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EBR Works
01-20-2009, 7:18 PM
.......Here's mine...the Green Monster!

Century Champion (Draco) pistol in 7.62x39 converted by Freakshow Manufacturing (thanks Adam!) to single shot status. Legally transferred into Cali as single shot exempt. Legally converted after transfer to semi-auto. Prior owner had painted it with baked on molybdenum disulfide paint in flat olive green. Has Solar lock and 10/40 mag with VMG grip, UTG aluminum quad rail, a Beamshot 2000 green laser. The brake is the new PWS FSC47.

Not at all practical but very fun! :52:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/impactco/AKP.jpg

jacques
01-20-2009, 7:48 PM
That is truly evil. :43:

Good job:D

jumbopanda
01-20-2009, 9:10 PM
Posted it a couple of times before but here it is again:

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/8396/img0574mq3.jpg

EBR Works
01-20-2009, 9:20 PM
JP,

Nice! What is the barrel length on that? Mine is 11".

I want to add a sling swivel in the rear trunion as well. Any thoughts on how to retrofit one? Thanks.

jumbopanda
01-20-2009, 9:23 PM
JP,

Nice! What is the barrel length on that? Mine is 11".

I want to add a sling swivel in the rear trunion as well. Any thoughts on how to retrofit one? Thanks.

7"

I just took a sling loop off of a Romy G buttstock and attached it to the trunnion with machine screws. You'll have to drill and tap it.

EBR Works
01-20-2009, 9:31 PM
I just took a sling loop off of a Romy G buttstock and attached it to the trunnion with machine screws. You'll have to drill and tap it.

Great idea. Is the rear trunion hardened?

supermario
01-20-2009, 10:08 PM
Those are really nice AK's guys!

omniman
01-20-2009, 10:40 PM
.......Here's mine...the Green Monster!

Century Champion (Draco) pistol in 7.62x39 converted by Freakshow Manufacturing (thanks Adam!) to single shot status. Legally transferred into Cali as single shot exempt. Legally converted after transfer to semi-auto. Prior owner had painted it with baked on molybdenum disulfide paint in flat olive green. Has JP lock and 10/40 mag, UTG aluminum quad rail, a Beamshot 2000 green laser and Eotech 512/A65. The brake is the new PWS FSC47.

Not at all practical but very fun! :52:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/impactco/CopyofEGP1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/impactco/CopyofEGP2.jpg

Dude,

That is over the top, in a good way.!!!!

REALLY big magazine on a small weapon (very similar to myself ;-) !!)

Can't wait to see it up close !!

The AK pistol w/Laser/Eotech brings new meaning to "home defense", ...I pity the fool....:43:


You are my Sensei,

-Grasshopper

YoungGun2
01-21-2009, 2:01 PM
Son of a motherless goat!!!!!! That's like somthing out of a Video Game. And if you play to closes to the scren you might get hit......Nice !!!!

EBR Works
01-23-2009, 3:42 PM
I can't believe there are only two (2) Cali compliant AK pistols here!

soopafly
01-23-2009, 8:20 PM
.......Here's mine...the Green Monster!
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/impactco/1040.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h59/soopafly_photos/AK_COWBELL.jpg

.........j/k
One of these days I'll have to put one together myself...but with less cowbell:chris:




I can't believe there are only two (2) Cali compliant AK pistols here!
There are more members here with AK pistols, they probably just haven't seen this thread yet.

jacques
02-03-2009, 8:30 PM
Just picked mine up today. Lancaster on a NDS-3 receiver, JP lock, 10/40 mag, and bungie sling.
:party:

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/jacques102/Pistol/DSC01121.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/jacques102/Pistol/DSC01137.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/jacques102/Pistol/DSC01151.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/jacques102/Pistol/DSC01160.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/jacques102/Pistol/DSC01116.jpg

SanSacto
02-03-2009, 8:38 PM
That Lancaster made me wet my shorts!

PolishMike
02-03-2009, 8:49 PM
Keepin it simple

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh90/PolishMikeCG/IMG_1261.jpg

RossRinSD
02-03-2009, 9:13 PM
Very nice, ladies. One day I'll have mine, too.

EBR Works
02-03-2009, 9:18 PM
Just picked mine up today. Lancaster on a NDS-3 receiver, JP lock, 10/40 mag, and bungie sling.
:party:


Beautiful! :thumbsup:

jumbopanda
02-03-2009, 9:30 PM
Great idea. Is the rear trunion hardened?

Factory trunnions are, after market pistol trunnions probably aren't. I used a factory trunnion, cut off the tang, and put a single 1/4" rivet through the remaining buttstock screw hole to attach a steel block, which was drilled and tapped. A steel plate is sandwiched between the sling loop and the trunnion to cover the rear of the gun.

SanSacto
02-03-2009, 9:35 PM
I want to buy one straight up! Send it to Freakshow for a single shot conversion then here to Cali! Where can I find one?

EBR Works
02-03-2009, 10:10 PM
I want to buy one straight up! Send it to Freakshow for a single shot conversion then here to Cali! Where can I find one?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SearchResults.asp?SearchType=0&Keywords=AK+pistol&CountryCode=++

EBR Works
02-03-2009, 10:14 PM
Factory trunnions are, after market pistol trunnions probably aren't. I used a factory trunnion, cut off the tang, and put a single 1/4" rivet through the remaining buttstock screw hole to attach a steel block, which was drilled and tapped. A steel plate is sandwiched between the sling loop and the trunnion to cover the rear of the gun.

Mine has a factory trunion so drilling it will be tough I guess.

jacques
02-03-2009, 10:32 PM
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SearchResults.asp?SearchType=0&Keywords=AK+pistol&CountryCode=++

Do you think the prices on these will drop when the panic buying is over?

vandal
02-03-2009, 10:47 PM
California and Federally compliant AOW.

I had my C&R ATF inspection after I tried to volreg this gun, and CADOJ had tipped ATF that I was <gasp>building guns</gasp>. Thank goodness for interagency cooperation keeping us all safe. Inspection went fine, no problem from ATF on building this, much to the frustration of CADOJ I'm sure.

Yugo M92 kit built up from a flat as a single-shot, converted to semi, and AOW'ed.

If you thought the TangoDown VFG was already expensive, try adding $200 to the price tag.

First pic showing the gun with the ATF NFA Tax Stamp paperwork, 10/20 magazine:
http://contentproviders.com/dwimages/krinkaow.jpg

Second pic, same gun in its latest furniture (ATF NFA Tax Stamp above still applies):
California and Federally compliant AOW. (Sorry for the repeat but last time there was such an excrement storm.)
http://contentproviders.com/dwimages/aow.jpg

EBR Works
02-04-2009, 6:19 AM
California and Federally compliant AOW.

I had my C&R ATF inspection after I tried to volreg this gun, and CADOJ had tipped ATF that I was <gasp>building guns</gasp>. Thank goodness for interagency cooperation keeping us all safe. Inspection went fine, no problem from ATF on building this, much to the frustration of CADOJ I'm sure.

Yugo M92 kit built up from a flat as a single-shot, converted to semi, and AOW'ed.

If you thought the TangoDown VFG was already expensive, try adding $200 to the price tag.

First pic showing the gun with the ATF NFA Tax Stamp paperwork, 10/20 magazine:

Second pic, same gun in its latest furniture (ATF NFA Tax Stamp above still applies):
California and Federally compliant AOW. (Sorry for the repeat but last time there was such an excrement storm.)


Nice! Maybe this year I'll go the NFA trust route and AOW mine as well. What optic is on the weapon in Pic #2?

vandal
02-04-2009, 7:38 AM
Aimpoint Micro

Nice! Maybe this year I'll go the NFA trust route and AOW mine as well. What optic is on the weapon in Pic #2?

pacrimguru
02-10-2009, 1:03 AM
so, i'm looking to get an ak pistol.

1) can someone give me a quick run through on what the difference between a krinkov, draco, and other ak pistols are?
2) is installing a rear sling swivel as easy as drill and tapping or is there a whole other piece that needs to be installed?
3) i read you guys talking about a trinnion... what is that?

thanks for any info you can provide!

SanSacto
02-10-2009, 1:09 AM
so, i'm looking to get an ak pistol.

1) can someone give me a quick run through on what the difference between a krinkov, draco, and other ak pistols are?
2) is installing a rear sling swivel as easy as drill and tapping or is there a whole other piece that needs to be installed?
3) i read you guys talking about a trinnion... what is that?

thanks for any info you can provide!

1) Krinkovs are Russian. Dracos are Romanian.

2) I believe the rear sling swivel is already mounted on AK pistol trunnions.

3) A trunnion is a metal block riveted inside the receiver in order to mount a buttstock in the rear and the barrel in the front.

pacrimguru
02-10-2009, 2:00 AM
sweet, thanks for the info!

EBR Works
02-10-2009, 6:49 AM
The Draco does not have a sling swivel on the rear trunion since this is a factory made pistol with it's original Romanian receiver and trunions. Per JumboPanda, the factory rear trunion is hardened, so drilling it might be a challenge. Aftermarket rear pistol trunions for custom builds may have sling swivel opening already.

pacrimguru
02-10-2009, 7:05 AM
can i simply swap out rear trunions or is there some crazy modification involved?

EBR Works
02-10-2009, 7:15 AM
You have to remove and replace rivets.

pacrimguru
02-10-2009, 7:29 AM
oh, that's easy. cool, thanks for the info. gunbroker here i come! love your green monster by the way.

pottymouth310
02-10-2009, 2:41 PM
ohhh ho ho, here it comes!

EBR Works
02-10-2009, 3:12 PM
ho ho

http://lanehog.com/images/hoho.jpg

pottymouth310
02-10-2009, 7:25 PM
Niiice!!! sexy time!

mvpatriot
02-10-2009, 7:36 PM
I went the easy route and built my AR pistola first, but I plan on building my ak clone pistol soon. Maybe sooner than later after reading this damn thread.
:D

thedrickel
02-10-2009, 7:40 PM
Very nice gentleman - One day my group buy will come thru -

Soon, man, soon. I'm working on them almost every day.

veterosa
02-13-2009, 8:28 PM
.......Here's mine...the Green Monster!

Century Champion (Draco) pistol in 7.62x39 converted by Freakshow Manufacturing (thanks Adam!) to single shot status. Legally transferred into Cali as single shot exempt. Legally converted after transfer to semi-auto. Prior owner had painted it with baked on molybdenum disulfide paint in flat olive green. Has JP lock and 10/40 mag, UTG aluminum quad rail, a Beamshot 2000 green laser. The brake is the new PWS FSC47.

Not at all practical but very fun! :52:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/impactco/1040.jpg

Niz. Pm sent.

AK4me
02-13-2009, 8:59 PM
Those AKs look sweet, I cant wait to get one.

glockfu
02-13-2009, 9:38 PM
Just picked mine up today. Lancaster on a NDS-3 receiver, JP lock, 10/40 mag, and bungie sling.
:party:

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/jacques102/Pistol/DSC01121.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/jacques102/Pistol/DSC01137.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/jacques102/Pistol/DSC01151.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/jacques102/Pistol/DSC01160.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/jacques102/Pistol/DSC01116.jpg


The wood on that is awesome! Did you replace it? Did it come like that? How much? Where can I get it?

jacques
02-13-2009, 10:11 PM
It came like that. I don't know where you would get it. There must be somewhere though. Maybe straight from Lancaster.

pacrimguru
03-06-2009, 11:20 PM
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/pacrimguru/AK-47%20Pistol/P1120879.jpg

redneckshootist
03-06-2009, 11:28 PM
Heres mine with a load of cash under it:D
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z240/redneckshootist/akblue023.jpg

pacrimguru
03-06-2009, 11:29 PM
A/C repair pays well, i see! ;)

oaklander
03-06-2009, 11:33 PM
"Registered"

http://i38.tinypic.com/1zg5z9.jpg

Combatchase
03-28-2009, 10:06 PM
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/pacrimguru/AK-47%20Pistol/P1120879.jpg

Sweet AK!

PS - I'm wearing that shirt! Thanks!

wallew
03-31-2009, 1:08 PM
Heres mine with a load of cash under it :D

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z240/redneckshootist/akblue023.jpg


RNS,
You've got a couple of problems with that pix.

First, you've got a pistol that will accept a front handguard, an ATF no-no. Get that AMD65 forend grip welded up and you will be legal.

Second, all those $100 bills each have a strip in them that can be read by a reader. FROM THE STREET. I've seen them in action.

The ONLY bill that doesn't have that strip is the $1 bill. Good luck.

The amount of $100 bills there will trip ANY reader cruising your neighborhood. That leads to the raid that finds the AK.

TKB. Get things straight. You don't need a visit in the middle of the night.

ke6guj
03-31-2009, 1:18 PM
RNS,
You've got a couple of problems with that pix.

First, you've got a pistol that will accept a front handguard, an ATF no-no. Get that AMD65 forend grip welded up and you will be legal.
.

what are you talking about, a handguard to keep you from burning your hand, or a forward vertical grip?

There is no federal AW ban anymore, so a handguard is not an issue anymober.


I am not aware of any constructive possession issues with AOWs. It either is an AOW or isn't. If the capability of accepting a VFG is an issue, then every railed AR-pistol, or pic-railed Glock would be an ATF no-no.

skem2008
03-31-2009, 1:29 PM
Please explain this reader that can detect the bills from outside.
I have never heard of this before.

redneckshootist
03-31-2009, 1:44 PM
RNS,
You've got a couple of problems with that pix.

First, you've got a pistol that will accept a front handguard, an ATF no-no. Get that AMD65 forend grip welded up and you will be legal.

Second, all those $100 bills each have a strip in them that can be read by a reader. FROM THE STREET. I've seen them in action.

The ONLY bill that doesn't have that strip is the $1 bill. Good luck.

The amount of $100 bills there will trip ANY reader cruising your neighborhood. That leads to the raid that finds the AK.

TKB. Get things straight. You don't need a visit in the middle of the night.

I did a job for a customer, installed a few new A/C's. In my advertizements I say "discounts for paying cash or check". this particular customer missunderstood and only saw the cash part so when the job was done she paid cash. $27,000. Went home took a pic just for the hell of it then went to the bank and deposited it in the company account.
That dont matter though, how will just having a bunch of legit $100s be enough cause to search my home.

As far as the ak pistol, do you have a cite in the law that shows how its illegal?

Atari
03-31-2009, 2:13 PM
RNS,
Second, all those $100 bills each have a strip in them that can be read by a reader. FROM THE STREET. I've seen them in action.

The ONLY bill that doesn't have that strip is the $1 bill. Good luck.

The amount of $100 bills there will trip ANY reader cruising your neighborhood. That leads to the raid that finds the AK.


From the street, huh? :TFH:

You must have been on one high profile ride-along.

If what you suggest is true (that a relatively small stack of $100's, or even $5's according to you...) would trip the tin-foil-hatometer mounted in a 'reading cruiser' and this would somehow lead to a "raid" on the household... well, let's just say that I would LOVE to be party in that lawsuit.

It would be like winning the lotto. :thumbsup:

Fwiw, I've heard they have close proximity readers in airports - which would make sense.

Palmaris
04-07-2009, 9:14 PM
Why you guys call it AK pistol? AK stand for Automat Kalashnikova (mashine gun Kalashnikov).
In USSR time everybody who went to university is taking miltary education and will not be graduated from university untill military education and field training completed and graduated with rank. Former rank major lieutenant, military speciality maintenance and repair of firearms, including AKs, Makarov,TT, RPGs etc. I would never got through, if ones I will call AK pistol :43:

crob241
05-31-2009, 7:54 PM
This was done for a customer in Arizona, 24k gold with white mother of pearl furniture, 2 stick and a drum mag. It is owned by a well known, middle aged owner of a firearm business that has a AK collection second to none, not a "gang banger" and has had me gold or nickel plate many of them, several for gifts to friendshttp://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg242/crobert241/akpistol001jpg.jpg

professorhard
05-31-2009, 8:03 PM
lol pimp gun

EBR Works
06-02-2009, 5:57 PM
This was done for a customer in Arizona, 24k gold with white mother of pearl furniture, 2 stick and a drum mag.

I would expect to see that available here:

http://shop.gangstaname.com/gangsta

PolishMike
06-02-2009, 6:50 PM
RNS,
You've got a couple of problems with that pix.

First, you've got a pistol that will accept a front handguard, an ATF no-no. Get that AMD65 forend grip welded up and you will be legal.

Second, all those $100 bills each have a strip in them that can be read by a reader. FROM THE STREET. I've seen them in action.

The ONLY bill that doesn't have that strip is the $1 bill. Good luck.

The amount of $100 bills there will trip ANY reader cruising your neighborhood. That leads to the raid that finds the AK.

TKB. Get things straight. You don't need a visit in the middle of the night.

You, Sir, are way too paranoid for your own good.

jacques
06-02-2009, 7:47 PM
Why you guys call it AK pistol? AK stand for Automat Kalashnikova (mashine gun Kalashnikov).
In USSR time everybody who went to university is taking miltary education and will not be graduated from university untill military education and field training completed and graduated with rank. Former rank major lieutenant, military speciality maintenance and repair of firearms, including AKs, Makarov,TT, RPGs etc. I would never got through, if ones I will call AK pistol :43:

These are like necro posts.

Palmaris, it sounds like you could be some help for people having problems with their AK's on here. :thumbsup:

I bet you would have some interesting stories to tell about your time in the military.

Palmaris
06-02-2009, 8:05 PM
These are like necro posts.

Palmaris, it sounds like you could be some help for people having problems with their AK's on here. :thumbsup:

I bet you would have some interesting stories to tell about your time in the military.

I probably would be able to help with something on AKs and Makarovs, even I was taken education 20 years ago, still remember some stuff.
As it goes being in military-well, I have been only on field tranning for 3 month, and most our education was in classes in university. From field classes I just remember a lot of VODKA, really a lot, non stop day and night:thumbsup: and a lot of shooting in desert full auto AKs 47 and 74 with tracer rounds.:thumbsup:

jacques
06-02-2009, 9:11 PM
LOL.

That sounds like fun.

I probably would be able to help with something on AKs and Makarovs, even I was taken education 20 years ago, still remember some stuff.
As it goes being in military-well, I have been only on field tranning for 3 month, and most our education was in classes in university. From field classes I just remember a lot of VODKA, really a lot, non stop day and night:thumbsup: and a lot of shooting in desert full auto AKs 47 and 74 with tracer rounds.:thumbsup:

ro442173
06-02-2009, 9:32 PM
Damnit, now I got something else to buy.

CSACANNONEER
06-02-2009, 9:40 PM
I hope to be able to post pictures of mine soon. I just have to build it first.


Palmaris,

Do you live in California? If you live in southern California, you are more than welcome to attend my AK build party June 20-21. I'll even go buy a bottle of Vodka for you if you come!

Q
06-02-2009, 10:33 PM
I've been wanting one ever since Goldeneye.:cool:
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n32/qbertquartz2/Vlcsnap-252680.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n32/qbertquartz2/bakelite.jpg



Updated with a new set of furniture. The original set is going to be saved. The upper wood was donated to me for this project, it's from a 545 so there is a groove. The lower wood is from Arsenal that is now discontinued or unavailable from what I've heard.
I wanted to make my pistol futuristic like this. :D
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n32/qbertquartz2/500px-IRobotSubGun.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n32/qbertquartz2/DSC00888.jpg


A few specs on this custom built pistol.
Imported Arsenal 7.62x39 parts kit built by the firing lane on a MLS99 receiver.

Rick530
06-07-2009, 3:50 PM
http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii379/Rickb530/akpistolincase.jpg

69Mach1
06-18-2009, 8:05 PM
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/DSC04414.jpg

This won't stay a pistol for very long. I'll be converting it to a rifle, a Romanian Krinkov clone. :)

NSR500
06-19-2009, 2:30 PM
Would one of you Draco owners mind posting up a shot of your piston? I want to know if it is a custom length, or if there is an off the shelf piston.

TZL
06-19-2009, 2:40 PM
what kind of muzzle velocity are you getting on 7.62 x 39 on a <11" barrel?

thedrickel
06-19-2009, 2:56 PM
Would one of you Draco owners mind posting up a shot of your piston? I want to know if it is a custom length, or if there is an off the shelf piston.

It's a custom length. DAMHIK.

NSR500
06-19-2009, 3:47 PM
It's a custom length. DAMHIK.

Is an AMD65 piston shorter than the Draco?

thedrickel
06-19-2009, 3:49 PM
Yep, the AMD is too short, by about half an inch.

EBR Works
06-19-2009, 3:49 PM
Would one of you Draco owners mind posting up a shot of your piston? I want to know if it is a custom length, or if there is an off the shelf piston.

Here you go:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/impactco/Dracopiston.jpg

NSR500
06-19-2009, 3:52 PM
Thanks to you both!

Kicking around the idea of a special build since I pick up 2 NDS-3's tomorrow out of the 10 day jail.

lokmeup
06-19-2009, 7:30 PM
This is my favorite AK pistol build.... only needs a bullet button and a 10/30 or 10/20 mag!

http://762x39.net/AKPistol/amdpistol1a.jpg

GoodEyeSniper
06-19-2009, 9:13 PM
I think you all should have an Open Carry AK pistol day....

I'm sure that would go over well.

ZRT650
06-20-2009, 1:02 PM
I think you all should have an Open Carry AK pistol day....

I'm sure that would go over well.

lol that would be great. people would **** bricks.

EBR Works
06-20-2009, 4:44 PM
I think you all should have an Open Carry AK pistol day....

I'm sure that would go over well.

You guys go first. I'll video tape the excitement!

supermario
07-07-2009, 12:16 AM
This is my favorite AK pistol build.... only needs a bullet button and a 10/30 or 10/20 mag!

http://762x39.net/AKPistol/amdpistol1a.jpg

Wow thats soo cool, Is that a Saiga handguard?

Fred Foobar
09-15-2009, 8:30 PM
Crappy cell phone pic of my Draco pistol.
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww208/Fred_Foobar/IMAG0046.jpg

Sure, I should buy a real camera. I'd rather be spending it on guns (and ammo)! :p

CSACANNONEER
09-15-2009, 9:19 PM
I just realized that I never posted a pic of mine in this thread so,

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p43/csacannoneer/002-1.jpg

EBR Works
09-15-2009, 10:00 PM
Very nice!

djleisure
09-17-2009, 1:04 PM
I have a Draco on the way and I was wondering what the process is to replace the muzzle-nut with a flash hider or comp.

Here are a few questions:
1. Is the muzzle-nut just tack-welded on there? Can I use my dremel to untack it, then just unscrew it to remove it?
2. What type of muzzle devices or thread pitch do I need to look for when I buy the replacement? (will any AK muzzle device work?)
3. Is it even legal for me to do this modification myself, or am I temporarily creating an AW when I expose the threads on the muzzle?

Any help would be appreciated! Oh and of course I'll post pics after it arrives!
Thanks!

69Mach1
09-17-2009, 1:12 PM
I have a Draco on the way and I was wondering what the process is to replace the muzzle-nut with a flash hider or comp.

Here are a few questions:
1. Is the muzzle-nut just tack-welded on there? Can I use my dremel to untack it, then just unscrew it to remove it?
2. What type of muzzle devices or thread pitch do I need to look for when I buy the replacement? (will any AK muzzle device work?)
3. Is it even legal for me to do this modification myself, or am I temporarily creating an AW when I expose the threads on the muzzle?

Any help would be appreciated! Oh and of course I'll post pics after it arrives!
Thanks!

I believe it's just a tac-weld. You can remove it yourself. Pistols are not subject to 922r/925D. It's threaded 14x1 left hand, like your standard AK 47 type muzzle thread. It maybe a bit longer though. Obviously the AK pistol is an AW without a maglock and 10 rounder. After it's been Californicated, threaded barrels is not a problem.

djleisure
09-17-2009, 1:25 PM
After it's been Californicated, threaded barrels is not a problem.

Excellent - thanks for all the good info! I really thought threaded barrels on pistols were a no-no in CA, even after the DROS process. Huh, maybe I *will* continue my search for an HK SOCOM Mk. 23 then... cool. :cool:

Rukus
09-17-2009, 10:47 PM
Excellent - thanks for all the good info! I really thought threaded barrels on pistols were a no-no in CA, even after the DROS process. Huh, maybe I *will* continue my search for an HK SOCOM Mk. 23 then... cool. :cool:
They are, but for AK pistols you need a maglock. The maglock basically negates all the "evil features". A HK Socom Mk. 23 cannot have the threaded barrel installed. You can have the threaded barrel in your posession, it just cant be used while in state.

djleisure
09-22-2009, 2:32 PM
They are, but for AK pistols you need a maglock. The maglock basically negates all the "evil features". A HK Socom Mk. 23 cannot have the threaded barrel installed. You can have the threaded barrel in your posession, it just cant be used while in state.

Ahhh - okay, that makes sense - thanks for clearing that up!

djleisure
10-04-2009, 11:13 AM
Finally, some pics and info to add to this thread!

Just got this one home last night and went to town on it. I don't have the means to drill out the rear trunnion for a sling attachment, so I made mine up with some black webbing I had laying around. It will work for now.

Draco AK pistol
Hogue FDE AK grip
Midwest Industries FDE handguard
Troy single-point sling on my own, made-up, nylon webbing sling mount
Tapco slotted muzzle brake

Enjoy!

http://www.slice.net/draco/03.JPG

http://www.slice.net/draco/02.JPG

http://www.slice.net/draco/01.JPG

http://www.slice.net/draco/05.JPG

http://www.slice.net/draco/04.JPG

Rukus
10-15-2009, 9:23 PM
I need to pick up the slack on the camera skills but heres my Draco...

Specs:
-Tapco Galil Handguard in FDE
-Tapco SAW Pistol Grip in FDE
-Tapco 10/30 Mag
-Krink Brake

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/beedubae/PA100409.jpg

djleisure
10-16-2009, 11:15 AM
Nice one, Rukus!

I added the KAC finger stop to mine - updated pics.

http://www.slice.net/draco/10.jpg

http://www.slice.net/draco/11.jpg

http://www.slice.net/draco/12.jpg

Mstnpete
10-20-2009, 11:33 PM
[QUOTE=qbertquartz2;2574460]I've been wanting one ever since Goldeneye.:cool:

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n32/qbertquartz2/bakelite.jpg



Updated with a new set of furniture. The original set is going to be saved. The upper wood was donated to me for this project, it's from a 545 so there is a groove. The lower wood is from Arsenal that is now discontinued or unavailable from what I've heard.


The pistol looks amazing! I was wondering what stain color is that?
And how does the 4 piece flash hider work for you?
TIA.

Mstnpete
10-25-2009, 4:21 PM
[QUOTE=jacques;1987918]Just picked mine up today. Lancaster on a NDS-3 receiver, JP lock, 10/40 mag, and bungie sling.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/jacques102/Pistol/DSC01121.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/jacques102/Pistol/DSC01137.jpg

Your AK Pistol looks sharp! Did you drill a hole to mount a sling mount or did you install a Pistol trunnion with cutout for Uncle Mike's sling swivel?

duraglock
10-27-2009, 6:25 PM
heres a amd pistol.
http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu65/mcad33/DSC02758.jpg
AMD KIT
AK-BUILDER FLAT,PISTOL TRUNION
SOLAR TACTICAL AK47 BULLET BUTTON, SELECTOR LEVER/BOLT HOLD OPEN, 10/30 BULGY MAG
MAGPUL FLAT DARK EARTH WITH EXTRA BLACK DURACOAT FINISH
TAPCO SAW GRIP
KVAR FOREND,BRAKE
ULTIMAK RAIL
TASCO OPTIMA

Exposed
10-27-2009, 6:39 PM
Right here! I also need to work on my picture taking skills.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/steppenwolf_321/IMG_2328.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/steppenwolf_321/IMG_2326.jpg

troysland
10-28-2009, 8:46 AM
Looking good, Exposed!

EBR Works
10-28-2009, 8:47 AM
Right here! I also need to work on my picture taking skills.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/steppenwolf_321/IMG_2328.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/steppenwolf_321/IMG_2326.jpg

Nice! What sling do you have?

troysland
10-28-2009, 8:56 AM
He's got a Troy single-point sling, helped him out with installation. We used djleisure's idea, with his help, using nylon webbing between the ErgoGrip and receiver.

EBR Works
10-28-2009, 8:58 AM
Thanks. Gotta get that for mine.

Mstnpete
10-29-2009, 6:50 AM
He's got a Troy single-point sling, helped him out with installation. We used djleisure's idea, with his help, using nylon webbing between the ErgoGrip and receiver.

Did you just saw on an extra nylon right after the clip cover?

djleisure
10-29-2009, 9:11 AM
Did you just saw on an extra nylon right after the clip cover?
I'm not sure how he did his, but I just used a piece of nylon webbing that was already sewn back on itself. You can see it pretty clearly in this pic here. Hope this helps!

http://www.slice.net/draco/04.JPG

Mstnpete
10-29-2009, 9:16 AM
Thanks Djleisure!

That makes it alot easier because I was thinking of drilling a hole at the rear and installing a sling mount. How do you like the finish. It seems like they parkerized our Draco pistols. When I saw mine I wanted to re-finish it.

stix213
10-29-2009, 12:32 PM
Nice one, Rukus!

I added the KAC finger stop to mine - updated pics.

http://www.slice.net/draco/10.jpg

http://www.slice.net/draco/11.jpg

http://www.slice.net/draco/12.jpg

I love the tacticool furniture on this thing. The one I'm planning on getting I hope to get to look a lot like this one.

Gio
10-30-2009, 7:18 PM
Draco shown here with a Bulgarian Poly (mag body only)

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2507.jpg

Draco shown with Romanian Mag Blocked 10/30

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2505.jpg

I cannot wait to go try it out tomorrow, hopefully at Chabot :chris:

-Gio

AM9000
11-03-2009, 8:30 PM
http://www.the9000.com/draco.jpg
My Draco.


Polish bulged type hand guards
Krink cone brake
Romanian Bakealite grip
Solar Tactical lock

Thanks Gio for the background idea.

69Mach1
11-03-2009, 8:49 PM
http://www.the9000.com/draco.jpg
My Draco.


Polish bulged type hand guards
Krink cone brake
Romanian Bakealite grip
Solar Tactical lock

Thanks Gio for the background idea.

Wow, you're moving fast into the AK world. Nice piece!

Gio
11-03-2009, 8:55 PM
Cool thanks 69Mach1

Thanks :o

-Gio

69Mach1
11-03-2009, 8:57 PM
Since the Draco is my first AK owned so far I guess it would be n00bish to ask this. Do Single Shot Conversion Pistols fall under the 922r compliance rules? Just wondering, I also need a helping hand from someone with a Dremel so that I can take off the tack weld and slap on a muzle break of sorts depending on the answer to my question.

Once the answer is given I will delete it, so do not quote it. Thanks :o

-Gio

922r (compliance) only relates to long guns.

Gio
11-03-2009, 10:17 PM
Nice, all I need now is a person with a Dremel or I guess I can attempt to take a slim file I have and file it down until it fits ;)

-Gio

AM9000
11-04-2009, 6:11 AM
Wow, you're moving fast into the AK world. Nice piece!

Yep. My Girlfriend had an "intervention" when I brought this home. Didn't have the heart to tell her about my Romanian non-g side folder I have on dros. I guess that's what the ten day wait is for?

Gio
11-04-2009, 7:33 AM
Yep. My Girlfriend had an "intervention" when I brought this home. Didn't have the heart to tell her about my Romanian non-g side folder I have on dros. I guess that's what the ten day wait is for?

Nice, I wish I could say I can't wait to see her face when that one comes home as well :43:

-Gio

Gio
11-06-2009, 10:49 AM
Here is my Draco after a few modifications.

Removed Tapco G2 Trigger and Hammer Set, removed tack weld and barrel nut.

Added Romy AKM Trigger and Hammer Set, AKM Slant Brake, Nylon loop plus Magpul MS2 as well :43:

I have not fired it yet, might go to Chabot for a little session today. If not I will be shooting it and my other toys tomorrow at the Zombie Shoot :53:

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2544.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2545.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2546.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2547.jpg
(Mag is blocked to 10/30 and is sealed with epoxy as well.)

-Gio

hoppin62
11-07-2009, 2:17 PM
My newborns! :43: (10/30's of course :cool:)

http://i37.tinypic.com/rbea2t.jpg

hoppin62
11-07-2009, 2:22 PM
Finally, some pics and info to add to this thread!

Just got this one home last night and went to town on it. I don't have the means to drill out the rear trunnion for a sling attachment, so I made mine up with some black webbing I had laying around. It will work for now.

Draco AK pistol
Hogue FDE AK grip
Midwest Industries FDE handguard
Troy single-point sling on my own, made-up, nylon webbing sling mount
Tapco slotted muzzle brake

Enjoy!

http://www.slice.net/draco/03.JPG

http://www.slice.net/draco/02.JPG

http://www.slice.net/draco/01.JPG

http://www.slice.net/draco/05.JPG

http://www.slice.net/draco/04.JPG

I like this muzzle brake :cool:

hkdad
11-07-2009, 8:14 PM
Here is my Draco after a few modifications.

Removed Tapco G2 Trigger and Hammer Set, removed tack weld and barrel nut.

Added Romy AKM Trigger and Hammer Set, AKM Slant Brake, Nylon loop plus Magpul MS2 as well :43:

I have not fired it yet, might go to Chabot for a little session today. If not I will be shooting it and my other toys tomorrow at the Zombie Shoot :53:

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2544.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2545.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2546.jpg

[-Gio

awesome GIO! can't wait to get mine.....:D

hoppin62
11-07-2009, 8:28 PM
My newborns! :43: (10/30's of course :cool:)

http://i37.tinypic.com/rbea2t.jpg

Anybody know where I can find a wood hanguard set for this AK? Will the Krink handguard fit?

djleisure
11-09-2009, 10:17 AM
I like this muzzle brake :cool:
Thanks! Tapco Slotted AK brake - only $12 ;)

Mstnpete
11-16-2009, 3:08 PM
Romanian Draco AK-47 Pistol

Here's what she looked like when I got her!

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f245/amgguy/IMG_0056-1.jpg

Gio
11-16-2009, 3:14 PM
Niiiice :D I want to do some kind of finish on my HG and also get a new PG as well.

-Gio

Mstnpete
11-16-2009, 3:27 PM
Thanks Gio!

Gio
11-18-2009, 11:29 PM
Well here is a before and after staining. For some reason my bottom piece came really light, will add some more stain to it tomorrow I guess. But here it is for now,

No Stain
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2544.jpg

2 Coats on Top 4 Coats on Bottom
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2558.jpg

All I want now is a Romanian PG to better match my setup ;)

-Gio

MR.R
11-19-2009, 5:02 AM
very nice gio! i have 2 kits i need to get together, hopfully soon

Mstnpete
11-19-2009, 6:02 AM
Gio,

Check your PM.

Q
11-19-2009, 2:39 PM
The pistol looks amazing! I was wondering what stain color is that?
And how does the 4 piece flash hider work for you?
TIA.

Thanks, I updated my original post with a little more info.
The orange set is the original Bulgarian stain. There are no replacements for these so that's another reason why I put the black set on. I also like the flash light lower and there's no replacement for that one either..:D I didn't notice any flash even at night. Very effective FH, probably the best there is for this design.

Gio
11-19-2009, 2:57 PM
very nice gio! i have 2 kits i need to get together, hopfully soon

Gio,

Check your PM.

Thanks guys, sent PM back to you.

-Gio

Mstnpete
11-19-2009, 6:28 PM
Thanks, I updated my original post with a little more info.
The orange set is the original Bulgarian stain. There are no replacements for these so that's another reason why I put the black set on. I also like the flash light lower and there's no replacement for that one either..:D I didn't notice any flash even at night. Very effective FH, probably the best there is for this design.

If you need wood hand guards for your 9' barrel. Like what's on your pistol.
Ironwood Design makes them. Good to know about the Bulgarian FH.
I have decided to place that on my Draco as well. :)

Q
11-19-2009, 6:43 PM
Nice, I think you will notice less concussion also.:D

Thanks, seen those, Ironwooddesign does make excellent stuff.
Looks like kvar has the 762 handguards in stock. :)
http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?productid=16890&cat=297&page=3

Mstnpete
11-19-2009, 6:50 PM
Yupp those hand guards are nice! I wanted to get one for the Draco but Ironwood didn't make the same design for the Dracos only for other styles.
That's what I've heard and read. The Bulgarian 4 piece also acts like a compensator which lessens the muzzle rise.

hkdad
12-03-2009, 11:34 PM
polish bakelite PG, bulgarian bakelite HG, AK-builder slant brake, 10/30 blocked bulgarian magazine.

http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/669195/20091204/012653.jpg (http://www.dropshots.com/bnitsche#date/2009-12-04/01:26:53)

Gio
12-03-2009, 11:36 PM
polish bakelite PG, bulgarian bakelite HG, AK-builder slant brake, 10/30 blocked bulgarian magazine.



That is clean :D

-Gio

sytfu_RR
12-08-2009, 9:38 AM
some very nice builds!

Gio
12-15-2009, 12:44 PM
Well I added a Romanian PG, think it looks a little nicer then the black Tapco one ;)

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2588.jpg

-Gio

247Nino
12-15-2009, 2:44 PM
Well I added a Romanian PG, think it looks a little nicer then the black Tapco one ;)

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2588.jpg

-Gio

nice Gio~!

let mek now when you head to Sunnyvale again! lemmmme shoot dat!

GunPhonatic
12-20-2009, 3:56 PM
Draco
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa63/jphong1981/Akp1.jpg

veterosa
01-03-2010, 11:21 AM
Received from Gary last year from Overland Industries tweek it a little by adding rear swivel, bolt glass beaded, G2 tapco & refinished with Matt black. Hungarian blonde HG & Chinese blonde PG, Bulgarian cone muzzle, 10/30 mag & JP maglock.

69Mach1
01-03-2010, 11:23 AM
Received from Gary last year from Overland Industries tweek it a little by adding rear swivel, bolt glass beaded, G2 tapco & refinished with Matt black. Hungarian blonde HG & Chinese blonde PG, Bulgarian cone muzzle, 10/30 mag & JP maglock.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=41809&d=1262549776

Thanks for letting me shoot her.

veterosa
01-03-2010, 11:29 AM
Thanks for letting me shoot her.

You're welcome.:D:D:D

lil Max
01-06-2010, 12:05 PM
I agree ... nice set up. Did you ever find out where he got it?

The wood on that is awesome! Did you replace it? Did it come like that? How much? Where can I get it?

lil Max
01-06-2010, 12:07 PM
Nice! Where can I get a sling like yours? :D

Well I added a Romanian PG, think it looks a little nicer then the black Tapco one ;)

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2588.jpg

-Gio

djleisure
01-06-2010, 4:18 PM
Nice! Where can I get a sling like yours? :D
That's a Magpul MS2 sling, I believe - works in 2-point and 1-point modes.

lil Max
01-07-2010, 6:51 AM
That's a Magpul MS2 sling, I believe - works in 2-point and 1-point modes.

Nice. Thanks for the info!

lil Max
01-07-2010, 7:02 AM
He's got a Troy single-point sling, helped him out with installation. We used djleisure's idea, with his help, using nylon webbing between the ErgoGrip and receiver.

Bear with me, but where did you get the nylon webbing?

lil Max
01-07-2010, 7:05 AM
Finally, some pics and info to add to this thread!

Just got this one home last night and went to town on it. I don't have the means to drill out the rear trunnion for a sling attachment, so I made mine up with some black webbing I had laying around. It will work for now.

Draco AK pistol
Hogue FDE AK grip
Midwest Industries FDE handguard
Troy single-point sling on my own, made-up, nylon webbing sling mount
Tapco slotted muzzle brake

Enjoy!

http://www.slice.net/draco/03.JPG

http://www.slice.net/draco/02.JPG

http://www.slice.net/draco/01.JPG

http://www.slice.net/draco/05.JPG

http://www.slice.net/draco/04.JPG

Nice! :D

bplvr
01-20-2010, 8:06 PM
Do the muzzle brakes/or cones have to be tack welded on a Draco ?

Gio
01-20-2010, 8:13 PM
Do the muzzle brakes/or cones have to be tack welded on a Draco ?

Nope, since it is a mag locked handgun it can have threads w/o having to welded on :D They do however come with a welded on barrel nut, but once you receive it a simple hack saw or dremel will remove the tack weld ;)

-Gio

asgalindez
01-25-2010, 5:55 PM
My Draco AK pistol with PWS JTac47 muzzle brake.
http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww300/asgalindez/MISC/01252010036.jpg

I drilled into the side of the receiver to attach a sling swivel for the 2 point sling.
http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww300/asgalindez/MISC/01252010037.jpg

Grumpyoldretiredcop
01-27-2010, 5:22 PM
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/grumpyoldretiredcop/Draco/DracoPistol1.jpg

Hogue grip, CNCWarrior A2 style flash hider, generic railed top cover from CDNN Investments, Trijicon Reflex sight. At some point, I'll drill through the rear trunnion to mount a sling swivel, then add a single point sling.

sirnonz
02-01-2010, 2:35 PM
here mine.

http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL651/3657621/9958854/382121926.jpg

Gio
02-01-2010, 2:38 PM
Nice Simon! So how does it shoot? :laugh:

-Gio

sirnonz
02-01-2010, 2:49 PM
if only i had time to shoot it, haha.

djleisure
02-01-2010, 3:09 PM
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j51/sytfu_RR/build1/AkBuildPart5021.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j51/sytfu_RR/build1/AkBuildPart5023.jpg

AMD-65 Parts Kit
Solar Tactical:
-Maglock
-Flat
-Rivet Kit
-0 Round Mag
-Muzzle Comp
-Extended Safety Latch
-Rear Pistol Trunnion w/QD Swivel Sling Mount
Hogue Rubber Grip
Tapco Red Front Sight Post
BlackJack Recoil Buffer

End Result of two CG BP's. Thanks to all who've helped along the way.:cool:
very clean. very nice.

Bellehood
02-01-2010, 3:22 PM
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j51/sytfu_RR/build1/AkBuildPart5021.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j51/sytfu_RR/build1/AkBuildPart5023.jpg

AMD-65 Parts Kit
Solar Tactical:
-Maglock
-Flat
-Rivet Kit
-0 Round Mag
-Muzzle Comp
-Extended Safety Latch
-Rear Pistol Trunnion w/QD Swivel Sling Mount
Hogue Rubber Grip
Tapco Red Front Sight Post
BlackJack Recoil Buffer

End Result of two CG BP's. Thanks to all who've helped along the way.:cool:


this is probably the best looking AK pistol I have ever seen :)

Gio
02-01-2010, 3:25 PM
if only i had time to shoot it, haha.

sooon. :D

Let me know when you guys decide to go I will take my Draco out with you guys as well.

-Gio

Python2
02-01-2010, 5:18 PM
AMD-65 Parts Kit
Solar Tactical:
-Maglock
-Flat
-Rivet Kit
-0 Round Mag

End Result of two CG BP's. Thanks to all who've helped along the way.:cool:

Does it have to be 0-round mag. Can it not be 1-round mag. You cant load a second round anyway without removing the mag. Isnt the reason why its non detachable?

thedrickel
02-01-2010, 5:24 PM
Does it have to be 0-round mag. Can it not be 1-round mag. You cant load a second round anyway without removing the mag. Isnt the reason why its non detachable?

Then you could have one in the chamber, insert your mag w/ 1 loaded round, and the gun would be 2-shot, not single shot.

Python2
02-01-2010, 6:43 PM
Then you could have one in the chamber, insert your mag w/ 1 loaded round, and the gun would be 2-shot, not single shot.


Darn you are right:eek:, I did'nt think about loaded chamber before inserting the mag. Oh well, back in the garage and re-do the mag sled:(

Full Clip
02-01-2010, 7:29 PM
Mine is in 10-day jail! Can't wait!

Vinz
02-01-2010, 10:41 PM
heres mine, blondes have more fun but....
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=44785&stc=1&d=1265096252
red heads get it done!!! Next is 3 coats of tint varnish.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=44786&stc=1&d=1265096261

and my new SHTF case.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=44787&stc=1&d=1265096430


Gio, where ya guys going??
vinz

wksun88
02-02-2010, 9:35 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=44864&stc=1&d=1265176584
mine, don't mind the foot and PJs

TURBOELKY
02-02-2010, 10:15 PM
I need a new camera

timdps
02-04-2010, 5:25 PM
Before and after photos :D

Romy wood, slant brake and grip. Romy grip is a bit fatter and more comfy than the grip that comes on the gun.

Just need to work out a rear mounting point for the web sling.

Tim

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/223/draco1.th.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/draco1.jpg/)


Got the Draco out to the range last Thursday. Here is the first 25 yard target. Took a while to figure out a good grip and a sling will definitely help. Hogue grips are on the way....
Front sight needs to be drifted a bit to the right, but the hole in my SKS sight tool was a little too small for the Draco sight pin. I guess I will be drilling out the hole in the sight tool.

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/4271/dracotarget.th.jpg (http://img688.imageshack.us/i/dracotarget.jpg/)

Here is the "covert" UTG case:

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6537/dracocase.th.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/dracocase.jpg/)

Gio
02-04-2010, 5:40 PM
Nice Tim, we need to do a Draco Pistol Day at Chabot. I have a few friends that have them now, it would be so cool to see like 6 people all lined up with Draco's :D

-Gio

timdps
02-04-2010, 5:54 PM
Nice Tim, we need to do a Draco Pistol Day at Chabot. I have a few friends that have them now, it would be so cool to see like 6 people all lined up with Draco's :D

-Gio

Would be fun, but I don't get down there very often. I'm further north and usually shoot at Circle S.

Tim

Vinz
02-06-2010, 6:48 PM
Finally got the V1 sling plate made up. came out great, I think I might need it closer to the body.


http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45308&d=1265514352


what do you guys think? closer or leave it that way?
Put the Hogue on, what a difference. I don't know how i shot without it.
another idea is to make a shim to take some of the angle out of the pistol grip, I can almost hold it out with one hand easily.
Vinz

Grumpyoldretiredcop
02-09-2010, 2:41 PM
what do you guys think? closer or leave it that way?

I'd say leave it that way. Planning on making any more? That looks a lot cleaner than drilling into the rear trunnion.

Vinz
02-09-2010, 3:41 PM
I'd say leave it that way. Planning on making any more? That looks a lot cleaner than drilling into the rear trunnion.

thanks for the feed back, I just could get myself to drill into the reciever.

I will be doing a few (20-30) of these, I know a few of my AK friends are interested. The more I do the cheaper they will be. I will figure a price as soon as I get the CNC time and what type of blackening to go with, Duracoat or chemical.
Give me a couple days.
I will keep you in mind.

vinz

NoahH
02-09-2010, 3:54 PM
Do you need a special tool to attach a muzzle break or will a crescent wrench work?

djleisure
02-09-2010, 3:58 PM
Do you need a special tool to attach a muzzle break or will a crescent wrench work?
From the factory they come with a muzzle nut tack-welded to FSB. You will need a Dremel and a grinding/cutting bit and about two minutes OR you will need some kind of triangle file and a LOT of elbow grease to saw through that weld. Once you break the weld, you just need to depress the little detent pin and spin the nut off in a CLOCKWISE (opposite of our threads) direction. Then you can just thread on just about any AK-47 style muzzle device - you shouldn't even need a wrench of any kind, because the detent pin holds the muzzle device in place.

NoahH
02-09-2010, 6:10 PM
From the factory they come with a muzzle nut tack-welded to FSB. You will need a Dremel and a grinding/cutting bit and about two minutes OR you will need some kind of triangle file and a LOT of elbow grease to saw through that weld. Once you break the weld, you just need to depress the little detent pin and spin the nut off in a CLOCKWISE (opposite of our threads) direction. Then you can just thread on just about any AK-47 style muzzle device - you shouldn't even need a wrench of any kind, because the detent pin holds the muzzle device in place.

Got it, thanks.

NoahH
02-10-2010, 8:57 PM
45752


Finally got this thing put together, thanks to djleisure for the motivation/help!

Draco from the HDI group buy, Hogue grip, midwest industries handguards, 10/30 mag.

Vinz
02-10-2010, 11:18 PM
very nice,


that hogue kicks asss don't it.


vinz

djleisure
02-11-2010, 9:30 AM
45752


Finally got this thing put together, thanks to djleisure for the motivation/help!

Draco from the HDI group buy, Hogue grip, midwest industries handguards, 10/30 mag.

Nice! I like it! .... I wonder why? :D

Picture thread!

http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af189/dj_leisure/Draco_AK.jpg

thedrickel
02-12-2010, 9:50 AM
Alright, enough of this Draco bull****.

http://i45.tinypic.com/rrjl0x.jpg

Bonus points if you can identify the napkin ;)

Gio
02-12-2010, 3:18 PM
Because you love Draco's ;)

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2699.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2700.jpg

That is right, I am using the Sling Plate from Vinz. Feels sturdy and it looks like it will be able to withstand some abuse. Fit and finish is good, no modifying was need in order to use it. I can't wait to test it out at the range and out on BLM Land :D

-Gio

EBR Works
02-12-2010, 5:18 PM
That is right, I am using the Sling Plate from Vinz.


Where can I get one of these?

Vinz
02-12-2010, 5:23 PM
I have a bunch coming up soon, just waiting on field reports and complete design changes the testing might expose.

As soon as I narrow down a coating decision then its off to find a dealer.
I will add to the post as soon as they are available.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45933&d=1266027806

picture thread
thanks,
Vinz

EBR Works
02-12-2010, 5:33 PM
Cool! I will want one.

TZL
02-13-2010, 10:23 AM
i want a sling mount too, keep me posted !

I have a bunch coming up soon, just waiting on field reports and complete design changes the testing might expose.

As soon as I narrow down a coating decision then its off to find a dealer.
I will add to the post as soon as they are available.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45933&d=1266027806

picture thread
thanks,
Vinz

n2k
02-14-2010, 11:24 AM
Alright, enough of this Draco bull****.

http://i45.tinypic.com/rrjl0x.jpg

Bonus points if you can identify the napkin ;)

Cat out of bag: :)

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=3805821&postcount=150

JayBeeJay
02-15-2010, 9:18 PM
nice draco's can't wait to get one!

redneckshootist
02-16-2010, 5:03 AM
Alright, enough of this Draco bull****.

http://i45.tinypic.com/rrjl0x.jpg

Bonus points if you can identify the napkin ;)

well lets see......
amd65 pistol
yugo krink
bulgy krink

Milipitas dinner napkin(got one just like it;) )

what ya gonna give me now?:D

Full Clip
02-16-2010, 7:44 AM
Just got my Draco:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-3/981624/Draco.gif.jpg
Basic black. Just added a slant brake, K-Var handguards and an Arsenal RPK-style grip.
Thanks to Henderson Defense, Independent Armament and Shooters-Edge.

djleisure
02-16-2010, 9:38 AM
^^^Nice lookin' Draco! I really like that pistol grip with the K-Var handguards - very slick!

joefrank64k
02-16-2010, 9:43 AM
Many thanks to djleisure for the Draco inspiration...this thing was a BLAST to shoot!!! We were consistently hitting my LaRue Sniper target at 85 yds w/ the irons. Awesome, it wasn't the "novelty" gun that I thought it was going to be, but was a pleasure to shoot...easily the most fun we had that day.

Can't wait to get a red dot mounted!!!

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt139/joefrank64k/e5e8393e.jpg

(Borrowed from my other thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=270095)

sirnonz
02-16-2010, 10:58 AM
let me know on the 1pt sling vin!

Full Clip
02-16-2010, 2:09 PM
^^^Nice lookin' Draco! I really like that pistol grip with the K-Var handguards - very slick!

Thanks. I just wanted to keep it simple, and the RPK grip is much more comfortable than a standard AK grip, which is just too small for me.
We'll see if the recoil demands that I switch to a Hogue.

Vinz
02-16-2010, 8:53 PM
I will never go back after using the Hogue, just love it.
Real nice grip.
nice Draco F-C
Vinz

joefrank64k
02-16-2010, 9:42 PM
I will never go back after using the Hogue, just love it.
Real nice grip.
nice Draco F-C
Vinz

I second that motion...I could shoot that Draco all day long with the Hogue!

Full Clip
02-16-2010, 9:54 PM
I will never go back after using the Hogue, just love it.
Real nice grip.


Yeah, I have one on my Mossberg Cruiser. Really tamed it.

Vinz
02-17-2010, 12:38 AM
Yeah, I have one on my Mossberg Cruiser. Really tamed it.

you'll love it.


I want to put a Trijicon MS04 on it. so when is LaRue coming out with his updated red dot mount? or am I gonna have to make that too?? :chris:

I second that motion...I could shoot that Draco all day long with the Hogue!
yep, im gonna try shooting 2 at the same time. LOL
vinz

Gio
02-17-2010, 12:58 PM
My Draco pic taken by Nino, check out his work at ninomedia.net

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/_NIN6565.jpg

-Gio

OofieXD
02-17-2010, 3:15 PM
Nice AK's! I don't have much time right now, but can anyone school me on how to get/build one of these AK pistols? I'm in San Diego if that helps.

Vinz
02-17-2010, 8:44 PM
My Draco pic taken by Nino, check out his work at ninomedia.net

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/_NIN6565.jpg

-Gio

dude, we need some action shots homie.







Nice AK's! I don't have much time right now, but can anyone school me on how to get/build one of these AK pistols? I'm in San Diego if that helps.
1 right now at Quentin lazer,
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=270611

Henderson is starting another preorder soon.

vinz

JamesY
02-24-2010, 9:12 PM
If I see another Draco, I'm going to throw up.

Buck naked:
http://i45.tinypic.com/zu3142.jpg

All dressed up:
http://i48.tinypic.com/2elbkfr.jpg

I'll post pics of my next one. I'll bet there are only a handful of them floating around :D

MrNiceGuy
02-24-2010, 10:12 PM
SICK

duraglock
02-27-2010, 8:26 AM
Nice to see it built.

ZombieFerox
02-27-2010, 8:41 AM
My Lancaster Blonde

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s333/zombieferox/pistolak1.jpg

thedrickel
02-27-2010, 1:59 PM
If I see another Draco, I'm going to throw up.

Buck naked:
http://i45.tinypic.com/zu3142.jpg

All dressed up:
http://i48.tinypic.com/2elbkfr.jpg

I'll post pics of my next one. I'll bet there are only a handful of them floating around :D

That's what I'm talkin bout!

1064chubbs
02-27-2010, 2:21 PM
finally I can play:D
http://i47.tinypic.com/t0orip.jpg
Draco with aftermarket furniture, 10/30 mag and Tapco slant break.

1064chubbs
03-01-2010, 5:06 PM
My Lancaster Blonde

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s333/zombieferox/pistolak1.jpg

Thats a beautiful Ak I wanted to get that color wood on mine but couldn't find it and I didn't feel like doing it myself.

AK4me
03-01-2010, 5:12 PM
man those pistols look sweet, Ill be posting mine here later this month after I build it:chris:

Hoolpe
03-04-2010, 10:17 AM
finally I can play:D
http://i47.tinypic.com/t0orip.jpg
Draco with aftermarket furniture, 10/30 mag and Tapco slant break.

Who makes that furniture? I really like it.

timdps
03-04-2010, 4:47 PM
Final pics (unless I decide to tacticool one of them).

Old school underfolder simulations (without stocks)
Slings are old Russian web slings.

With zero cap mags
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/337/2dracos.th.jpg (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/2dracos.jpg/)

Dueling Set!
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/2498/dueldracos.th.jpg (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/dueldracos.jpg/)


Tim

1064chubbs
03-05-2010, 7:17 AM
Who makes that furniture? I really like it.

The furniture I got it from here although they are sold out of most wood furniture http://www.rusmilitary.com/html/c-deact_furniture.htm but I dont remember how much the total was cause I got it a few years ago and their prices are in Euros although I remember the shipping being really expensive and it takes a bit to actually be delivered

Swift Justice
03-05-2010, 8:49 AM
My Draco with a 10/30 mag, Tapco quad rail handguard and AK74 style muzzle brake:
Yes, that is a pic of my Draco on a pillow. No, I don't sleep with a Draco under my pillow. I sleep with a pillow under my Draco! :stuart:
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg304/steves67mini/Gun%20Stuff/DSCN0663.jpg

arfan66
03-05-2010, 8:46 PM
My pistol build from an 80% reciever flat & Romy G kit.
I built it in my garage using this tutorial: http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/notes/notesak/akpistolbuild/pageakpistolbuild.shtml
Modified Romy G furniture, stained with Minwax Red Oak & sealed w/semi gloss clear polyurethane
Tapco G2 single hook trigger
Tapco muzzle brake
SolarTactical maglock
Duracoat Colt Gray finish (looks like it belongs on a Russian T-72 tank)

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/sloansteady/0305102135-00.jpg

247Nino
03-10-2010, 1:58 PM
My pistol build from an 80% reciever flat & Romy G kit.
I built it in my garage using this tutorial: http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/notes/notesak/akpistolbuild/pageakpistolbuild.shtml
Modified Romy G furniture, stained with Minwax Red Oak & sealed w/semi gloss clear polyurethane
Tapco G2 single hook trigger
Tapco muzzle brake
SolarTactical maglock
Duracoat Colt Gray finish (looks like it belongs on a Russian T-72 tank)

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/sloansteady/0305102135-00.jpg


Mine will be this length!
You did not have to change out the FCG or Brake. 922(r) does not apply to pistols, unless you did it because your kit didnt come with original parts.

I like it! put a 10/20 in there!

arfan66
03-10-2010, 8:13 PM
247 - The kit was incomplete. The muzzle, throat and slant brake were pretty corroded which is why I decided to buld the kit into a pistol.

I agree, a 10/20 would be compact and easier to change than the ten rd. magazine. I have a 10/30 mag & the thing definitely looks evil.

GoodEyeSniper
03-11-2010, 8:50 AM
Are these more recent builds? I'm still confused as to how to go about doing one of these legally. I know the thread that Oaklander started has some out of date information on voluntary registration, etc...

If anyone has information for me I'd love to hear exactly how you went about this, PMs are okay.

I can see these things being cop bait at a public range, and would definitely need all bases covered.

arfan66
03-11-2010, 3:47 PM
GoodEyeSniper,

- You can build a pistol receiver, from a flat at an AK build party as long as you have a 0 rd. sled (must begin life as a single shot pistol). It is advisable to etch/mark the receiver as a pistol and a unique serial number (but is not required unless you intend to sell it in the future).

- It needs to have some sort of mag lock since the magazine is outside of the pistol grip.

- You can only use 10 rd. magazines in order remain leagal in Ca.

- Transport in a vehicle just as you would any other pistol, in a lockable case and unloaded.

I'm sure someone will chime in and correct any misinformation I may be disseminating ;).

Jeff

stormy_clothing
03-11-2010, 7:16 PM
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/2298/20100311200537.jpg

Just waiting for a couple of mounts, used some painters tape to check the usability of the light, laser, and red dot

Draco pistol, with CSS selector, Promag 10 rounder, Radlock, PWS ak muzzle break, BSA stealth optic with light and laser reconfigured and uncle mikes single point sling mount and black hawk single point sling.

I have the CSS ambi charging handle and gas cover but for the pistol it doesnt work for righties as well as using it on a rifle

timdps
03-12-2010, 6:49 PM
Even more eviler...

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4092/dracobipod.th.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/dracobipod.jpg/)

Here is the bipod. It fits quite nicely.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=160495866

I will need to shorten it a couple of inches to clear the mag when its folded, but otherwise its good to go.

Tim

stormy_clothing
03-23-2010, 9:07 PM
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/518/20100323195947.jpg

AK4me
03-24-2010, 10:08 PM
Heres mine, built it last weekend. AMD65 pistol. 10/30 mag
http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/AK4me/AMDpistol003.jpg

vintagedude88
03-27-2010, 2:46 PM
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/518/20100323195947.jpg

That optic is too big and heavy for that set-up. Most guys who are using the Ultimak rail are using a Micro red dot for that set-up. The advantage to that is that you can co-witness the irons. Also, if you're gonna be mounting all those other accessories, light & laser, you really should get a tri-rail for the lower handguard. It makes for a sturdier and tidier set-up for accessories.

I currently have the Tapco quad like the one on the previous page with a green laser mounted on top. Personally, I don't plan on shooting anything past 50yds with this thing. Its strictly a CQB weapon IMHO.

timdps
03-31-2010, 10:23 PM
Got the bipod shortened and the bipod feet rears chopped off and rewelded. Still need to blast and park the feet. Almost done...

As far as folding it back it works fine. The legs stay open wide when it rotates back and only come together when they are parallel to the barrel. There is no interference with the 30 round mag. There is also no interference inserting or removing the mag, although if I had made it the original planned length, there might have been a problem.

Tim

With 10/30 mag:
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2286/30bipodup.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/i/30bipodup.jpg/)

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8166/30down.th.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/i/30down.jpg/)


With 10 round mag:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4270/draco10bipodup.th.jpg (http://img145.imageshack.us/i/draco10bipodup.jpg/)

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6131/draco10.th.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/draco10.jpg/)

Z ME FLY
04-01-2010, 4:37 PM
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm279/zmefly0130/040110172919.jpg

AMD65 Pistol with Krink Brake 10/30 mag

veterosa
04-01-2010, 8:32 PM
Niz build Z

247Nino
04-02-2010, 10:07 AM
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/2298/20100311200537.jpg

Just waiting for a couple of mounts, used some painters tape to check the usability of the light, laser, and red dot

Draco pistol, with CSS selector, Promag 10 rounder, Radlock, PWS ak muzzle break, BSA stealth optic with light and laser reconfigured and uncle mikes single point sling mount and black hawk single point sling.

I have the CSS ambi charging handle and gas cover but for the pistol it doesnt work for righties as well as using it on a rifle

this looks best! keep the tape on

w210838
04-02-2010, 12:19 PM
Here is mine ,I used a sks sling mount and riveted to the rear trunnion,did at an angle so when you carry it the mag rolls into the body and doesn't stick out :) and hit stuff.What you guys think?

Gio
04-02-2010, 12:23 PM
I say it looks great, I hear it took a lot of time to do it that way :laugh:

-Gio

w210838
04-02-2010, 12:25 PM
Yes it did GIO!!!

w210838
04-02-2010, 12:26 PM
Hey guys go GIOS route for rear sling mount unless your hell bent on taking out the rear trunnion and drilling a hole through that super thick wall!!:)

Gio
04-02-2010, 12:33 PM
Hey guys go GIOS route for rear sling mount unless your hell bent on taking out the rear trunnion and drilling a hole through that super thick wall!!:)

:laugh: Sorry it took so long to get the VM1's in, but sometimes other people are the cause. Vinz did all the work and the coater guy took his sweet sweet time getting them back to us. Oh well we have 100 more coming in hopefully sooner then later.

Here is a simple pic of mine,

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2769.jpg

-Gio

Swift Justice
04-10-2010, 1:23 PM
My Draco's first range report.
Took it out yesterday to Sac Valley and it was beautiful spring day, with a little wind. My son and I spent most of the time sighting in a new AR build I had done and an SU-16 I picked up. For the curious, we both agreed the AR ws the nicest but the SU wasn't a slouch either. My son thought it was very light and handy and the ability to fold was a big plus.

Anyway, we didn't have much time to shoot the Draco before the range was closing, only going through about 60 rounds of old Chinese made ammo (that looks copper cased?) that I bought off I guy at work who had bought it for an SKS but then sold the gun and for some reason kept the ammo. He sold it to me at a steal and its been sitting in the safe for at least seven years or so.

Couldn't wipe the silly smile off of either of our faces. The range officer came over to see what the noise was all about and he saw it was a Draco and started laughing - he knew how much fun they were. We only had enough time to shoot it at about 7 yds and I was surprised at how tight the groups were. Not much louder then a .45 and didn't see much of a fireball - only a few sparks now and then.

Observations:
1. The Tapco forend furniture held up well, but the sliding cover on the bottom rail kept wanting to work itself off, so I just took it off. If I decide to keep it on I'll have to figure a way to fix it in place.
2. Cleaning rod worked itself loose during firing. Don't know if that happens with the stock furniture or if its because of the Tapco hardware.
3. No FTF's or FTE's during our session - just pure rock and roll.

The obligatory pics and video (sorry for the cellphone quality - regular camera's batteries died before we could take these):

Me and the Draco:
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg304/steves67mini/Gun%20Stuff/Photo_040910_002-Copy.jpg

My Son:

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg304/steves67mini/Gun%20Stuff/Photo_040910_005-Copy.jpg

Time to reload. Oh how I wish this was a free state so I could use my 30 rd mags and no mag lock!

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg304/steves67mini/Gun%20Stuff/Photo_040910_004-Copy.jpg

The last three rounds of the day:
44zFKWLCDa4

Z ME FLY
04-12-2010, 2:22 PM
Here are some new pictures of my amd pistol. I worn down the park to give it that just picked up off the street look.

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm279/zmefly0130/P1020088.jpg

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm279/zmefly0130/P1020087.jpg

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm279/zmefly0130/P1020086.jpg

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm279/zmefly0130/P1020085.jpg

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm279/zmefly0130/P1020084.jpg

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm279/zmefly0130/P1020083.jpg

Hoolpe
04-13-2010, 10:30 AM
[
Observations:
1. The Tapco forend furniture held up well, but the sliding cover on the bottom rail kept wanting to work itself off, so I just took it off. If I decide to keep it on I'll have to figure a way to fix it in place.
2. Cleaning rod worked itself loose during firing. Don't know if that happens with the stock furniture or if its because of the Tapco hardware.
3. No FTF's or FTE's during our session - just pure rock and roll.
):
[/QUOTE]


I have a Draco from Henderson and I had the same problems too. The dust cover would fly off after every shot. It looks like the bolt rubs up against it when firing. Does anyone else have the same problem? What did you do to fix it? Thanks.

69Mach1
04-13-2010, 7:24 PM
Here are some new pictures of my amd pistol. I worn down the park to give it that just picked up off the street look.

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm279/zmefly0130/P1020088.jpg

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm279/zmefly0130/P1020087.jpg

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm279/zmefly0130/P1020086.jpg

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm279/zmefly0130/P1020085.jpg

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm279/zmefly0130/P1020084.jpg

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm279/zmefly0130/P1020083.jpg

Nicely done.

Gio
04-14-2010, 12:41 PM
Slight make over, still need to figure out how to get the top piece on but here are two new pics of my Draco with Bulgarian Furniture, she is also sporting a 10/20 Bulgarian Tanker Magazine ;)

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2825.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2826.jpg

-Gio

joefrank64k
04-14-2010, 12:47 PM
Here are some new pictures of my amd pistol. I worn down the park to give it that just picked up off the street look.

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm279/zmefly0130/P1020088.jpg

Nice!!! :D

vintagedude88
04-15-2010, 9:08 AM
1. The Tapco forend furniture held up well, but the sliding cover on the bottom rail kept wanting to work itself off, so I just took it off. If I decide to keep it on I'll have to figure a way to fix it in place.
Try using a small self tapping screw on the front or back end of the cover.


Time to reload. Oh how I wish this was a free state so I could use my 30 rd mags and no mag lock!

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg304/steves67mini/Gun%20Stuff/Photo_040910_004-Copy.jpg


Gosh! I thought the krappy Assault Planet mag lock on mine was a pain. I guess even with the Solar Tactical lock its still the same.:(

twinjetguy
04-15-2010, 9:12 AM
Hey guys,

I had to get in on the fun as well! I built myself a "DJ Edition" replica. I tried to put just enough changes on it to make it mine though. These things are just too much fun!

Tapco Grip FDE
Tapco Muzzle Brake
Midwest Industries Handguard (this thing is pretty awesome!)
Gear Sector Finger Stop
Elzetta light mount (great price, works great)
Nextorch light with pigtail pressure switch (great deal)
10 Round Pro Mag
Assault Planet Mag Lock (MAKE SURE you loctite this!)

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/twinjetguy/Draco02.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/twinjetguy/Draco01.jpg

joefrank64k
04-15-2010, 9:15 AM
Gosh! I thought the krappy Assault Planet mag lock on mine was a pain. I guess even with the Solar Tactical lock its still the same.:(

The ST can be a pain...I've been using the Glock Disassembly Tool and it works great for me. I drilled a small hole through the handle to attach a lanyard for my wrist and I'm GTG.

It's only $5.99 w/03 FFL discount...

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=181144

NoahH
04-15-2010, 8:31 PM
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Dude that is really nice. I need one like that.

lil Max
04-15-2010, 10:15 PM
Awesome idea! Thanks for sharing!

The ST can be a pain...I've been using the Glock Disassembly Tool and it works great for me. I drilled a small hole through the handle to attach a lanyard for my wrist and I'm GTG.

It's only $5.99 w/03 FFL discount...

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=181144

Swift Justice
04-16-2010, 8:36 AM
I have a Draco from Henderson and I had the same problems too. The dust cover would fly off after every shot. It looks like the bolt rubs up against it when firing. Does anyone else have the same problem? What did you do to fix it? Thanks.

Make sure you've got the cover on the right way. It's easy to put it on so that the bottom lip of the cover goes over the edge on the rear (the trunnion?). If you put it on like that, it will definitely fly off after being shot or even just charging the first round. Make sure the bottom lip of the rear edge of the top cover goes on the inside lip of the rear plate. It will take a little bit more force to snap it in place than it would if you put it with the lip outside. Look at some of the close up pics posted in this thread - you will see the proper way it should look.

If you have it in place on the front edge lip and also inside edge of the rear plate and it is all snapped in correctly and it still is coming off, then there must be something wrong with the cover dimensionally and it would be time to call Henderson.

Swift Justice
04-16-2010, 8:44 AM
Try using a small self tapping screw on the front or back end of the cover.

Gosh! I thought the krappy Assault Planet mag lock on mine was a pain. I guess even with the Solar Tactical lock its still the same.:(

I thought about using a screw - don't know if the cover is really that functional so I may just run with it off.

We may rag on AR bullet buttons but they are so much more functional than an AK mag lock - at least the Solar Tactical. I had all kinds of tools with me at the range and the thing that worked best were my car keys to get it to release.

I'll have to try the Glock take down tool suggested - I've had a Glock forever but still have not got around to getting that tool.

I was at RCGE the other day and the guy behind the counter was demo'ing a converted Saiga to a customer - it had some type of mag lock that appeared to have a purpose built tool for it, sort of a wide paddle design plastic handle with a short rod sticking out of it that seemed to release the mag very easily once inserted. Didn't get what type it was, but it definitely wasn't a Glock tool.

Hoolpe
04-16-2010, 11:45 AM
Make sure you've got the cover on the right way. It's easy to put it on so that the bottom lip of the cover goes over the edge on the rear (the trunnion?). If you put it on like that, it will definitely fly off after being shot or even just charging the first round. Make sure the bottom lip of the rear edge of the top cover goes on the inside lip of the rear plate. It will take a little bit more force to snap it in place than it would if you put it with the lip outside. Look at some of the close up pics posted in this thread - you will see the proper way it should look.

If you have it in place on the front edge lip and also inside edge of the rear plate and it is all snapped in correctly and it still is coming off, then there must be something wrong with the cover dimensionally and it would be time to call Henderson.

I see what you're talking about and I wasn't installing that way. I will give that a try and I'm sure it will fix it. Thanks.

vintagedude88
04-17-2010, 6:34 PM
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I was at RCGE the other day and the guy behind the counter was demo'ing a converted Saiga to a customer - it had some type of mag lock that appeared to have a purpose built tool for it, sort of a wide paddle design plastic handle with a short rod sticking out of it that seemed to release the mag very easily once inserted. Didn't get what type it was, but it definitely wasn't a Glock tool.

That is a Raddlock.

Take a look here:http://www.parallaxtactical.com/store/raddlock-ak-series-magazine-lock-with-key-83.html

moorman949
04-17-2010, 8:07 PM
took her out today and shot s#!t!!!! thanks oc armory!!!
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/moorman949/DSC01602.jpg

JayBeeJay
04-18-2010, 2:31 PM
Looks good with the Bulgy wood Gio! So you decide to keep the Draco? You can go double fisted with the Lancaster in your other hand lol!

Slight make over, still need to figure out how to get the top piece on but here are two new pics of my Draco with Bulgarian Furniture, she is also sporting a 10/20 Bulgarian Tanker Magazine ;)

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2825.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/IMG_2826.jpg

-Gio

mydogsmonkey
04-23-2010, 12:08 AM
heres mine
bottom one awaits an FDE galil handguard to match
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/azn_seagull02/DSCF2379.jpg?t=1272009149

69Mach1
04-23-2010, 3:47 AM
Nice, but what is it with you and dual wielding. :)

mydogsmonkey
04-23-2010, 8:10 AM
Nice, but what is it with you and dual wielding. :)

lol i'll see tomorrow when i try it, i really want to try it at angeles too
we'll see if its everything im hoping it to be. hahaha

ProlificARProspect
05-07-2010, 6:44 PM
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/ProlificARProspect/ak3.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/ProlificARProspect/ak4.jpg

Gio
05-07-2010, 8:34 PM
Nice Krink :drool5:

-Gio

munkeeboi
05-18-2010, 11:19 AM
here's my new Draco....err...Champion .223!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/munkeeboi/bang/IMG_7382.jpg

E-120
05-18-2010, 6:21 PM
Nice pistols. I need to build a Krink to go with my Lancaster pistol.

Gio
05-18-2010, 7:07 PM
Nice munkeeboi, what no VM1 Sling Mount?

duraglock
05-18-2010, 7:32 PM
Guys the best tool to use with the solar lock is our mag mounted tool we have had out since the lock came out. We just upgraded the tip design to a more solid/faster setup.
http://www.solartactical.com/product.sc?productId=14&categoryId=20

ProlificARProspect
05-21-2010, 1:36 PM
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/ProlificARProspect/m92moe1.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/ProlificARProspect/m92moe2.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/ProlificARProspect/m92moe3.jpg

69Mach1
05-22-2010, 8:28 AM
Nice one Saigon.

cody336NC
05-24-2010, 11:45 AM
First off, this is my first post. I've been lingering on this forum for quite a while and im not even in cali. Im actually on the other side of the country (North Carolina). Excellent source of info IMO. I just wanted to say, DJLeisure, that is the coolest AK ive ever seen. I think ill build one. And i hope you guys dont mind me jumpin in on some of the froums from time to time.

cody336NC
05-24-2010, 12:05 PM
Alright, Thanks man

RookieShooter
06-06-2010, 9:34 AM
You guys are making me drooling! :drool5: :drool5: