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02-02-2009, 7:34 AM
I like the look of these rifles.

Does anyone have experience with their reliability and legality?

I didn't see them on the ban list so would they be legal with a BB and a muzzle brake?

02-02-2009, 7:39 AM
They are perfectly legal. Just like any other OLL, either BB or featureless. Mine is plenty reliable and the overall finish is top notch.

02-02-2009, 8:11 AM
With a bullet button, you don't need a muzzle brake. But yes, they're off list.

02-02-2009, 8:26 AM
I want to buy one also. The standard with carry handle. Where is the best price for the standard model?


02-02-2009, 8:57 AM
I want to buy one also. The standard with carry handle. Where is the best price for the standard model?


Nowadays, they are kind of pricey. I saw them selling at the last gunshow for around $1700. Usually, they are around $1200.

02-02-2009, 9:13 AM
I have a S&W lower, but the only S&W uppers I can find that are sold are 5.45. Anyone know where to get in line for one of their 5.56 uppers? I will say that the machine work and finish on the M&P lower was head and shoulders above my Kaiser lower.

02-02-2009, 9:49 PM
S&W will soon be releasing the M&P15 MOE and gas piston versions.

My M&P15T is off the hook. It's absolutely reliable and accurate.

02-02-2009, 10:09 PM
I bought the standard M&P15 from ten percent last year. Have the BB on mine. Have had no issues with mine. very nice fit and finish. Total cost was around $1200.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/deamersjeep/th_MVI_1821.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v678/deamersjeep/?action=view&current=MVI_1821.flv)

02-03-2009, 12:33 AM
Thanks, I didn't know they were making a piston or moe.
I'll still want the standard one though.

Nice Pic and Video Deamer.:thumbsup:

02-03-2009, 1:02 AM
M&P15-T owner here.

So far, it is has been a terrific rifle as long as you run the good ammo thru it.

XM193 / XM193c has been perfect in mine.

Wolf? No... nooooo... that poly-stuff glued my upper together in less than 20 rounds.

02-03-2009, 6:44 AM
Have a M&P15A and it has been 100% reliable for about 500 rounds (I did have an issue with the gun and it had to be returned to Smith, but it never did affect reliability). Ammo used so far has been Prvi M193, Prvi 55gr JSP, PMC 55g, S&B M193, and Black Hills 69g Match loads. Accuracy has been in the 2 MOA range with good ammo (surprisingly the Prvi JSP has shot better than the Black Hills match). The guns are TIGHT when brand new and it honestly surprised me that I didn't have any reliability issues during break in. Stock trigger is nicer than any Colt, FN, Bushmaster, or DPMS trigger I have used. Includes most of the goodies that give the guys at M4Carbine.net a hard on (Mil-Spec BCG, proper carrier key staking, extractor bushing, "F" front sight, ect), and is well respected by Pat Rogers for what its worth. They are well built carbines that should meet your needs quite well.

Going prices for them were about $1000-1200 pre-Obama and I've seen them in the $1400-1600 range post-Obama in Houston (PRK prices probably higher). Interestingly, the 5.45x39 version (M&P 15R) is selling in the $1200 range, but doesn't include rear sight or carrying handle.

While I'm more inclined to the full length A2/A4 rifle, I'm really liking this rifle.

Here is the obligatory photo: Modifications are Yankee Hill Compensator, LaRue Cataliver Mount, Trijicon Tri-Power Optic, and CAA Stock Saddle.


02-03-2009, 10:55 AM