved by us via a self driven rental truck. I talked to the guys at Liberty, they will load it into the rental truck for us using a fork lift. I will make arrangements ahead of time to have help removing it in Walla Walla.

Bill, good questions all around, and please believe me when I tell you that I covered all that ground. It seems to be a weight issue more than anything else. I get the feeling from my research that unless I hire someone who specifically moves things like pianos and safes, most common carriers are not interested. A solution is at hand with Liberty however, so I simply need to find some one with a fork lift in Walla Walla. I will also investigate other fork lift arrangments here, but Liberty seems to have a pretty good price thus far. Sorry, no Blackhawks for sale! :D

rayra, while what you post is true, for our purposes Washington is still a far better place to live than here, hands down. What was once a wonderful place when I arrived in 1956 has turned into an oppressive, over crowded, poorly educated, nanny state. My house sale will allow us to bank 3/4s of our profit and still buy a comparable (or better house) in a wonderful area. Better for my family and I. Kind of hard to argue with that, and where I live really comes right down to my needs, not your perceptions, doesn't it?

Every state has its good and bad points. For us, Washington is better, simple as that. There are many things I will miss about California. Actually no, there is only one thing I will miss, the weather. Otherwise, there is little to hold us here. So sorry, your rain missed my parade.

Folks, California is quite obviously great in many respects, it is simply no longer for us. I will be an hours drive from the Snake and Columbia Rivers, and less than that to the Umatilla National Forest. There is good hunting close by, good fishing close by, tolerable weather, easily available concealed weapons permits, friendly folks, with a small town atmosphere that I miss from my youth. In short, many benefits that for us are not out weighed by pitfalls which are to be found in some measure in ALL states. I simply tire of this state, and many here share my sentiments.

There may be better places, there may be worse, it is all subjective. I have had my fill here, we will leave it at that. Also, I have endured the 30 day ban here, I don't care to again. Lets not turn this into an arguement or a pissing match. Thanks for everyone's suggestions, well wishes, and warnings. I will take all to heart.

"Goodnight, Mrs. Calabash, wherever you are!"

yakchin
02-04-2009, 8:31 PM
Congrats on the move. One item to mention, a little late it apears, is that the WA sales tax code exempts gun safes from sales tax. A little incentive for gun owners to purchase one. Walla Walla is a nice area with a historic downtown and wineries around the area. Throw in the ability to get a concealed weapons permit, in state deer and elk hunting, waterfowl and upland bird hunting it is a nice place to be.

Thumper
02-04-2009, 11:16 PM
Hope you have a good move Otony. I am going to go look at houses in Nevada in a couple weeks. I also have the same feelings as you towards California, but I have only been here since 1972, the year I popped out :thumbsup: I lived in Washington state for a year, in Yakima, I loved it. I appreciate the research you have done on moving of safes. I bought a Liberty Safe from San Jose shop as well and would need to do the same thing.

jon.

TheBundo
02-05-2009, 7:44 AM
Use a SkyHook