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Infidel
12-26-2008, 4:28 PM
Does anyone know if this will meet the overall length requirements?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/toddsuff/CopyofPC250106.jpg

69Mach1
12-26-2008, 4:34 PM
With the 18 in barrel, yes. The 16 in barrel might be close.

PIRATE14
12-26-2008, 4:53 PM
With the 18 in barrel, yes. The 16 in barrel might be close.

The para PTRs w/ 16" barrels make it past 30".....

_Odin_
12-26-2008, 7:01 PM
yea, you're good to go.

even the GSG-5 w/ it's 16" bbl is legal w/ a collapsible stock (or no stock at all for that matter).

NSR500
12-26-2008, 7:06 PM
yea, you're good to go.

even the GSG-5 w/ it's 16" bbl is legal w/ a collapsible stock (or no stock at all for that matter).

The GSG-5 has different rules because the minimum for a rimfire is 26" so be careful using it a measuring stick.

69Mach1
12-26-2008, 7:07 PM
yea, you're good to go.

even the GSG-5 w/ it's 16" bbl is legal w/ a collapsible stock (or no stock at all for that matter).

Negative. OAL for rimfires is 26in. That's why it's legal. If it was a centerfire, it would fall short with a collapsible stock.

_Odin_
12-26-2008, 7:31 PM
Negative. OAL for rimfires is 26in. That's why it's legal. If it was a centerfire, it would fall short with a collapsible stock.

Where in the CA PC does it say this? I searched but found nothing :confused:

Quiet
12-26-2008, 7:43 PM
Where in the CA PC does it say this? I searched but found nothing :confused:

Penal Code 12020(c)(2) defines what a short-barreled rifle is (BL less than 16" and/or OAL less than 26").

Penal Code 12276.1(a)(3) defines semi-auto centerfire rifles with an OAL less than 30" as an assault weapon.

Since a semi-auto .22LR rifle does not fall under 12276.1(a)(3) it has to abide by 12020(c)(2) for it's minimum length.

Infidel
12-26-2008, 10:10 PM
Pirate you think I will be safe?...I want to bid on this on Gunbroker but would hate to buy it and when it gets to my FFL they ship it back or even worse call the cops:eek:

NSR500
12-26-2008, 10:37 PM
Have it shipped as a barreled receiver with the rest of the parts directly to you. Do the 10 days then take it home, measure the gun collapsed, and add a longer FH or Butt Pad if needed.
Although, I must say that the standard PTR with 16"barrel should hit the 30".

a1fabweld
12-27-2008, 8:51 AM
My PTR91K with a 16" barrel measures out at 31-1/4" with that stock collapsed. You'll be good. Make sure that the seller on gunbroker actually will ship to CA. There are some guys on there that won't ship 16" AR uppers to CA. I had an argument on the gunbroker forum about why guys won't ship to CA. Some of the inbred hillbillies on there replied with "stop crying & buy from someone else". I wish some of the guys from this forum were on there to back me up. It ended up getting nasty & a moderator deleted all posts & closed the thread.

AlexBreya
12-27-2008, 1:36 PM
yea, you're good to go.

even the GSG-5 w/ it's 16" bbl is legal w/ a collapsible stock (or no stock at all for that matter).

just so you know, the gsg5 without a stock at all is only 24 inches, but all the other stocks will add at least 2 inches...

gn3hz3ku1*
12-27-2008, 2:09 PM
just so you know, the gsg5 without a stock at all is only 24 inches, but all the other stocks will add at least 2 inches...

i think the sidefolders are a nono... funny how they ship with the stock off.. hmmm

rorschach
12-27-2008, 3:49 PM
I have the PTR with a 16" bbl and HK collapsible stock and it is a hair over 31".

You should be GTG.

cseabass
12-27-2008, 5:00 PM
infidel i will vouch that a 16" with a collapsable will be over 30". mine is. about 32in if i remember correctly.

ETA ^^^ what he said:p