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pbrand
12-12-2008, 10:00 PM
My buddy is buying this rifle HERE (http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_700/model_700_VTR.asp) (Remington 700 VTR in .308) and wants me to find out what the best bang for his buck on a scope with a $400 budget. Optics I know, but rifle scopes I do not know. I do know it is going to be for target shooting.

I am looking forward to hearing what's out there and thanks!

Hoop
12-12-2008, 10:06 PM
http://www.swfa.com/c-231-super-sniper-rifle-scopes.aspx is what I'm buying for a .308. The one I used impressed me and I hear nothing but good about them. Just make sure to tell him to get the 10X, the higher magnification ones don't seem to be as popular (resale value).

Solidsnake87
12-12-2008, 11:44 PM
Check out the SWFA super sniper series. Pretty good bang for the buck. If you don't mind spending slightly more, the Leupold Mark 2 series appears to be an exciting line of scopes.

jcaoloveshine
12-13-2008, 12:08 AM
If you want a 10x get the Elite 3200 (I got mine LNIB for $160 shipped) and take the leftover money to get a new stock, that tupperware stock does not free-float the barrel and so the rifle is .75moa when it could be 0.25-0.5 with a good stock (B and C or HS).

For variable power Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14x works well as well as the Bushnell 4200 line.

The Bacon Eater
12-13-2008, 12:13 AM
I just picked up a Falcon FFP scope and love it. It was $410 shipped. Pm and i will send you the link to it.

dchang0
12-13-2008, 12:17 AM
If you use the Live.com Cashback program, it is possible to get up to a $571 scope for $400 or less, if you snag the scope when the cashback rebate is at 30%. Of course, you'd have to pay the full amount up front and get your money back later, but that's how I got all my most recent optics, including an AWESOME Trijicon Accupoint TR21-3, which ended up costing $363 brand new, after the rebate! There was a lightly-used red triangle TR21 for $478 at the time, which would have discounted down to $334--a freakin' steal for a Trijicon.

So, what I'm saying is that using this rebate gives you access to a whole range of better scopes!

kblack583
12-13-2008, 5:37 AM
I put the 10x Elite 3200 on that exact rifle and have had no complaints. I've let quite a few people shoot this setup and they've all fell in love with it.

Hard to beat the price and performance of this scope.

The other one I almost put on it was the 10X Super Sniper.

freonr22
12-13-2008, 7:33 AM
i just did a nikon monarch w/ bdc 4x14x40 $410 shipped. off gun broker... but if you take a peek @ samplelist.com (through swfa) they have some screamin deals... the team primos line of nikon is the same as the monarch but 1 year old or so and like 25%-50% less

Darklyte27
12-13-2008, 7:33 AM
supersniper

lunchb0x
12-13-2008, 8:11 AM
I've put a Nikon Monarch 4-16x42 mildot on my .308 VTR... got it from Budsgunshop.com for $378.

pbrand
12-13-2008, 12:10 PM
Thanks for the replies guys!

hamster
12-13-2008, 12:42 PM
burris!

Shane916
12-13-2008, 12:45 PM
Super Sniper 10x42

Spearo
12-13-2008, 2:39 PM
i just did a nikon monarch w/ bdc 4x14x40 $410 shipped. off gun broker... but if you take a peek @ samplelist.com (through swfa) they have some screamin deals... the team primos line of nikon is the same as the monarch but 1 year old or so and like 25%-50% less

+1
Great optic for the money.

5hundo
12-13-2008, 3:56 PM
I just saw that midway has some deals on Leupold scopes on their website:

http://www.midwayusa.com/epromolisting.exe/showpage?promotionid=241801&utm_source=fleupold&utm_medium=homepage120808

jcaoloveshine
12-13-2008, 3:56 PM
+1
Great optic for the money.

unless he's gonna use the rifle strictly for hunting mildots would probably be better i think

ar15barrels
12-13-2008, 8:11 PM
If you use the Live.com Cashback program, it is possible to get up to a $571 scope for $400 or less, if you snag the scope when the cashback rebate is at 30%. Of course, you'd have to pay the full amount up front and get your money back later, but that's how I got all my most recent optics, including an AWESOME Trijicon Accupoint TR21-3, which ended up costing $363 brand new, after the rebate!

I have bought 3 Nightforce NXS scopes and a Trijicon TR21-3 using live cashback to the tune of $850 in rebates in the last 3 months.
The discount max is $200 per item now, down from the $250 per item a few months ago.

supermario
12-13-2008, 10:31 PM
Me and some of my hardcore hunting buddies use the various Burris Scopes, there are many many different models and usually they sell a fullfield tactical 3x9x 40mm for $199. plus they give you a free spotting scope or gps or binos. And my buddies do more hunting than me and they have used their scopes in harsh environments year after year and they work flawless. Trust me there the best buy i think. I own a Burris Euro Diamond 3-12x50mm, man that scope is awesome. Oh also they come with ballistic plex reticle, so you can zero you 100yard and then have marks out to 500yards! Look them up on SWFA, cheaper than dirt and Natchez, they all offer great deals. Anyways i swear on these scopes!!

sgl
12-13-2008, 10:43 PM
bushnell or Leupold, they have some under 400 that are great.

Mudrigg
12-16-2008, 4:59 PM
Hi all,

I am "the buddy" that is looking for the scope. Thanks a bunch for all of the opinions and input. After going over the site and this thread, I have picked out a scope and I would like your input.

Nikon Monarch 5-20x44 with a BDC Reticle. I have found it for as low as $439.

I am interested in a scope with adjustible magnification so this is about the range I would like. Let me know if you guys think this is the best I can do in the price range or if you have any comparable options in the price range.

Thanks,

Mudrigg

tmuller
12-16-2008, 5:18 PM
How far will you be shooting? Do you need that much magnification? You may want to look into a mil dot reticle as well. Nikon has a very good reputation, I have never owned one however, but I'm sure it will work well for you.

ar15barrels
12-16-2008, 5:32 PM
How far will you be shooting? Do you need that much magnification? You may want to look into a mil dot reticle as well. Nikon has a very good reputation, I have never owned one however, but I'm sure it will work well for you.

Exactly.
People don't realize that you really don't gain a whole lot as you pass 12x or so.
I shoot to 1000yds just fine with a 15x nightforce.
Quite often, I turn it down to 3.5x or 10x too.

The narrow field of view of those high power scopes really detracts a lot more than the high power adds.

maxicon
12-17-2008, 9:32 AM
Exactly.
People don't realize that you really don' gain a whole lot as you pass 12x or so.
I shoot to 1000yds just fine with a 15x nightforce.
Quite often, I turn it down to 3.5x or 10x too.

The narrow field of view of those high power scopes really detracts a lot more than the high power adds.

This is true. Here's one way to look at it:

Going from 12x to 18x is only 1.5x as much magnification. Going from 12x to 24x is only 2x as much.

There's a reason the 3-9x is the most popular scope range by a huge amount.

rksimple
12-17-2008, 12:07 PM
You're getting a lot of recommendations but they may all be meaningless if we don't know what type of shooting you're going to be doing. How far are you going to shoot? What size targets? Multiple targets? Time constraints? No hunting at all? Competitions?

Mudrigg
12-17-2008, 8:16 PM
Thanks for the input everyone. Let me clarify a bit. The general range that I will use for shooting has distances for 100-220 yds for rifles. However, there may be an occasion where I take the gun to the outdoors where it will see some target shooting at lengths of 500-1000yds for fun.

It will probably never see any hunting use and the long distance ranges would be at single targets (although I might try some grouping at that range if I ever get good enough). The idea for the magnification was to make sure I had enough choices and since this is my first rifle scope, I wanted enough options so that I can get comfortable and find what works for me. I hope that this helps clarify.

Axewound
12-17-2008, 8:26 PM
i like my nikon buckmaster with a BDC, i have it on a R700 in .308

mr2.0
12-17-2008, 11:01 PM
I've had bad luck with SS 10x side focus, no reason to go back. bought the Bushnell Elite 3200 10x for my sks and IOR for my AR.

ar15barrels
12-17-2008, 11:11 PM
Thanks for the input everyone. Let me clarify a bit. The general range that I will use for shooting has distances for 100-220 yds for rifles.

You really won't like the narrow field of view that the high power scopes give you then.
Look for a nice 3-9 or maybe a 3.5-10 as about perfect.

I have an east german zeiss diavari 3-9 I was thinking of selling for $400 that would be an awesome piece of glass.
It's a hunting scope though, not a target scope.
It does not have target knobs.

xibunkrlilkidsx
12-18-2008, 6:58 AM
Midwayusa.com has a nikon buckmaster 6-18 mil dot for 300. I have one on my 700 in .308 and it has done very well through ~400 rounds.

rksimple
12-18-2008, 7:02 AM
Given your criteria, Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14 mildot. If you can stand 1/8 moa adjustments, the 6-18 aint bad either.

ar15barrels
12-18-2008, 7:57 AM
I could not imagine 6 power being my lowest power.

StraightShooter
12-18-2008, 8:59 AM
I would get a 3-9 magnification. I cant tell you how many coyotes I have missed because my 10x fixed burris xtr didnt allow me to find my target quick enough. I ended up taking it off and put my aimpoint on my hunting rifle for coyote hunting. I have made easy hits out to 300 yards with that setup.

ar15barrels
12-18-2008, 9:01 AM
I would get a 3-9 magnification. I cant tell you how many coyotes I have missed because my 10x fixed burris xtr didnt allow me to find my target quick enough. I ended up taking it off and put my aimpoint on my hunting rifle for coyote hunting. I have made easy hits out to 300 yards with that setup.

I think it's a sign of inexperience when people automatically go for the most powerful scopes.
I did it myself early on, but I was only bench shooting and it did not matter.
As soon as you stand up from the bench, you realize how over-scoped you are.

StraightShooter
12-18-2008, 9:06 AM
I think it's a sign of inexperience when people automatically go for the most powerful scopes.
I did it myself early on, but I was only bench shooting and it did not matter.
As soon as you stand up from the bench, you realize how over-scoped you are.

Exactly, i did the same thing when i first got into shooting and hunting. It is the suckiest feeling when you get that chance for a shot on a really nice animal and you cant find it through the scope. Ive got a pentax lightseeker 3-9 on my .300wsm hunting rifle and I really like it. It would also be in your price range. It has very clear glass and is excellent in low light.

Mudrigg
12-19-2008, 2:32 PM
So, if I am hearing people correctly, then a 5x magnification (the lowest setting on this particular scope) would be too much at 100-200 yds?

(Keep in mind that there is minimal to no chance that I will be hunting with this rifle, mostly stationary targets like paper targets at 100-200yds or metal plates, cans, or whatever at longer distances 500+)

Thanks again for all the opinions.

BigBamBoo
12-19-2008, 6:55 PM
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FMJBT
12-19-2008, 9:07 PM
I am REALLY happy with my Bushnell Elite 6500...a bit more, but it has a very broad mag. range. The model I have is 2.5 - 16X....this allows for close in hunting...or if I am punching paper at 300+ I can go to 16X and still see the bullet holes in my targets. Plus it is a 30mm main tube scope with 80 MOA total adjustment.

It is not a Leupold MK 4, USO, or NF by any means....but I picked it up for about $475 on ebay new.

I like it so much I bought another one today to put on a new rifle I bought today also.

Good luck on your search.

Take care,Stan

Stan,

What magnification level is the mil dot on that calibrated to?

BallisticTech
12-20-2008, 10:08 AM
That is a good rifle.

Based upon your budget criteria:
If you are planning on shooting long-range, then I would suggest the Super Sniper Scope. If not, then I would use a Leupold or Nikon.

ojisan
12-20-2008, 1:21 PM
3 x 9 to have a good time.
3x for close, quick or moving target. (Hunt, snap-shoot practice)
9x for the bench.
One scope for most uses.