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Maddog5150
01-19-2009, 9:46 PM
I might have an offer comming up. I am asking the veterans of Afganistan how its like there. How are the missons ran, how are the fobs, how different is it from Iraq and any advice if someone was to deploy there.

sgtb
01-19-2009, 11:55 PM
soldiers are gladiators of opsec

chris
01-22-2009, 12:19 PM
OPSEC is a main issue please do not discuss them here on an open forum.

one can say the BS that happens in theater is the norm get used to seeing stupid crap happen all the time.

Maddog5150
01-22-2009, 4:07 PM
Christ I just wanted general advice and thought i would ask the vets here. I am not asking for secret **** :rolleyes:
Forget it, I'll ask someone else.

Matt C
01-22-2009, 4:11 PM
Ask in person. That said, a soldier's experience there 4 years ago will be very different than today, the situation on the ground has changed a lot.

NiteQwill
01-22-2009, 10:52 PM
I might have an offer comming up. I am asking the veterans of Afganistan how its like there. How are the missons ran, how are the fobs, how different is it from Iraq and any advice if someone was to deploy there.

Not a good idea to post even "possible" deployment on a public forum. :eek:

It's better to PM the vets in the forum instead.

JerryM
01-23-2009, 3:36 AM
Don't be so impulsive Maddog, take it easy.

OPSEC is very important and even the smallest "lowdown" can give away our hand.

It is general practice not to ask operational information on public forums.

If you want information about any region in the world, ask people who have been there who you can trust (like you said you will in your reply).

I can tell you this:

1) Do not buy any additional gear. You are going to get all the toys you want and/or can carry.

2) Save your money while you are there.

3) Get some good non-skid attachment for your boots (so you don't fall on your *** while working on ice).

4) Save your money and don't buy extra crap.

5) Did I mention "not buy extra crap"?

6) PM me if you want more specific information, or we can go to Starbucks and I can see your military ID and we can talk in person.

Good Luck,

SFC Jerry Mills

Stormfeather
01-26-2009, 8:04 AM
Don't be so impulsive Maddog, take it easy.

OPSEC is very important and even the smallest "lowdown" can give away our hand.

It is general practice not to ask operational information on public forums.

If you want information about any region in the world, ask people who have been there who you can trust (like you said you will in your reply).

I can tell you this:

1) Do not buy any additional gear. You are going to get all the toys you want and/or can carry.

2) Save your money while you are there.

3) Get some good non-skid attachment for your boots (so you don't fall on your *** while working on ice).

4) Save your money and don't buy extra crap.

5) Did I mention "not buy extra crap"?

6) PM me if you want more specific information, or we can go to Starbucks and I can see your military ID and we can talk in person.

Good Luck,

SFC Jerry Mills

All great info!

haodoken
01-30-2009, 10:41 AM
Yeah, you never know when the those sneaky intel folks :eek: are listening in! :TFH:

chris
01-30-2009, 1:21 PM
Yeah, you never know when the those sneaky intel folks :eek: are listening in! :TFH:

learned that stuff on my deployment.:TFH:

JerryM
01-30-2009, 6:55 PM
LOL. I almost forgot.

Do not, I repeat, do not take any personal weapon related parts.

This includes:

Magpul mags and stocks
Tactical charging handles
Upper assemblies of any kind
Weapon lights and lasers
Sights (both optical and BUIS)
Any non-issue related gear like personal helmets, armor, NBC, quick clot, compasses, issue auto blades, etc.

Let's just say that there are some very well equipped MPs doing Customs work and I am out several bucks.

If it is not issue you will not be able to bring it back.

They will not fuss over backpacks, pouches, clothing items, etc.

And, for some odd reason, they do not brief you on this (except armor).

Save your money.

They will confiscate all that stuff and you will not be able to ship it back.

Matt C
01-30-2009, 9:47 PM
LOL. I almost forgot.

Do not, I repeat, do not take any personal weapon related parts.

This includes:

Magpul mags and stocks
Tactical charging handles
Upper assemblies of any kind
Weapon lights and lasers
Sights (both optical and BUIS)
Any non-issue related gear like personal helmets, armor, NBC, quick clot, compasses, issue auto blades, etc.

Let's just say that there are some very well equipped MPs doing Customs work and I am out several bucks.

If it is not issue you will not be able to bring it back.

They will not fuss over backpacks, pouches, clothing items, etc.

And, for some odd reason, they do not brief you on this (except armor).

Save your money.

They will confiscate all that stuff and you will not be able to ship it back.

If MPs tookyour stuff PM, I would like to know why.

MrLogan
01-31-2009, 2:40 AM
Damn, if MP's are taking your gear, that is pretty shady.

MrLogan
01-31-2009, 2:43 AM
Christ I just wanted general advice and thought i would ask the vets here. I am not asking for secret **** :rolleyes:
Forget it, I'll ask someone else.

Take it easy there, grasshopper. ;)

The vets here have given you sound advice, which is to PM or ask in person. Always be mindful of OPSEC.

JerryM
02-01-2009, 12:17 AM
Before this gets out of hand, let me just tell you that the MPs were not taking things willie nillie. They were just following orders.

I seriously doubt that they would take the stuff for personal gain, but the confiscated equipment was available for use (hint hint, wink wink).

Nobody was able to provide a clear answer for the reasoning to the confiscations, but as soldiers do, they followed orders to the letter.

Nice people actually, the unit that was stuck pissing people off left and right by taking their equipment :(

If anybody can shed a light on this policy, I would love to hear it.

Thanks,

Jerry.

dwa
02-01-2009, 1:31 AM
Before this gets out of hand, let me just tell you that the MPs were not taking things willie nillie. They were just following orders.

I seriously doubt that they would take the stuff for personal gain, but the confiscated equipment was available for use (hint hint, wink wink).

Nobody was able to provide a clear answer for the reasoning to the confiscations, but as soldiers do, they followed orders to the letter.

Nice people actually, the unit that was stuck pissing people off left and right by taking their equipment :(

If anybody can shed a light on this policy, I would love to hear it.

Thanks,

Jerry.

that's very odd we were able to get out of Iraq with optics auto folders and things like that in the duffle bags. optics didn't get turned in until we were walking off the plane back home so you could just pull your personal stuff off the weapon before turning it in

JerryM
02-01-2009, 4:30 AM
that's very odd we were able to get out of Iraq with optics auto folders and things like that in the duffle bags. optics didn't get turned in until we were walking off the plane back home so you could just pull your personal stuff off the weapon before turning it in

Yes, it is insane. In 2004, I brought everything from Iraq. The plates I bought from Canada, the radios from eBay, knives, etc.

This time (Mid 2008) c*ckblocked. LOL.

BB63Squid
02-21-2009, 9:06 AM
Jerry,

Thanks for the input on this. We have a family friend who is deploying in a few weeks. This is valuable info as I am sure he was ready to tote a bunch of tactical gear over there.

Any other recommendations on what he should bring with regards to more personal items and what is verboten?

Squid

Stormfeather
02-21-2009, 9:20 AM
Jerry,

Thanks for the input on this. We have a family friend who is deploying in a few weeks. This is valuable info as I am sure he was ready to tote a bunch of tactical gear over there.

Any other recommendations on what he should bring with regards to more personal items and what is verboten?

Squid


Most anything he needs will get issued to him, plus im sure he will be able to find all sorts of goodies at the PX if he wants to be a gear queer. I wouldnt recommend buying alot of stuff as was mentioned earlier.

Stuff to bring
Just from my experience. . . . . YMMV

Bring. . . .

* Laptop
* Removable hard drives with movies/pictures/porn already downloaded
* small tactical items, seatbelt cutter if hes mobile, a good knife, gerber multi-pliers
* Barber brush for weapons cleaning
* FleshLight
* lots of patience
* One set of hardy civilian clothes

Verboten Items. . . . .. . . YMMV

* Alcohol
* Midgets
* Porn Mags, Dvd's, blatant porn
* 7.5" or 11" uppers for your M-4 (ask how I know. . .:D)

BB63Squid
02-21-2009, 9:42 AM
SF,

TY, I will print this thread out and bring it to his going away party this afternoon.

Stormfeather
02-21-2009, 10:06 AM
Glad I could be of assistance!

MacDaddy
02-21-2009, 4:18 PM
Stormfeather, I just have to ask, did you really mean Fleshlight? Or flashlight?

I'm also curious, why no personal rifle gear? If it helps you because you're familiar with it, why can't you bring it?

JerryM
02-22-2009, 4:32 PM
I am not going to put words into SF's mouth, but I think he meant flesh.

I mean, you can get a flashlight at the PX LOL.

I'm sorry to hear about your upper man...

mapleleafup
02-22-2009, 5:05 PM
my best mate is in fort leggit socal is doing a MIC88 driving course then heading off to afghanistan sometime soon. Stay safe over there.

Maddog5150
02-22-2009, 5:10 PM
Well thanks for the advice but I just found out where I'm going. I will share the information when I can but its no hooah hooah cool place.
*edit* and by when i can i mean when its public obviously ;)

showerbabies
02-23-2009, 9:23 PM
For one thing, Afghan is definitely different from Iraq. Those Taliban/ Al-Queda are trained killers. They have a bunch of conflicts under their belt. Not even the Mighty Red could take them (... without some help from us. :X). Unlike us, they are very patient, they will fight long wars; we just want short wars.

Second, Afghan is located in South-west Asia (SWA), not the Middle-east. It has mountainous terrain, and it gets below zero degrees.

Like JerryM said, don't bring extra gear, not even a spring-assisted blade (ie Benchmade). My SNCOs warned us now to bring back war trophies like shell casings, unless it was approved by the CO. On their earlier MOB 06?, Customs called out the member and the Skipper, and things got real ugly. Customs doesn't play, they will unroll every single pair of socks, and every sq inch of your seabag. I just DeMOB'd in SEP08, and a bunch of us almost lost our Benchmades!!! Good thing one of our Brass vouched for us. Oh, if you're bringing something, I'd say get a "fleshlight," haha and a Gerber. Those came in handy. Don't worry about your magpuls; you can use 550 cords.

docsmileyface
02-24-2009, 6:55 AM
its no hooah hooah cool place.


Oh snap you must be coming here to Iraq....

Maddog5150
02-24-2009, 5:36 PM
Oh snap you must be coming here to Iraq....

Thats a negative ghost rider but a PM is on its way.

dwa
02-24-2009, 8:21 PM
Yes, it is insane. In 2004, I brought everything from Iraq. The plates I bought from Canada, the radios from eBay, knives, etc.

This time (Mid 2008) c*ckblocked. LOL.

hmm i left late 2007 my second time and again no issue with anything except no blades in the carry ons. and they let me walk on with an m4 but made me throw out my shaving cream.

JerryM
02-24-2009, 11:15 PM
Hey DWA,

CJTF82 was pretty straight forward and on the dot. I am assuming you left when they were in charge.

But CJTF101 had to reinvent the wheel, and a lot of things have changed (hell, even sex is authorized now in AF).

AFAIK, who knows what is going on right now. I am not sure who is in charge of the AO now.

I have to find a copy of the memo so you guys can laugh/cry at the same time.

Cheers,

Jerry.

nick
02-24-2009, 11:23 PM
(hell, even sex is authorized now in AF).


Are you serious? Who died?

dwa
02-25-2009, 12:52 AM
Hey DWA,

CJTF82 was pretty straight forward and on the dot. I am assuming you left when they were in charge.

But CJTF101 had to reinvent the wheel, and a lot of things have changed (hell, even sex is authorized now in AF).

AFAIK, who knows what is going on right now. I am not sure who is in charge of the AO now.

I have to find a copy of the memo so you guys can laugh/cry at the same time.

Cheers,

Jerry.

i guess i just missed the foolishness although i had a little jaw jacking with one of em. what is the world coming too...