do you open carry?

[five.five-six]

do you open carry?

[ENTHUSIAST]

Next SD OC Lunch I will. :)









Post #400 :party:

[freakshow10mm]

Yes, but I'm in MI. We are an open carry state.

[Darklyte27]

sure if i knew i was not going to get in any trouble at all.

but until thats guaranteed im not doing it.

[sorensen440]

Nope
I'm not in a position where I could afford a proper defense.

[bdsmchs]

I open-carry in friendly states like AZ, but like Sorensen, I'm not going to do it here until:

1.) I have the money/resources for defense should it be necessary
2.) It becomes logistically needed for shall-issue CCW.

When the "Right people" start telling us we should really be open-carrying to get legislature off it's *** and push CCW reform through, you're damn right I'll have a gun on my hip!

I'm also holding out for LOC post-Nordyke with incorporation.

[nick]

I went with #3. I may be able to afford this financially, but I can't afford dealing with the potential issues right now where time is concerned. I will do so if needed though, for example, if going to a dangerous area, things like that, or when my business doesn't depend on myself as much.

[D53]

I have recently started to OC and i have had no problems even while going to the bank. But I do carry literature with me and a voice recorder just in case.

[pullnshoot25]

FARK YEAH I OPEN CARRY!

[Liberty1]

I have recently started to OC and i have had no problems even while going to the bank. But I do carry literature with me and a voice recorder just in case.


Introduce over at OCDO if you haven't already and post your experiences please!

And welcome!! :)

[Slayer]

How about a "do not have an appropriate holster yet" option?

[Liberty1]

sure if i knew i was not going to get in any trouble at all.

but until thats guaranteed im not doing it.

Thats not even guaranteed in "free states". Gota start living at some point and take a stand. I don't blame anyone for waiting for clearer circumstances for LOC however for UOC how much clearer can it get after that CPOA letter? Yes I know, Nordyke and 1983 will help many to be more comfortable with the risks. Here comes a roller coster ride for '09!!!

[MudCamper]

The poll needs another option between "yes, all the time" and "yes, once". Yes, sometimes.

[Timberwolf]

Why tempt fate, I live and work in LA.

[pullnshoot25]

I will throw this offer out there again for all the open carriers out there...

If anyone that is open carrying currently and would like to post their stories in an easily recognizable place, feel free to contact me and I will make you an author on my blog. It already is getting Google search hits and with more stories it will really get out there.

Just a suggestion.

CARRY ON!!!

-N8

[jjperl]

There's a mine field of school zones where I live, so no, I don't.

[tombinghamthegreat]

I want to but i do not have a handgun of my own and open carrying a AK style rifle around would be a bit of a pain not to mention draw alot of attention. Still i want to OC and have alot of respect for the people that OC.

[Dark&Good]

I don't have a handgun... can I unloaded-open-carry a shotgun? Or a knife? I'd like to. Also, I'm not citizen, I'm permanent resident, is that a disadvantage in open carry?

[tombinghamthegreat]

I don't have a handgun... can I unloaded-open-carry a shotgun? Or a knife? I'd like to. Also, I'm not citizen, I'm permanent resident, is that a disadvantage in open carry?

You can open carry both, i have OC a bowie knife in my area but check local laws, not to sure about the permanent resident thing though.

EDIT: I have not heard good things about the SF area, may want to check more into it.

[sorensen440]

I don't have a handgun... can I unloaded-open-carry a shotgun? Or a knife? I'd like to. Also, I'm not citizen, I'm permanent resident, is that a disadvantage in open carry?

um i think you could technically unloaded conceal carry a long gun
(someone back me up if I'm right)

[tombinghamthegreat]

um i think you could technically unloaded conceal carry a long gun
(someone back me up if I'm right)

12025 only applies to handguns.

[yellowfin]

I have in other states (PA, AL, and AZ) but not here. Got a few too many school zones here to know for sure I'd be in the clear for UOC...something tells me the overmind here would ticket/arrest for being in a school zone by an inch or less. Get LOC on the books via Nordyke or whatever you gotta do and I'm in within a second. I may seem irritable and perhaps a tad off kilter to some of you folks but i'm not stupid nor out of bounds. Get it done already so we can get this place turned around back to free world status.

[pullnshoot25]

um i think you could technically unloaded conceal carry a long gun
(someone back me up if I'm right)

You are correct.

[Window_Seat]

I will not until I am guaranteed not to go to jail for a legal activity, and have the proper defense. Hopefully after Nordyke. I am thinking of wearing a nice polo with a 2A embroidered on the pocket at the hearing...:43:

Erik; waiting

[retired]

Nope. Since I have a ccw, I carry that way. The only way I would OC, if I ever did, would be if I lived in a rural area; I'd carry on my property.

Even if it was legal, I would never carry in an urban or suburban area. If others want to, that's fine, but it's not for me.

I also have to consider that if stopped by a leo for OC, I could possibly lose my ccw since it is issued by my former dept. I wouldn't take that chance.

[pullnshoot25]

Nope. Since I have a ccw, I carry that way. The only way I would OC, if I ever did, would be if I lived in a rural area; I'd carry on my property.

Even if it was legal, I would never carry in an urban or suburban area. If others want to, that's fine, but it's not for me.

I also have to consider that if stopped by a leo for OC, I could possibly lose my ccw since it is issued by my former dept. I wouldn't take that chance.

Then dont have your CCW on your person and dont admit to having one! If you UOC, you aren't concealing and therefore shouldn't be compelled to reveal you have one.

Correct me if I am wrong.

[Hanniballs]

Occasionally.

[tmuller]

Occasionally.

Me too. There really needs to be an option between all the time and the piss my pants option.

[five.five-six]

How about a "do not have an appropriate holster yet" option?

that would be under:
e) I am a retard

:p are you married yet?

[JDay]

I OC in places where I can LOC legally.

[emc002]

Around the property all the time. We have a large ranch and lots of varmints and mountain lions that like to much on livestock.

[nobody_special]

Seeing as I work at U.C. Berkeley, my answer is obviously NO.

[CitaDeL]

Then dont have your CCW on your person and dont admit to having one! If you UOC, you aren't concealing and therefore shouldn't be compelled to reveal you have one.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Its possible that a licensee could be detained and it could be discovered that you are a licensee even if you do not disclose your status as a licensee. And its also possible for the issuing agency to take action against you even though you are completely lawful and not exersizing any of the privileges of the license.

[pdq_wizzard]

Nope
I'm not in a position where I could afford a proper defense.

+100
if I had the $$$ I would every day every were.

[pullnshoot25]

Seeing as I work at U.C. Berkeley, my answer is obviously NO.

I feel sorry for you :(

[Meplat]

If the particular gun you are OCing is on your permit it could get sticky. Permit conditions require that the weapon remain concealed.


Then dont have your CCW on your person and dont admit to having one! If you UOC, you aren't concealing and therefore shouldn't be compelled to reveal you have one.

Correct me if I am wrong.

[Meplat]

I OC loaded in rural areas and when I am hunting. I UOC when transporting guns frome place to place and do not worrry about locks. I CC almost all the time as I have a CCW.

[SOneThreeCoupe]

I have open carried.

I don't get out much, and when I do I'm going to work (where my boss would prefer I don't OC) or to school, so I don't get much of a chance. I don't go to the mall and I buy most of what I need online.

I'd prefer to OC where there is a lot of exposure so I can advance the cause. I do go to nearby businesses, but they're all within 1000 feet of the school across the street, so no OC there.

I frequently carry in a locked container, however.

I must admit, though, that I don't carry that often because I'm just not a good shot with a pistol. I cannot in good conscience carry a pistol in public without knowing I can make a shot if I needed to. I will be taking classes to rectify that situation, because I know my stance and my trigger discipline leave a lot to be desired. Until I can afford to take classes, I just dry-fire with a Snap Cap and go to the range to see what works for me.

[D53]

I might be a newb to the board, but damn SOneThreeCoupe that has to be the best honest reason in that I have seen for not wanting to open carry. To all you other guys that dont do it because you dont see the point or have no care for it, nothing against you, but I am just pointing this out because there are a lot of guys out there that dont think of their shooting skills/capabilities especially under stress if the time ever comes. Just my 2c


I must admit, though, that I don't carry that often because I'm just not a good shot with a pistol. I cannot in good conscience carry a pistol in public without knowing I can make a shot if I needed to. I will be taking classes to rectify that situation, because I know my stance and my trigger discipline leave a lot to be desired. Until I can afford to take classes, I just dry-fire with a Snap Cap and go to the range to see what works for me.

[Dr. Evil]

I have in other states (PA, AL, and AZ) but not here. Got a few too many school zones here to know for sure I'd be in the clear for UOC...

This is why I don't OC right now. That and not having an appropriate gun. :P

[Shane916]

I personally find it rather comical to hear of individuals open carrying an unloaded handgun.

[drdanno84]

Why attract attention and risk being detained and or arrested? If you really need a piece for protection, it's far better to conceal it and deal with the legal ramifications later

[Meplat]

Why attract attention and risk being detained and or arrested? If you really need a piece for protection, it's far better to conceal it and deal with the legal ramifications later

+1:eek:

[Glock22Fan]

I personally find it rather comical to hear of individuals open carrying an unloaded handgun.

I find it comical that people think that a gun locked in their safe at home will somehow protect them.

[CitaDeL]

If the particular gun you are OCing is on your permit it could get sticky. Permit conditions require that the weapon remain concealed.

There is nothing in 12050 that indicates that the firearm must be concealed. The license is allowing the privilege of concealing a weapon in spite of 12025. While it is generally assumed a "CCW" is exclusively for concealed carry, there is no statutory requirement to maintain concealment. There is however, a clause that would allow a police chief or sherriff to enact reasonable restrictions on how, where and when a weapon may be carried. Such restrictions, according to 12050, shall be imprinted on the license issued. If restrictions are not imprinted on the license, it would be impossible for agencies other than the issuing agency to know what, if any restrictions exist on the licensee.

I personally find it rather comical to hear of individuals open carrying an unloaded handgun.

I find it rather tragic that good people remain unarmed.

People who depend solely upon the police for their protection, that will not defend themselves or their families are a burden on society in the same way as those who unecessarily draw social program benefits. We expect people to work for a living if they are able and we disapprove of those who collect a check without lifting a finger- Why then, is it that we do not distain those who will not defend themselves in the same way we do with welfare sloths?

Why attract attention and risk being detained and or arrested? If you really need a piece for protection, it's far better to conceal it and deal with the legal ramifications later

You are advocating a violation of the law, which when when caught repeatedly, will likely end your ability to own a gun, let alone carry one. I advocate following the law and being the deterent at the same time. Your illegally concealed weapon has no effect on those who would commit a crime against you or around you. Openly carried arms when noticed, create a no-crime zone where ever carried. It is a visiable sign to criminals that they could be shot if they attempted to employ their criminal intent. I think that kind of attention is what we need to reduce the need for more police, more prisons, and more laws.

[drdanno84]

I'd rather be tried by 12 that carried by 6, we all have a god given right to protect ourselves and our families. The government won't the police can't so
isn't this a no brainer?

[Shotgun Man]

Nice poll. I love the options. I voted naked in my house as I'm sure it has happened.

[Riodog]

The poll needs another option between "yes, all the time" and "yes, once". Yes, sometimes.

I personally find it rather comical to hear of individuals open carrying an unloaded handgun.

Both X2
Rio

[retired]

Then dont have your CCW on your person and dont admit to having one! If you UOC, you aren't concealing and therefore shouldn't be compelled to reveal you have one.

Correct me if I am wrong.

I wasn't real specific as to why I wouldn't carry UOC in suburban/urban areas. For me it would be a safety reason. I know others may differ and I don't begrudge them their desire to carry UOC in those areas. I don't want a bad guy (s) to know I have a weapon. I don't want to be in a area where a bad guy intends to do something with a gun (i.e. rob the store I'm in), notices I am UOC and decides to shoot me before he commits his evil deed.

I don't care if the chances of it occurring are slim or not, that is my choice, so I won't UOC or LC (if permitted) with the possible exception of what I stated in my first post.

Since I will never carry UOC or LOC, there is no reason to not carry my ccw.

[jacques]

In this city, you would be arrested on the spot. I do not wish to be the center of that attraction. If they issued CCW, I do not think I would even do that. I have never been in a situation that would require that.

[Liberty1]

If they issued CCW, I do not think I would even do that. I have never been in a situation that would require that.

I don't think anyone of the 32 at Virginia Tech had either "been in a situation" before that day. :rolleyes: Hey, but it would be your freedom to choose not to carry if only we had that freedom.

[jacques]

I don't think anyone of the 32 at Virginia Tech had either "been in a situation" before that day. :rolleyes: Hey, but it would be your freedom to choose not to carry if only we had that freedom.
Exactly. I always think of open carry like in the old west. Alot of people did. Some didn't. It would be nice to see things at an acceptance level like it was back then.

[teddius]

I'm in the Bay Area, (East Bay) and would like to have an OC event (lunch?). I live in Berkeley. This town is so political and rediculously charged unilaterally. Petitions and flyers are everywhere; I'd love to be out in public having lunch with a bunch of people carrying, with information flyers to hand out to those curious onlookers.

What say you? Are you gonna let a bunch of folks who have gladly given up their rights give yours up as well on account of your fear of offense?

[Merle]

I personally find it rather comical to hear of individuals open carrying an unloaded handgun.

It is a matter of convenience for me. In NV, I carry in a belt holster. When I go to the CA side, I don't need to fight with the holster nor do I think it's "fashionable" to wear an empty holster (ugh, unload the gun, find the bag, place it in the bag, lock the bag).

Drop the loaded mag, replace it with an empty and get my "grande amerciano in a venti cup, extra room basically please" and be on my way. Then back to NV and reverse the process.

[Liberty1]

No round in the chamber in NV? Or you take that out too?

[WeekendWarrior]

I was unable to Vote. You should have a choice available for: No, but only because I live in San Francisco and it is therefor impossible.

[tazmanian devil dog]

Dude, I live in freakin Richmond, CA. Hell no I don't open carry. I'd get shot by the local constabulatory.

[Decoligny]

I was unable to Vote. You should have a choice available for: No, but only because I live in San Francisco and it is therefor impossible.

Probably becuase the thread is 8 1/2 months old.

[strangerdude]

I don't, If I am going to carry a gun I don't want anyone to know I have It. OC Is pointless In my opinion especially when It has too be unloaded.

[cactustactical]

I CCW everyday... I usually wear a T-Shirt untucked and I will pull my shirt up behind the holster now and then and OC as well when I feel like it. Some people who see me on a daily basis will ask "why you have a gun today?" ... My response, "I have a gun everyday, you just don't see it everyday"... They are like uh, ... ok, cool :)

Since I wear mine on me everyday it has become just a part of my daily attire. Once you get comfortable carrying regularly people almost dont notice it. If you just act normally like it's no big deal then people will be a whole lot more accepting :)

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[Decoligny]

I CCW everyday... I usually wear a T-Shirt untucked and I will pull my shirt up behind the holster now and then and OC as well when I feel like it. Some people who see me on a daily basis will ask "why you have a gun today?" ... My response, "I have a gun everyday, you just don't see it everyday"... They are like uh, ... ok, cool :)

Since I wear mine on me everyday it has become just a part of my daily attire. Once you get comfortable carrying regularly people almost dont notice it. If you just act normally like it's no big deal then people will be a whole lot more accepting :)

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If you have a CCW, and you open carry by pulling your shirt up over your gun, and your gun is loaded, it that legal? Wouldn't it violate the stipulation (not law) in the CCW application not to "unjustifiably display a concealed weapon" and risk having the Sheriff revoke your CCW?

[rystad]

If you have a CCW, and you open carry by pulling your shirt up over your gun, and your gun is loaded, it that legal? Wouldn't it violate the stipulation (not law) in the CCW application not to "unjustifiably display a concealed weapon" and risk having the Sheriff revoke your CCW?

yes it would, your local issuing ccw authority could pull your ccw! Even with UOC and having a CCW would technically violate your CCW conditions! I've heard from some ADA's in nor cal that they would pressure for the pull of CCW's who UOC! Now how far will they go no clue! Lots of threats and hoopla all the time living in Cali!!