intrafamily transfer question

[corpsedub]

i know this subject has been covered before, but i have a few questions and im a little confused.

my wife recently got a .357 from her father which was her brothers gun. they found it in a box in a closet. the brother now lives on the east coast. we would like to do an intrafamily transfer, but the gun is here, not on the east coast. i assume it would not be a good idea to bring the gun to an FFL since possesion is allready there. what can we do in this situation? does the brother have to be there? any help is appreciated.

[Ten Rounder]

from son to father, from father to daughter, daughter gets and fills out form by herself and $19. As simple as that, provided that the daughter is not prohibited from owning a handgun.

I think the DOJ is happy that the gun is in new REGESTERED hands and doesn't say much about the slightly broken chain of ownership

I am not a lawyer and ask the DOJ if you've got the time

[hawk1]

This is the form that you will need.
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/oplaw.pdf

[corpsedub]

thanks for the replies! so will i need to have the intrafamily transfer from son to father, then once that goes through, fill out another one from father to daughter? sorry bout the noob questions :):) in addition, will there be any issue transfering it to the father since the son is out of state?

[hawk1]

thanks for the replies! so will i need to have the intrafamily transfer from son to father, then once that goes through, fill out another one from father to daughter? sorry bout the noob questions :):) in addition, will there be any issue transfering it to the father since the son is out of state?

If the transfer from son to father was done in another state then California is not part of that transaction. Best to leave that one alone...


Edited to add: Also, if the transfer from son to father was done in this state, and was done before 1992 then from what I recall that was before record keeping was used by California...

[corpsedub]

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[Ten Rounder]

If dad gave her the gun, then she should fill out the paper work and be done with it, don't make it complicated, reread my post above

from son to father, from father to daughter, daughter gets and fills out form by herself

Son gave it to Dad on his way out of town, don't make it complicated

[corpsedub]

If dad gave her the gun, then she should fill out the paper work and be done with it, don't make it complicated, reread my post above

from son to father, from father to daughter, daughter gets and fills out form by herself

Son gave it to Dad on his way out of town, don't make it complicated

got it, thanks :p

edit: smacks self in the head lol.

[thebullet]

Im going to buy a rifle from my brother can i use this form or do i need to go to a ffl. P.S. my dad lives in arizoina if you guys need to know.

[DDT]

gotta go to a ffl and pay the $35 extortion.... errr. I mean Private Party Transfer fee.

[pfl101]

For OLL, can a son give to father without official paperwork/payments being involved?

How do you prove you gave the rifle to dad?

[Librarian]

For OLL, can a son give to father without official paperwork/payments being involved?

How do you prove you gave the rifle to dad?

Sure. It's just a rifle - intrafamilial long guns are paperless.

Dad can file the Voluntary Registration (http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/volreg.pdf) form, with fee, if he wants to.

[DDT]

Sure. It's just a rifle - intrafamilial long guns are paperless.

Dad can file the Voluntary Registration (http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/volreg.pdf) form, with fee, if he wants to.

This is all assuming that father and son reside in the same state, correct?

[Librarian]

This is all assuming that father and son reside in the same state, correct?

True. I guess we've learned that can be a dangerous assumption. :eek:

To address that, the transfer (of long guns) between family members is paperless (if both family members are) in CA; interstate transfer must go through an FFL.

Interstate transfer means the current owner of the weapon is a resident of a different state than (the one in which) the receiver of the weapon lives.

The current location of the weapon is only a matter of convenience to the parties; it's the residence states of the owner and the buyer that concerns the Feds.

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Transferring_firearms_Interstate

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Transferring_Firearms_Among_Some_Family_Members

[phsieh10]

What about the HSC card for handgun transfers. Does the receiving party need one?

[Librarian]

What about the HSC card for handgun transfers. Does the receiving party need one?

Yes, unless in one of the exempted classes - LEO, retired military, some others.

[vwynn]

raising an old post..

What are the laws regarding Brother to brother transfer?? or it is not possible?

Brother (21) transfering handgun to me (19)??

[DDT]

It has to go through Dad.

[ke6guj]

brother to brother requires you to do a PPT transfer through a dealer.

[vwynn]

brother to brother requires you to do a PPT transfer through a dealer.

ok so.. going through the FFL dealers.. do i have to be 21?

i understand that u have to be 21 to buy a handgun OFF the dealer.. but yea. just need to clarify

Thanks

[Librarian]

ok so.. going through the FFL dealers.. do i have to be 21?

i understand that u have to be 21 to buy a handgun OFF the dealer.. but yea. just need to clarify

Thanks

A dealer is forbidden to deliver a handgun to someone under 21; PPT results in a dealer taking possession, holding, and subsequently delivering, so yes you need to be 21.

[ke6guj]

ok so.. going through the FFL dealers.. do i have to be 21?

i understand that u have to be 21 to buy a handgun OFF the dealer.. but yea. just need to clarify

Thanks

yes, must be 21 to do a transfer through a dealer. Sorry, I missed that you mentioned you were 19 in an earlier post.

basically, the only way for you to legally acquire a handgun in CA while under 21 is an intrafamily transfer from a parent or grandparent, who is also a CA-resident.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

...basically, the only way for you to legally acquire a handgun in CA while under 21 is an intrafamily transfer from a parent or grandparent, who is also a CA-resident.

Or a transfer from the estate of an out of state parent or grandparent who has passed away.

[ke6guj]

thats why I said "basically":D. I knew there were a couple obscure methods available, but didn't take the time to confirm them. And, AFAIK, you could build your own handgun from scratch and be legal as well.

[DDT]

Or a transfer from the estate of an out of state parent or grandparent who has passed away.

Or if you are a "secured creditor" or a couple other issues as long as we're talking about offing his parents for a handgun. :D