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ZRX61
01-26-2009, 11:59 AM
.. in desperate need of a clean up. A Saturday morning would be better than a Sunday as it seems a lot more people go there on Sundays. This is in Rosamond just off the 14 Freeway.

Before:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/ZRX61/RattleSnakeRd/RattleSnakeRd-2005.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/ZRX61/RattleSnakeRd/RattleSnakeRd-2006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/ZRX61/RattleSnakeRd/RattleSnakeRd-2007.jpg

My first attempt:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/ZRX61/RattleSnakeRd/RSRd-4001.jpg


I can be there pretty much any Saturday morning with a rake etc...:cool:

LOW2000
01-26-2009, 9:33 PM
Good idea, good job, but way too far north for me. I applaud your efforts however.

juicy
01-26-2009, 9:38 PM
i was thinking about heading out there this saturday the 31st. whos with me? :D i have a pickup we can throw crap in.

stphnman20
01-26-2009, 10:36 PM
Dang I past by there when I got up to Willow..

And I need some brass....

Leave me some..lol

ZRX61
01-26-2009, 11:09 PM
i was thinking about heading out there this saturday the 31st. whos with me? :D i have a pickup we can throw crap in.
I'll be there, but first I have to drop my kid off for some kinda play rehersal at 11am. Look for a silver crewcab S10 ZR5.

Sawdust
01-27-2009, 8:02 AM
How do I get there?

I can make it Saturday *if* my wife doesn't have to work...

Sawdust

ZRX61
01-27-2009, 10:18 AM
3453'32.80"N
11811'6.69"W

Sawdust
01-27-2009, 11:26 AM
3453'32.80"N
11811'6.69"W

Cool, thanks. I was confused as I could not find any road with the name Rattlesnake...

Sawdust

Decoligny
01-27-2009, 11:43 AM
What time? It's about 10 minutes from me.

ZRX61
01-27-2009, 5:46 PM
What time? It's about 10 minutes from me.
I think I'll be there about 11.20, unless my kid goes over to her mothers earlier to get ready for the play thing.

mydogsmonkey
01-28-2009, 5:18 PM
definately a good idea, i was thinking the same thing, will definately try to make one in the coming weeks, probably in 2 seeks once i get my new gun

juicy
01-29-2009, 5:22 PM
what do you usually shoot out there zrx?

GammaRei
01-29-2009, 6:05 PM
Should stick a sign out there that says something along the lines of "Clean Up Your Mess".

- G

ZRX61
01-29-2009, 10:36 PM
what do you usually shoot out there zrx?

Mosins, Swede Mauser, Enfields & a Mossberg 590..& my kid shoots a Savage MkII 22

ZRX61
01-30-2009, 9:24 PM
Kid is now going over to her moms at 9am, so I'll be on site by 9.30 :)
I'm only bringing the Mosins this time (& rake & trash bags)

juicy
01-31-2009, 1:16 PM
i didnt make it out there, i was up till 4am, damn party :p what i ment by what do you shoot out there was.. do you shoot at fruit or bowling pins or what?:p

Decoligny
01-31-2009, 1:35 PM
Well it was me and ZRX61 out there today. We cleaned up a good sized area, raked up a whole lot of shotgun shell casings into piles.

Then we shot a little. We put a 1/4" steel plate about 10" x 16" about 165 feet out.

We shot 5 rounds a piece at it with one of his Mosin's. Punched 9 holes in the plate.

I then shot a 8 round magazine of 9mm from my Hi-Point C9. Made 6 dents, maybe 7 out of 8 shots. Pretty good for a pistol at over 50 yards.

I shot off about 50 rounds in the 9mm, but we spent the most time talking and cleaning up the area.

ZRX61
01-31-2009, 7:14 PM
I then shot a 8 round magazine of 9mm from my Hi-Point C9. Made 6 dents, maybe 7 out of 8 shots. Pretty good for a pistol at over 50 yards.

.. including the one that went thru the hole the Mosin made...:thumbsup:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/ZRX61/GunStuff/RRd002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/ZRX61/GunStuff/RRd003.jpg

smokingloon
01-31-2009, 11:12 PM
Holy F! What the hell is wrong with people leaving all that trash there.

Fate
01-31-2009, 11:15 PM
That landscape would make an indian cry. (Nice work on the beginnings of a cleanup though).

Hans Gruber
02-03-2009, 11:07 AM
Is this the place?

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=34%C2%B053'32.80%22N+118%C2%B011'6.69%22W&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=34.89269,-118.185425&spn=0.33229,0.836334&z=11&iwloc=addr

Seems close to civilization but since I've never been there just wanted to make sure. Maybe I'll take the wife up there one of these weekends, will take a rake/bags too to do my part of course.

Decoligny
02-03-2009, 1:34 PM
Yep. That is the place.

Sam Z
02-03-2009, 1:48 PM
Can a regular car make it up there? Or do you need a 4 wheel drive?

Decoligny
02-03-2009, 2:26 PM
I have driven out there in my wife's Pontiac Solstice. If you look above you will see me standing by my Buick Le Sabre.

So, no 4 Wheel Drive necessary.

http://o.aolcdn.com/commerce/images/pontiac_07solstice_angularfront_Regular.jpg

Sam Z
02-03-2009, 4:45 PM
Thanks Decoligny
It's quite a drive but I want to make it up there in the near future

juicy
02-03-2009, 11:08 PM
we should set up a shoot n sweep in the very near future, perhaps at the end of the month? say the 28th or march 1st. all so cal gunners invited. :cool2:

Fate
02-03-2009, 11:38 PM
How far out is the base of that hill?

Rover
02-06-2009, 2:30 AM
I have driven out there in my wife's Pontiac Solstice. If you look above you will see me standing by my Buick Le Sabre.

So, no 4 Wheel Drive necessary.


On that note, how about after it rains? We're going shooting somewhere this weekend, just haven't figured out where. Looks like you'd get o the 14 at Rosamond ave., then take the frontage road north along the 14, hang a let and you're there. If I could take the 2wd Benz instead of having to slam the suspension back together on the Rover that would make life way easier.

ZRX61
02-11-2009, 10:54 PM
People show up in all sorts of import cars so a Benz won't even notice the odd bump.I may be out there on Friday AM if I'm not working.

ZRX61
02-11-2009, 10:56 PM
How far out is the base of that hill?
Just measured it on google earth: from the firing line to the base of the rocks is 260yards

juicy
02-12-2009, 3:38 AM
On that note, how about after it rains? We're going shooting somewhere this weekend, just haven't figured out where. Looks like you'd get o the 14 at Rosamond ave., then take the frontage road north along the 14, hang a let and you're there. If I could take the 2wd Benz instead of having to slam the suspension back together on the Rover that would make life way easier.

im curious too. how is it after it rains? im thinking about heading up there this weekend. :cool2:

Decoligny
02-12-2009, 2:35 PM
im curious too. how is it after it rains? im thinking about heading up there this weekend. :cool2:

Haven't driven out there in the rain, but I live on a road not much different. Avoid the standing puddles. They tend to get real soft in the middle and might swallow a tire real deep. If you are in a truck it shouldn't be a problem.

professionalcoyotehunter
02-12-2009, 2:43 PM
I can meet you out thee this weekend if you like. I will bring my 8MM and My 30-06 and of course trash bags and a rake or 2. I dont have a truck though.:(

juicy
02-12-2009, 8:53 PM
the more the marrier, supposed to get a lot of rain of friday. i have a 4x4 truck with 35in mud tires :cool2: time for some fun, who else is going?

Decoligny
02-13-2009, 1:59 PM
the more the marrier, supposed to get a lot of rain of friday. i have a 4x4 truck with 35in mud tires :cool2: time for some fun, who else is going?

Just drove out there just after noon. Cold, windy, rainy. Shot off a few magazines of 9mm. Then the rain started to get too heavy.

Started to snow just as I left.

ZRX61
02-13-2009, 7:47 PM
Looking at a high of 49deg for Saturday, I won't be there..

juicy
02-16-2009, 11:54 PM
probably headed out there on thursday now :cool2:

ar15barrels
02-17-2009, 12:05 AM
Should stick a sign out there that says something along the lines of "Clean Up Your Mess".

I guarantee you that someone would hang a target on that sign and shoot it.

ar15barrels
02-17-2009, 12:06 AM
We put a 1/4" steel plate about 10" x 16" about 165 feet out.

We shot 5 rounds a piece at it with one of his Mosin's. Punched 9 holes in the plate.

Which one of you missed with a rifle at 55yds? :eek:

Decoligny
02-17-2009, 2:08 PM
Which one of you missed with a rifle at 55yds? :eek:

Probably me. I have always preferred, and been a better shot with, handguns.

I kind of like the Sam Elliot character in "We Were Soliders". He had his 1911 on his side and Mel Gibson's character said something like "You might want to grab an M-16." He pulled out his handgun and responded, "When I have the need for one of those, there will be plenty of them lying around on the ground!"

ZRX61
02-19-2009, 5:48 PM
Might have been me, the front sight falls into my "fuzzy vision" range.. & if I wear the glasses so I can see the front sight.... I can't see the target...
So I line up the rear site.. with the fuzzy thing at the other end of the gun.. & the target...
Altho it seems to be a Mosin thing. I can hit 12in plates at 400yards with my Enfields with no problem. Slight dif in barrel length moves the front sight into the *sharp, no longer fuzzy* range.

Decoligny
02-20-2009, 12:59 PM
Each of us taking credit for the misses. Kind of different from the usual, "It must have been him, cause I never would have missed, I am an expert shot and can hit a gnats backside at 2,000 meters with my eyes closed" type of back and forth I have seen others engage in.

juicy
02-27-2009, 8:51 PM
heading out tomorrow anyone gonna be out there?:cool2:

ZRX61
02-27-2009, 9:59 PM
Not this weekend, I'm going to APTS on Saturday morning with my kid.

ZRX61
02-27-2009, 10:00 PM
Each of us taking credit for the misses. Kind of different from the usual, "It must have been him, cause I never would have missed, I am an expert shot and can hit a gnats backside at 2,000 meters with my eyes closed" type of back and forth I have seen others engage in.

The sun was in my eyes, a bee landed on my nose & someone sounded an airhorn behind me.. :)

ZRX61
04-06-2009, 6:58 PM
Dropped by there last evening & some dillweed has stolen the "Rattlesnake Rd" road sign :(

TEX1966
04-10-2009, 9:18 PM
Set up another clean up and I will be there and hopefully can bring some freinds. PM me on the dates.

Seesm
04-10-2009, 10:18 PM
I did not read past the first 3 pictures... Ok anyone who leaves there sh*t out there... Come on people THIS is one of the reasons they shut us down at shooting areas.... Give a sh*t about your rights to shoot. Carry out what you carry in... bring some buckets and a shovel to pack out your stuff... Hell take a bit for the stupid people who leave there sh*t there...

Those pics made me mad at the dirtballs who leave there stuff.... Would you leave your yard all full of shells like that? :(

Tragic Image
04-11-2009, 6:32 PM
I did not read past the first 3 pictures... Ok anyone who leaves there sh*t out there... Come on people THIS is one of the reasons they shut us down at shooting areas.... Give a sh*t about your rights to shoot. Carry out what you carry in... bring some buckets and a shovel to pack out your stuff... Hell take a bit for the stupid people who leave there sh*t there...

Those pics made me mad at the dirtballs who leave there stuff.... Would you leave your yard all full of shells like that? :(


yep, I always take out what I take in.

some 5 gallon paint buckets, filled with dirt hold up some nice planks/targets for me when I shoot.... easy to dump the dirt out, toss the board and bucket in the back of the truck and be on my way

ZRX61
04-18-2009, 4:19 PM
I was out there yesterday for a while & the place looks a LOT cleaner... still looks like a landfill, just cleaner...

RossRinSD
04-19-2009, 8:50 AM
Great job on the clean-up effort. You guys don't bring your kids out and have them help? When my dad volunteered to help or do stuff like that, it really meant I was gonna be out there doing it while he yelled at me to go faster...:p

Seesm
04-21-2009, 2:18 PM
haha that is true and how it should be... very nice... EVERYONE bring your kiddles!!

professionalcoyotehunter
05-07-2009, 1:58 PM
When is the next meet out there? I have friend's kids who can be slaves for a day.

7222 Hawker
05-11-2009, 12:28 AM
Holy F! What the hell is wrong with people leaving all that trash there.

No kidding. We are suposed to be the model , not the example of what not to do!!

7222 Hawker
05-11-2009, 12:29 AM
I have always taught my sons, leave the campground cleaner than when you found it. Shooting range as well!

professionalcoyotehunter
05-12-2009, 12:44 PM
That is what I was taught as well !

ZRX61
05-12-2009, 6:08 PM
I won't be out there this week, altho I do have to pick up another Mosin which will require *testing* as soon as I have time..

professionalcoyotehunter
05-13-2009, 8:13 AM
Let us know.

SPUTTER
07-18-2009, 10:30 PM
Coyote, do you go out there only on Saturdays? I sometimes work the weekend, but I do have Saturdays from time to time. I'm also available during the week. Let me know.

neal0124
09-20-2009, 5:47 PM
Hey people. Is this a legal shooting area? I live in SCV and my friend and I have been looking for an open area to shoot, and scour the place for re-usable brass. Plus we both have trucks and know how to use rakes. I just don't want to go somewhere thinking its legal to shoot and end up getting popped for weapon charges, my buddy's taking the bar exam and can't have a record and I'm a commercial driver and would lose my job if I get a serious enough charge. Thanks for your help.

ZRX61
09-20-2009, 8:32 PM
The only people the Sheriffs give tickets to out there are the kids on dirt bikes....) usually because they ride thru the area where the Sheriffs are shooting ;)

BiggSean
09-21-2009, 6:15 AM
So is this confirmed BLM land? Just want to make sure.

ZRX61
09-21-2009, 10:02 AM
AFAIK it's privately owned land, & the owner drives a grader thru there about every 5 years to scrap all the crap up.

Decoligny
09-21-2009, 11:40 AM
It is private property. The local Sheriff Deputies are fully aware of the area and that it is used for shooting. The owner apparently has no problem with it being used as a range. It is however in our best interest to clean up after ourselves, as if it get TOO messed up, the owner might become less willing to let everyone use the land.

The local Deputies don't shoot there, they shoot at the gravel pit on the right side of Rattlesnake Road. The "Big Iron" mine.

ZRX61
09-21-2009, 1:16 PM
I've seen a couple of sheriffs shooting where everyone else does.

AJD
09-21-2009, 5:13 PM
I think the last time I was out there I saw the owner or someone driving his tracter/bulldozer through there. Everytime I've been out there I try to take as much trash as I can fit in my car.

Decoligny
09-21-2009, 8:02 PM
I've seen a couple of sheriffs shooting where everyone else does.

Probably on a Sunday. The pit is closed on Sundays.

Blk04SR
11-13-2009, 9:53 AM
anyone interested in doing a clean up soon?

Rover
12-23-2009, 1:56 AM
anyone interested in doing a clean up soon?

Yes. I was out there last weekend after not shooting out there for a while :eek: I wish Wally-World bulk ammo hulls were worth a nickel apiece, I'd be a millionaire. I brought my two gunny-sacks and after picking up my trash grabbed all I could, but you'd never know I'd attempted to clean anything.

Also, anybody know what the policy is on camping out there? My buddy and I were talking about heading out there late Friday night, camping, shooting in the morning and being back in town by noon to one rather than spending pretty much a whole Saturday going out there. Being private land (or so it seems) figured it may not be kosher.

Tragic Image
12-24-2009, 11:00 PM
I get depressed every time I go to that place.

So many idiots, so much trash, I just wish it was better.

Blk04SR
01-04-2010, 11:37 AM
Ill be out there at the end of the month or early the next month...I plan on shooting a bit and cleaning up as much as I can...

professionalcoyotehunter
01-04-2010, 11:46 AM
I can bring my truck to help you pack out trash if you want.

Blk04SR
01-04-2010, 12:34 PM
I can bring my truck to help you pack out trash if you want.

For sure, Ill be there in my truck too...ill post again a week before I go out there...maybe we can have a mini clean up and shoot day!

Tragic Image
01-04-2010, 12:35 PM
yea, lets see whats going on.

some one email me to let me know the day, I usually don't look for this thread


Nblewett at (gmail.com)

professionalcoyotehunter
01-04-2010, 12:40 PM
I sure will! I need to sight in my new toys I got for christmas!

Blk04SR
01-04-2010, 12:56 PM
you'll be seeing an email from me, ill PM you guys also...I need to just go shoot I haven't been in awhile. Plus I'm waiting for a stock to get done so it should be in a then next week or two and I'm ready to plink with it!

JeePerz
01-05-2010, 5:24 PM
Count me in!

Blk04SR
01-06-2010, 11:20 AM
This will be a shoot/clean up day...so far I have a list of people interested.

Saturday Jan 30th

-Tragic Image
-Professionalcoyotehunter (maybe if he has no hunting!!!)
-JeePerz

This list will be updated as time goes on.

Tragic Image
01-06-2010, 1:16 PM
yea, sounds good, just lemme know a day.

professionalcoyotehunter
01-06-2010, 1:19 PM
I am ready but Saturdays are tough for me since I take people hunting nearly every weekend.

Rover
01-14-2010, 5:25 PM
I'm about 85% certain that I'll be in San Diego for a buddy's going away to the Navy party on the 30th, but if plans change I'll be there with a rake and a few dozen trash-bags.

Gotta try and get some .44 boolits before then too.

Tragic Image
01-17-2010, 12:17 AM
I wonder how a clean up is going to go over with people shooting that day......


we'll see I guess.

Rover
01-17-2010, 12:50 AM
I wonder how a clean up is going to go over with people shooting that day......


we'll see I guess.

It seems like most of the trash is within 20 yards of the firing line, shouldn't be too hard to post up at one end and clean out to the piles of crap people shoot with pistols. Or, go clean one of the smaller areas off to the side if nobody's there, doesn't matter what section we clean, we won't get it all, but if we can make a dent then shoot some guns it's worth it.

Blk04SR
01-18-2010, 12:05 PM
It seems like most of the trash is within 20 yards of the firing line, shouldn't be too hard to post up at one end and clean out to the piles of crap people shoot with pistols. Or, go clean one of the smaller areas off to the side if nobody's there, doesn't matter what section we clean, we won't get it all, but if we can make a dent then shoot some guns it's worth it.

Ill be out there on the 30th to clean-up a bit and shoot a bit...pending weather!!!

If people show they show!

Tragic Image
01-18-2010, 12:09 PM
weather? whats that?

jjmat3
01-18-2010, 2:29 PM
I was out there a week ago Sunday and it was a zoo. The normal shooting area was full of people (no where to set up to shoot there) and a few other areas had people shooting too, made it tough to even go find a different spot nearby. Place was a mess too. Dang shame.

professionalcoyotehunter
01-18-2010, 2:31 PM
I cant go on the weekend of the 30th I am going hog hunting. I will make it out there again soon since I have 7 rifles I have to sight in. Every time I go I take a truck load of trash out of there.

jjmat3
01-20-2010, 7:10 PM
Ill be out there on the 30th to clean-up a bit and shoot a bit...pending weather!!!

If people show they show!

My current plan is to be there w/ my new to me Mini14 on the 30th or 31st. If the main area is packed like last time though, I'll be in my favorite hidden spot nearby.;)

antonio
01-20-2010, 9:29 PM
:( I can't believe people WOW

Blk04SR
01-21-2010, 4:05 PM
My current plan is to be there w/ my new to me Mini14 on the 30th or 31st. If the main area is packed like last time though, I'll be in my favorite hidden spot nearby.;)

Nice wanna take me there too?

I know of one spot near by but it got reclaimed damn DWP...

Tragic Image
01-22-2010, 9:15 PM
uhm.

what time is this supposed to happen?

jjmat3
01-23-2010, 7:07 AM
Nice wanna take me there too?

I know of one spot near by but it got reclaimed damn DWP...

Access to the spot isn't car friendly, we usually do a little 4x-ing to get to it and after the storms, i bet it will be worse.

subiegillis
01-28-2010, 2:52 PM
very interested thhink i might go what time are u guy meetin there ....tragic are u goin ?

Tragic Image
01-28-2010, 2:58 PM
if they decide to post a time.

Rover
02-03-2010, 10:03 PM
Going to head out there tomorrow to test some reloads. Should be leaving Thousand Oaks around 1-1:30, if you head out there I'll be in a green Land Rover, and impossible to miss, stop by and say hi.

Will take out what I can, have space for a few bags of trash in the truck. Anybody know of a friendly spot to dump the trash out that way? Don't want to sand-bag on some random restaurant's dumpster, and don't want to drive back to TO with a gunny-sack of shells in my passenger seat.

socalsniper
03-09-2010, 10:27 AM
is this blm land?

professionalcoyotehunter
03-09-2010, 10:30 AM
I will be out there this weekend. If my tooth heals by then.

mydogsmonkey
03-09-2010, 11:15 AM
is this blm land?

from what i heard no this is private property but the owner of the land graciously allows shooters to shoot on his property,

professionalcoyotehunter
03-09-2010, 11:18 AM
I would be pissed if it was my property since there is such a mess out there.

jjmat3
03-09-2010, 4:08 PM
If all goes as planned picking up a couple guns on Saturday, I will be shooting in the area on Sunday.

Blk04SR
03-10-2010, 4:25 PM
Access to the spot isn't car friendly, we usually do a little 4x-ing to get to it and after the storms, i bet it will be worse.

Who says I have a car ;-)

Sorry I have been out of the loop people. Long story short I got sick from people at work spreading there germs and have been very busy as there has been unseen things that have popped up keeping from doing anything...I dislike it but it will work out soon.

socalsniper
04-06-2010, 7:33 PM
I was out there on Saturday its a mess out there. not as bad as Lytle Creek back in the day when it was a free range im talking about 1992

Blk04SR
04-13-2010, 12:30 PM
I was out there on Saturday its a mess out there. not as bad as Lytle Creek back in the day when it was a free range im talking about 1992

As far as I have been going to Rattlesnake Road, it has been pretty bad but we can just try and make it better and clean what we can when we can.

aermotor
05-01-2010, 12:23 AM
Is this place still legit to shoot at? What's the latest status on the mess up there?

Rover
05-01-2010, 2:45 AM
Is this place still legit to shoot at? What's the latest status on the mess up there?

Heading out there tomorrow with a few friends, as far as I'm aware it's the same as it ever was.

damilfman
05-01-2010, 1:49 PM
Is this place still legit to shoot at? What's the latest status on the mess up there?

its still legit but people's sh&* they leave behind still remains

ZRX61
05-31-2010, 9:45 PM
I was out there today & couldn't believe how clean the place looks.. altho thats in relation to how it looked when it was REAL bad. There's a still a slew of casings on the ground (but a LOT less than there was recently) but most of the *targets* have disappeared.. only one shot to hell TV, no boats, only 1 pallet with paper targets stapled to it.
I'd say 90% of the trash/targets have gone & probably 80% of the shells/casings.

hmvan
06-28-2010, 6:06 PM
I was out there yesterday and some knuckleheads lit the hill on fire and bailed. We stayed and called it in, but I hope that this doesn't get this place shut down. It does need a good rake sometime soon.

damilfman
06-28-2010, 7:45 PM
I was out there yesterday and some knuckleheads lit the hill on fire and bailed. We stayed and called it in, but I hope that this doesn't get this place shut down. It does need a good rake sometime soon.

it shouldn't get shut down .... hopefully those a-holes will get busted.

mydogsmonkey
06-28-2010, 8:31 PM
I was out there yesterday and some knuckleheads lit the hill on fire and bailed. We stayed and called it in, but I hope that this doesn't get this place shut down. It does need a good rake sometime soon.

dang, i was out there friday, looked okay, still dirty, pretty messed up they're doing that

hmvan
06-29-2010, 7:22 AM
Best we could tell they were shooting steel core or some kind of incendiary, one shot and it ingnited. It was too quick for anything else.

jim293
08-31-2010, 1:09 PM
Good idea, good job, but way too far north for me. I applaud your efforts however.

Me as well. Great job thanks for picking up that junk.

rudeboy3
08-31-2010, 3:18 PM
I was out there yesterday and some knuckleheads lit the hill on fire and bailed. We stayed and called it in, but I hope that this doesn't get this place shut down. It does need a good rake sometime soon.

I was on duty when this went out...IIRC it stayed pretty small right