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windsheer
11-17-2008, 10:28 AM
Of the few old rifles that I own the one I like the most is my swiss k31. I did use the search and it was too much info , so here I go . Does anyone have a scope mount that the really like and would recomend . I did meet a guy at the Del Mar gun show who was making an aluminium mount. He was from Ohio ,but I lost is card. I would prefer steel.

4 Brigada
11-17-2008, 10:40 AM
If you dont have any luck, try Graf & Son they have a aluminium clamp on but they only have 5 in stock, for about 70 bucks

Dr. Peter Venkman
11-17-2008, 10:45 AM
Of the few old rifles that I own the one I like the most is my swiss k31. I did use the search and it was too much info , so here I go . Does anyone have a scope mount that the really like and would recomend . I did meet a guy at the Del Mar gun show who was making an aluminium mount. He was from Ohio ,but I lost is card. I would prefer steel.

I use the full-size, steel clamp-on accumount for my K31. I took it to the range yesterday and it held zero very well; it let me know I have a horrible trigger jerk.

It's $70:

http://www.accumounts.com/

.454
11-17-2008, 10:46 AM
Of the few old rifles that I own the one I like the most is my swiss k31. I did use the search and it was too much info , so here I go . Does anyone have a scope mount that the really like and would recomend . I did meet a guy at the Del Mar gun show who was making an aluminium mount. He was from Ohio ,but I lost is card. I would prefer steel.

Brownells used to have the steel ones but not anymore. They have the same mount made of aluminum for $66 here (http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=25696&title=SCHMIDT-RUBIN%20K31%20SCOPE%20BASE).
I have one just like that and it is rock solid, it went through more than 500 rounds and it keeps the zero no problem.

Updated: I was wrong, they still have the steel mounts for $115 here (http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=1666&title=SWISS%20PRODUCTS%20SCHMIDT-RUBIN%20K31%20SCOPE%20MOUNT).
My opinion? Not worth the price difference. The aluminum one is just as solid and much lighter.

windsheer
11-17-2008, 4:53 PM
Thanks guys hands on recommendations are the BEST

caldude
11-17-2008, 5:12 PM
This is the one I'm using, also available at Brownells(~$65): http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=1666&title=SWISS%20PRODUCTS%20SCHMIDT-RUBIN%20K31%20SCOPE%20MOUNT
The only issue I have with it is that ejected brass bounces off the scope and back into the receiver. I find I have to tip the rifle to the left when working the bolt to make sure the brass comes out.
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg229/caldudejr/Pb020155.jpg

bplvr
11-17-2008, 8:01 PM
I have [2] K-31's with the aluminum mounts and K4 Weaver scopes .
The best addition to one of them was the clamp on compensator.
If you want to challenge yourself ,try the mojo open sights w/the compensator.
At 500 yards gophers will fear you and your chick. Make them beg to die.

Pthfndr
11-17-2008, 8:32 PM
Mine

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/Pthfndr/Curios%20and%20Relics/K31%20VPS/CTRS002r.jpg

harmoniums
11-19-2008, 3:03 PM
Where do you get those clamp on compensators?

user5412
11-19-2008, 3:41 PM
Graf's had them.

djbooya
11-19-2008, 4:05 PM
Does anyone sell time period correct mounts/scopes for the K31?

NRAhighpowershooter
11-19-2008, 4:21 PM
Does anyone sell time period correct mounts/scopes for the K31?

www.swissrifles.com

Pthfndr
11-19-2008, 7:14 PM
Does anyone sell time period correct mounts/scopes for the K31?

The K31 itself was never issued with a scope. They were known as K31/xx variants, and ZKF 55. The sniper variant uses a different stock and a left side mounted scope. The scopes were different through the years.

You can see pics of the various ones at the Swissrifles website here:

http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/topic/1803

JesseXXX
11-19-2008, 7:32 PM
Link to that muzzle-brake please :)

chickenfried
11-19-2008, 7:38 PM
threaded http://www.grafs.com/product/200112
clamp on http://www.grafs.com/product/200101

mwarren2
11-20-2008, 1:04 PM
Here's my K31 with the St.Marie-Swiss Products ( http://www.swissproductsllc.com/ ) clamp on steel mount. Also had Cechmauseritis (Pete Ogden @ Swiss Rifles Message Board) make me a sweet cheek pad. Nothing permanent. :D

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p247/mwarren260/Gun%20Collection/Swiss%20K31/cd696e3e.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p247/mwarren260/Gun%20Collection/Swiss%20K31/K31Scoped3.jpg

Spiggy
11-20-2008, 1:09 PM
what size optic are you using there?:confused:

sb_pete
11-20-2008, 1:53 PM
The K31 itself was never issued with a scope. They were known as K31/xx variants, and ZKF 55. The sniper variant uses a different stock and a left side mounted scope. The scopes were different through the years.

You can see pics of the various ones at the Swissrifles website here:

http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/topic/1803

Wow, those are some seriously funky looking scopes. Those are periscope type optics in the first four K31/42-3 variants, right? Any idea what the the dia. of the scope bodies is on those things (14mm?)?

Also, can a ZfK55 scope mount be fitted onto a regular K31? I would imagine you would need to cut the stock and drill & tap, but is that it or is the receiver machined differently or something like that?

They are expensive and out of stock, but it appears that somebody is making period correct ZfK55 scope mounts with a std Weaver rail (http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=24322&title=ZFK55%20PRECISION%20SCOPE%20MOUNT). The ZfK55 mount seems to be a very fast QD type system from the looks of it.

sb_pete
11-20-2008, 2:55 PM
Here's my K31 with the St.Marie-Swiss Products ( http://www.swissproductsllc.com/ ) clamp on steel mount. Also had Cechmauseritis (Pete Ogden @ Swiss Rifles Message Board) make me a sweet cheek pad. Nothing permanent. :D

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p247/mwarren260/Gun%20Collection/Swiss%20K31/cd696e3e.jpg

Wow, that's a really nice piece man. We need more pics, and some targets. How does that beauty shoot?

How much do you think he would he charge to make another cheek piece like that? (maybe with a different design if that's a one off, but just because it looks so comfortable, utilitarian, and correct on the rifle).

On another note, I was looking through that site and found this guy's website. (http://home.worldcom.ch/intruder/BlackHole.htm) I guess his handle is Intruder, looks like an older Swiss gentleman with a bunch of really nice rifles, but also a willingness (and $$ability$$) to really play around with K31s. His site is all in French, but you can just click on the various links to his rifles. There are so many pics, you really don't need to read about it anyways. I am going to put a few of them up here just because it can be hard to navigate a website in another language, but I really recommend looking through his site for cool ideas about stuff to do with K31s.

He has things like this "old style sniper"
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo251/sb_pete/K31OLDSniper_01.jpg

Or this one using a Comblock POSP optic:
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo251/sb_pete/K31Zaitsev04.jpg

Here is another in which he put a sweet target diopter setup in:
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo251/sb_pete/K31diopter.jpg

**(the above pics are, again, from "Intruder"'s website (http://home.worldcom.ch/intruder/BlackHole.htm). I put them into my photobucket to avoid hotlinking, but the images are his and are only reproduced for reference within the confines of fair use)**

sb_pete
11-20-2008, 2:56 PM
He also had a few which had ruined stocks, so he went full bore and turned them into modern style sniper rifles (he seems to really like the gray pattern):
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo251/sb_pete/K31Mod01-2.jpg
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo251/sb_pete/K31Mod02.jpg
It actually looks like he has three different versions of this one, or at least a few different stocks.

Another one even looks to have been a beat up ZfK55 (or at least has ZfK55 scope mounts put in) with a stock he talks about trying to save and eventually just giving up and painting. It has a crazy period correct muzzle-brake/flash-hider. He also fabricated a 12 round magazine from a pair of 6 rounders (although he says it only works right with 9 rounds or less).
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo251/sb_pete/K31-ZF55KAR_06.jpg
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo251/sb_pete/K31-ZF55KAR_09.jpg


**(the above pics are, again, from "Intruder"'s website (http://home.worldcom.ch/intruder/BlackHole.htm). I put them into my photobucket to avoid hotlinking, but the images are his and are only reproduced for reference within the confines of fair use)**

mwarren2
11-21-2008, 10:24 AM
what size optic are you using there?:confused:

The telescope is a Nikon ProStaff 32mm variable on low rings.

mwarren2
11-21-2008, 10:29 AM
Wow, that's a really nice piece man. We need more pics, and some targets. How does that beauty shoot?

How much do you think he would he charge to make another cheek piece like that? (maybe with a different design if that's a one off, but just because it looks so comfortable, utilitarian, and correct on the rifle).

See here for more info on the cheek piece: http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/topic/3818
You can contact Pete here: czechmauseritis@mindspring.com

smle-man
11-21-2008, 7:46 PM
Here is the St. Marie mount on my 1943 K31 with a repro Enfield T cheek rest.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff237/smle-man/k31scoperight.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff237/smle-man/k31scopeleft.jpg