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mecam
01-30-2009, 5:56 PM
H.R. 45 in PDF (http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h45ih.txt.pdf)

Summary from NRA. (http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4329)

Big Brother's New Target: Tracking Firearms

Friday, January 23, 2009

U.S. Representative Bobby Rush (D-Ill.) recently sponsored H.R. 45, also known as "Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act." The bill is, at its core and as its name implies, a licensing and registration scheme.

The measure calls for all handgun owners to submit to the federal government an application that shall include, among many other things: a photo; an address; a thumbprint; a completed, written firearm safety test; private mental health records; and a fee. And those are only some of the requirements to be licensed!

The bill would further require the attorney general to establish a database of every handgun sale, transfer, and owner's address in America. Moreover, the bill would make it illegal to own or possess a "qualifying firearm" -- defined as "any handgun; or any semiautomatic firearm that can accept any detachable ammunition feeding device…" [emphasis added] without one of the proposed licenses.

Additionally, the bill would make it illegal to transfer ownership of a "qualifying firearm" to anyone who is not a licensed gun dealer or collector (with very few exceptions), and would require "qualifying firearm" owners to report all transfers to the attorney general's database. It would also be illegal for a licensed gun owner to fail to record a gun loss or theft within 72 hours, or fail to report a change of address within 60 days. Further, if a minor obtains a firearm and injures someone with it, the owner of the firearm may face a multiple-year jail sentence.

H.R. 45 is essentially a reintroduction of H.R. 2666, which Rush introduced in 2007. H.R. 2666 contained much of the same language as H.R. 45, and was co-sponsored by several well-known anti-gun legislators--including Barack Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel. H.R. 45 currently has no co-sponsors.

Rest assured that NRA-ILA will continue to monitor this bill closely, and will keep you informed of any developments if they materialize.

To view the complete text of the bill, please click here.

RRangel
01-30-2009, 6:02 PM
Never heard of it.

sfpcservice
01-30-2009, 6:11 PM
I guess the next step is to wait and see if it survives committee.....


http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45

Librarian
01-30-2009, 6:38 PM
H.R. 45 in PDF (http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h45ih.txt.pdf)

Summary from NRA. (http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4329)

You're doing this just to be contrary, aren't you? :willy_nilly:

See sticky
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=149441

:dupe:

mecam
01-30-2009, 6:46 PM
H.R. 45 in PDF (http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h45ih.txt.pdf)

Summary from NRA. (http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4329)

You're doing this just to be contrary, aren't you? :willy_nilly:

See sticky
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=149441

:dupe:


Ahh, there it is. No wonder I couldn't find it, I was searching for H.R. 45. I just searched for hr45 and there are actually 6 threads already started.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/search.php?searchid=3505342

--:sleeping:

Librarian
01-30-2009, 8:05 PM
Ahh, there it is. No wonder I couldn't find it, I was searching for H.R. 45. I just searched for hr45 and there are actually 6 threads already started.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/search.php?searchid=3505342

--:sleeping:

Sometimes searching drives me nuts.

Spent some time in graduate school (really did study to be a librarian) considering the question of indexing and classification.

The expressive question is approximately, "if I were looking for something like this, what words would I use to try to find it?"

There's a very high correlation between index terms assigned in library catalogs and words in the title of the work. Computers are really wonderful for allowing many more terms, but they're so literal.

Google has 'worked around' this particular instance of a problem by simply throwing out punctuation characters not enclosed in quotation marks.

Libraries usually work around the problem by having a thesaurus containing the 'controlled vocabulary' allowed - thus the two huge volumes of the Library of Congress Classification System (http://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/lcc.html) you may have seen in libraries that use that system. (Just looked - the professional version is FORTY ONE VOLUMES!)

There's a story about a guy named Vannevar Bush, who proposed a wonderful information store he called a Memex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memex). (Amusingly, that wikipedia article refers to a criticism of the Memex from Michael Buckland, who was one of my profs in Library School at Berkeley). The real problem with the Memex was finding anything!

And so, also, is it here.

DarthSean
01-31-2009, 2:39 PM
The heavy restrictions on handguns doesn't seem to be very plausible post Heller, and the precedent of giving up medical confidentiality isn't likely to go over too well with certain elements of congress either. It's still going to be disturbing to watch it's progress untill it's defeated though.

6172crew
01-31-2009, 2:42 PM
Never heard of it.
:D I have a weird scene of humor, this made me LOL.

markw
01-31-2009, 4:10 PM
There's enough gun loving southern dems that this thing will die. It's the AW talk that concerns me.