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TheGaut
01-16-2017, 6:39 PM
How to optimally use 2 Dillon XL650...

I currently run one for case prep and one for reloading... seems to work efficiently.

suggestions?


:)

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah279/alex49/2017-01-16%2017.53.37_zpsw6yf7nfx.jpg~original

kriller134
01-16-2017, 6:46 PM
Damn that's a nice setup. I'm jealous.

RogerOrange
01-16-2017, 8:11 PM
Very nice, more light perhaps?

Dragginpanda
01-16-2017, 8:40 PM
Nice Christmas presents.

67Cuda
01-16-2017, 8:51 PM
Your not married, right?

xMAC1x
01-16-2017, 8:56 PM
Wow very nice.

steel30
01-16-2017, 9:14 PM
Your not married, right?

LoL!

.45heat
01-16-2017, 9:17 PM
Nice Setup!!

Whiterabbit
01-16-2017, 9:41 PM
how to efficiently use?

One set up for small primer, one for large. The one with the case feeder is small primer and used for case prep and pistol and 223. the other one is used for large rifle. It eventually gets a case feeder for large pistol.

prep is really dominated by the universal decap. Not much else to do. trim die I guess

next step after that is to get bullet feed equipment up.

MarikinaMan
01-17-2017, 2:44 AM
For case prep, do a pre-wash of the cases in a rotary tumbler with no steel pins, dry, then run them through a tool head that resizes, deprimes, swages and trims.

Depending on the quality of the trimmer, you can go straight to a wet tumble and dry the cases before the reload step.

If the trimmer doesnt deburr and chamfer, you'll need to do that before the wet tumbling process.

csshih
01-17-2017, 3:27 AM
Why no steel pins? What should I use as an alternative?

TheGaut
01-17-2017, 3:09 PM
how to efficiently use?

One set up for small primer, one for large. The one with the case feeder is small primer and used for case prep and pistol and 223. the other one is used for large rifle. It eventually gets a case feeder for large pistol.

prep is really dominated by the universal decap. Not much else to do. trim die I guess

next step after that is to get bullet feed equipment up.

Thanks dude, that makes the most sense. Swapping primer disk is by far the most time consuming swap. Rest is easy.

To trim, I use that "lil Badger" adapter with a Bosh router and milling bit, all mounted on a Dillon trimming die.

LOL and yea smart dude I'm married.. work from home and don't sleep a lot. It's my excuse to hang in the garage while drinking myself to death.


I've been reloading for a few years now and cleaning is where I feel you need to do it at scale. I use 3.5 cu/ft cement mixer with steel pins, dish soap, lemishine and call it a day. The mixer makes it easy to do large batches and rinse without buckets

Once the brass is fully processed, I throw it in the dry media vibrating with polishing liquid. Gives a brand new look. Pistol rounds I usually throw live rounds in the vibrating bowl. "but what if a round goes off"... no way and if it does, better in the cleaning shed than in my face.

Whiterabbit
01-17-2017, 3:25 PM
LOL and yea smart dude I'm married.. work from home and don't sleep a lot. It's my excuse to hang in the garage while drinking myself to death.


We have a lot in common. I like your style.

OK, so I have to ask you now. Do you have a pic of your trim setup? I want to see how you mounted a router to a die.

And I've mused for a long time about stainless pins run in an an angled bin, interested in hearing how it's working for you. Specifically, how noisy is it? Would you be OK with working in the same space your tumbler is running, could you hear the radio, etc?

bigdawg86
01-17-2017, 3:41 PM
I wish I could get a 1050 just for brass prep... Decapping, swage, size, trim, all on one press. I'd give my left nut to have a 1050 for prep and 650 for loading.

Whiterabbit
01-17-2017, 3:45 PM
I bet a lee loadmaster could be made to work, if you could make a special plug for swaging.

MrElectric03
01-17-2017, 5:39 PM
I'll find out soon. Even though I really didn't need it I found a xl650 frame, basically everything but casefeeder, conversions powder measure and primer feed for $200 and couldn't resist. I had the same though on keeping one for Case prep and one for loading, switching primers is easy.

XDJYo
01-17-2017, 5:55 PM
Nice set up! As one of the other posters mentioned, you may want to look into a bit more lighting. I just got the LED lights from Ebay. Nice little set up.

Just make sure the center hole in the toolhead is perfectly round and even. Mine isn't and so the light doesn't fit all the way inside. No worry though, it goes in far enough to stay put and throws enough light. It's a much better option than my Fenix E11 that doesn't quite fit in the hole and keeps falling out.

71MUSTY
01-17-2017, 5:58 PM
Your not married, right?

Wife told me if I clean the garage and get rid of my three Muscle cars I can have a set up like that.

67Cuda
01-17-2017, 9:00 PM
Wife told me if I clean the garage and get rid of my three Muscle cars I can have a set up like that.

Only get rid of the ones that aren't Mopars. :)

TheGaut
01-18-2017, 1:26 PM
We have a lot in common. I like your style.

OK, so I have to ask you now. Do you have a pic of your trim setup? I want to see how you mounted a router to a die.

And I've mused for a long time about stainless pins run in an an angled bin, interested in hearing how it's working for you. Specifically, how noisy is it? Would you be OK with working in the same space your tumbler is running, could you hear the radio, etc?

Got the adapter from "Fast and Friendly Brass". Good guys, very helpful. They detail all the parts you need
http://fastandfriendlybrass.com/shop/item.aspx/honey-badger-trimmer-adapter/34/

So the adapter looks like this, screws on your router and on the trimming die:

http://fastandfriendlybrass.com/images/trimmer_adapter_1.JPG


Mounted on the press:

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah279/alex49/gunstuff/2017-01-17%2014.58.54_zpsfvuhufnr.jpg~original


Never really had issues with steel pins getting stuck in cases. I used a cheap Franklin Armory media separator and put a small magnet with the brass. Works great.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah279/alex49/gunstuff/2017-01-17%2014.57.30_zpsvdc6knis.jpg~original

MarikinaMan
01-18-2017, 9:03 PM
Why no steel pins? What should I use as an alternative?

You wanna do a prewash with soap and water to clean the cases enough to run throught the resizing die. Eschewing the steel simplifies this step, which only takes 15 minutes.

Then after resizing and trimiming, you will now tumble the cases in water, soap, and pins to polish and clean the primer pockets. This will take 1.5 hours.

Whiterabbit
01-18-2017, 9:49 PM
how noisy is the tumbler?

liber
01-18-2017, 11:04 PM
Thanks dude, that makes the most sense. Swapping primer disk is by far the most time consuming swap. Rest is easy.

That's the way I would use them also. I have a 650, and it's easy enough to have a separate tool head for case prep, as you only need to decap and size. The case feeder is what makes it so useful for case preparation.

You'll definitely want to get a 2nd case feeder.

I have 2 primer setups and just swap out the entire primer system, it's only 2 screws, but if you didn't have to worry about that, it would be that much nicer.

mindwreck
01-18-2017, 11:32 PM
Nice setup. I wish my bench was that clean..

I have my 2 650s set up just like yours. I swap between calibers on each machine. one does 45/223 other does 9/357/44. I have a toolhead with just a universal decap that i put in either machine(i deprime then wet tumble) and another for case prep for 223.

since both machines run different calibers i set them up so they both have all the bells and whistles.


https://s23.postimg.org/o86g0lrpn/IMAG0059.jpg

TheGaut
01-19-2017, 10:47 AM
Nice setup.

NYT
01-19-2017, 10:56 AM
nice and exactly what i have been thinking of. did you shop around for the 650s or buy from a local shop?

TheGaut
01-22-2017, 6:55 PM
nice and exactly what i have been thinking of. did you shop around for the 650s or buy from a local shop?

I got it directly from Dillon. I was actually at their store in Phoenix when I bought the first one. Really nice people.

They gave me a good discount when I bought the second one. An they're not joking about lifetime warranty. I broke an indexer ring, ordered another one (and paid for it). Then got an email that it was under warranty and that the charges were reversed. Good people.