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AlexBreya
01-20-2009, 5:44 PM
Hello guys,

My dad just bought a Kimber .45 ACP 1911 and we're kind of just getting what we can while we can. we went to walmart to pick up some ammo. they had 1000 rounds of .45s so we just grabbed them and skiddadaled. On the way home, i noticed that the boxes said ".45 AUTO" and it didn't say ACP anywhere on the box. we don't have the gun yet, but the rounds fit into the mags.

Just wondering if these are safe to shoot in a .45 ACP? i assume that they are the same thing, but i just don't want to blow up my hand over this.

they are blazer brass btw, thanks in advance!

BuisJoel
01-20-2009, 5:47 PM
where did you get that much and how much did you pay?

RedDawn
01-20-2009, 5:48 PM
You're fine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_ACP

stphnman20
01-20-2009, 5:49 PM
ACP = Automatic Colt Pistol

Auto for short.

AlexBreya
01-20-2009, 5:50 PM
where did you get that much and how much did you pay?

At the walmart in mountain view i believe. it was $14 for a box of 50, we bought 20, and after taxes, it was like $310. i don't know if it was a good deal because we never researched .45s before. we left 8 boxes there just so we don't ruin it for the next guy! :)

BuisJoel
01-20-2009, 5:53 PM
At the walmart in mountain view i believe. it was $14 for a box of 50, we bought 20, and after taxes, it was like $310. i don't know if it was a good deal because we never researched .45s before. we left 8 boxes there just so we don't ruin it for the next guy! :)

IMO thats the best range ammo out there. In best i mean; it always fires, cleaner then WWB/Rem or other cheaper ammo, inexpensive, never had a single problem with it. Good score

randy
01-20-2009, 6:31 PM
There are 2 kinds of 45 ammo and one 45 step child.

The first 45 was 45 Colt. Think old west.

Then Cold came out with 45 automatic colt pistol. This is the most common today.

Then Gaston Glock was feeling left out because some many others had calibers named after them he came out with the 45GAP waste of time.

You did good buying the ammo now buy more guns.

Sam
01-20-2009, 7:29 PM
The price you paid is consistent with what I've been paying for walmart ammo since the early summer, however be prepared to not go cheap on the self defense ammo.

bohoki
01-20-2009, 7:31 PM
it would be funny if colt came out with a 45 gap pistol and marked it 45 acpshort

AlexBreya
01-20-2009, 7:37 PM
The price you paid is consistent with what I've been paying for walmart ammo since the early summer, however be prepared to not go cheap on the self defense ammo.

i'm sure we'll buy like 1 box of corbons or something, but we don't really use guns for self defense. we live in a pretty safe area, so we spend all our gun related fun in Santa Cruz (and in the mountains, its not to often you get people breaking into your house)

PS should i get a .45 die set? we reload .308, .223, and 9mm already, so i would think the die set (and bullets) would be all i need.

devildog999
01-20-2009, 8:02 PM
ACP is the same as Auto ;)

jumbopanda
01-20-2009, 9:29 PM
At the walmart in mountain view i believe. it was $14 for a box of 50, we bought 20, and after taxes, it was like $310. i don't know if it was a good deal because we never researched .45s before. we left 8 boxes there just so we don't ruin it for the next guy! :)

At that price, you should have cleaned them out.

Warhawk014
01-20-2009, 9:56 PM
i would've cleaned them out

randy
01-20-2009, 11:48 PM
One more tidbit that doesn't really matter too much. You will hear people ask for 45 Long Colt. NO such thing. People added the word Long for whatever reason.

Also incase you don't know your gun doesn't use clips it uses magazines. That might save you from some body else poking at you down the road.

Bowser
01-20-2009, 11:57 PM
The designation ".45 Long Colt" originated amongst military personnel to prevent confusion with the smaller .45 Schofield. It has become a widely used alternative name for the cartridge, and adopted by Colt for use in designating the chambering in its own Single Action Army revolvers. - wikipedia

Captain Evilstomper
01-20-2009, 11:57 PM
blaser aluminium cases are non reloadable btw, that's why i never buy them

AndrewMendez
01-21-2009, 12:24 AM
The price you paid is consistent with what I've been paying for walmart ammo since the early summer, however be prepared to not go cheap on the self defense ammo.



WELL SAID!

dgey
01-21-2009, 12:41 AM
there's no such thing as a dumb question... just dumb answers...!

Kid Stanislaus
01-21-2009, 8:25 AM
i'm sure we'll buy like 1 box of corbons or something, but we don't really use guns for self defense. we live in a pretty safe area.........


There's no "safe place" in America anymore. Over the years there's been some horrific crimes committed in the Santa Cruz area.

Kid Stanislaus
01-21-2009, 8:29 AM
PS should i get a .45 die set? we reload .308, .223, and 9mm already, so i would think the die set (and bullets) would be all i need.


You'll use different powder and primers. If you're not using a quality reloading manual do yourself a BIG favor and get one right away. Be wary of loads you get from the i-net. Yeah, there's lots of good info on loads here but from time to time I've seen one that really made me scratch my head!:eek:

EDIT: BTW, don't try to reload aluminum cases.

tunder
01-21-2009, 11:16 PM
randy-

Don't forget my beloved .45 Auto Rim.

CSACANNONEER
01-22-2009, 5:16 AM
There are 2 kinds of 45 ammo and one 45 step child.

The first 45 was 45 Colt. Think old west.

Then Cold came out with 45 automatic colt pistol. This is the most common today.

Then Gaston Glock was feeling left out because some many others had calibers named after them he came out with the 45GAP waste of time.

You did good buying the ammo now buy more guns.

There are other .45 cal pistol cartridges as well, .45 auto rimmed and .45 win mag come to mind.

Harbinger
01-22-2009, 5:17 AM
There are other .45 cal pistol cartridges as well, .45 auto rimmed and .45 win mag come to mind.

Don't forget .45 Super! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_Super)

Mike

M. Sage
01-22-2009, 6:41 AM
There are 2 kinds of 45 ammo and one 45 step child.

The first 45 was 45 Colt. Think old west.

Then Cold came out with 45 automatic colt pistol. This is the most common today.

Then Gaston Glock was feeling left out because some many others had calibers named after them he came out with the 45GAP waste of time.

You did good buying the ammo now buy more guns.

Negative. Before the .45 Colt was the .45 S&W aka .45 Schofield. The .45 Colt (sometimes called Long Colt) is a longer version of that, like .357 magnum and .38 Special (or .38 special and .38 S&W).

.45 GAP actually solves some problems with .45 ACP. The case length is more reasonable and it's probably a lot less prone to setback issues (don't cycle .45 ACP through your gun too many times! Chamber it leave it till you shoot it).

Also, you forgot about the .45 Auto Rim. ;)

rue
01-22-2009, 6:48 AM
You could reload 500 rounds of ammo for less than half that. If you're already reloading buy some dies and make them yourself. I was estimating 500 rounds cost me about $75. I could do it even cheaper if I cast my own bullets.

Harbinger
01-22-2009, 7:17 AM
You could reload 500 rounds of ammo for less than half that. If you're already reloading buy some dies and make them yourself. I was estimating 500 rounds cost me about $75. I could do it even cheaper if I cast my own bullets.

Found brass + Cast/Moly bullets + Bullseye Powder (small amount needed vs. many other powders) = WIN

The only constant expense is the large pistol primers which, like powder, should be bought in bulk.

Mike