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FS00008
12-10-2008, 3:12 PM
Would this stock maybe be legal for use with a droppable mag in California? If so, where could I find one?

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qNPDE9DH1vi6WJGLhFd34g

This is where I found it (Located in New Zealand... look at those prices! :eek:)

http://www.guncity.co.nz/223-bushmaster-ar15-a3-carbine-xidp212663.html

SFFRONTMAN
12-10-2008, 3:13 PM
That is still a pistol grip, so detachable magazines would be a no no.

FS00008
12-10-2008, 3:14 PM
Even though it is attached to the stock?

762cavalier
12-10-2008, 3:14 PM
No not legal. still considered a pistol grip.:(

Allows the web of your hand to be below the action. which is the defintion of a pistol grip

RobG
12-10-2008, 3:14 PM
Nope. Thumbhole, pistol grip, same thing. It looks like a stock I have seen in the Midway catalog.

Rhys898
12-10-2008, 3:14 PM
That's a thumbhole stock and is treated the same as a pistol grip and seperate stock as far as detachable magazines go.

Jer

FS00008
12-10-2008, 3:14 PM
Dang it. These laws give me a major headache sometimes...

FS00008
12-10-2008, 3:16 PM
I wouldn't even bother with that. I'd go with the A2 stock and MMG.

ohsmily
12-10-2008, 3:31 PM
Would this stock maybe be legal for use with a droppable mag in California? If so, where could I find one?

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qNPDE9DH1vi6WJGLhFd34g

This is where I found it (Located in New Zealand... look at those prices! :eek:)

http://www.guncity.co.nz/223-bushmaster-ar15-a3-carbine-xidp212663.html

Are you serious??? It is a pistol grip and more importantly it is a thumbhole stock....

FS00008
12-10-2008, 4:19 PM
I wouldn't have asked if I wasn't serious.

LB21
12-10-2008, 5:26 PM
I should have moved to NZ when I had the chance...

Infidel
12-10-2008, 7:19 PM
Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I think as a rule of thumb if it protrudes below the action its considered an "evil feature grip"

Fate
12-10-2008, 7:27 PM
Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I think as a rule of thumb if it protrudes below the action its considered an "evil feature grip"
Partial points. There's more to the reg than "conspicuously protruding below the action." It also includes "the ability for a pistol style grasp," which is further defined as allowing a pistol style grip in which the web of the hand is below the action."

Thus MonsterMan and "batwing" style grips are legal as they do not allow a pistol style grip.

Infidel
12-10-2008, 7:45 PM
Partial points. There's more to the reg than "conspicuously protruding below the action." It also includes "the ability for a pistol style grasp," which is further defined as allowing a pistol style grip in which the web of the hand is below the action."

Thus MonsterMan and "batwing" style grips are legal as they do not allow a pistol style grip.

However in no way could it be legal if the grip protrudes below the action...Correct?

JagerTroop
12-10-2008, 7:55 PM
However in no way could it be legal if the grip protrudes below the action...Correct?

Incorrect. The law states... "a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon"... not just any 'ol grip.

A pistol grip is defined as: "a grip that allows for a pistol style grasp in which the web of the trigger hand (between the thumb and index finger) can be placed below the top of the exposed portion of the trigger while firing."

Vinz
12-10-2008, 8:12 PM
Would this stock maybe be legal for use with a droppable mag in California? If so, where could I find one?

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qNPDE9DH1vi6WJGLhFd34g

This is where I found it (Located in New Zealand... look at those prices! :eek:)

http://www.guncity.co.nz/223-bushmaster-ar15-a3-carbine-xidp212663.html
you can do this... http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/hkSONY1191.jpg
photo courtesy of 69mach1

vinz

weezil_boi
12-10-2008, 8:23 PM
Looks alot like a daewoo stock ;)